INTERVIEW FOR CSE 2019
All ForumIAS members selected for CSE 2019 Personality Test must submit their details and DAF and register below to receive further instructions and guidance from ForumIAS. Click here to register now
INTERVIEW 2020 CHANNEL
ForumIAS Channel for Interview Preparation is now Active! Please join the channel by clicking here
We are hiring!

Lateral Entry to the post of Join Secratory

18911131416

Comments

  • Those who are clamoring against this move have forgotten how the judiciary in our country is appointed. We dont have an Indian Judicial Service (not yet), so you just need some experience of 5-7 years as an advocate to get appointed as a district judge which then will give you a ticket for further promotions. The irony is, no one is questioning this established system of appointing private/independent judges from a pool of advocates. This system is still functioning properly.

    Secondly, those who are saying that the government wants to appoint yes men are overlooking the fact that there are plenty yes men in the services itself. You dont need to look outside for yes men ( sad state of affairs). You will find in plenty within the system.

    Talent however, can be from anywhere (and not just from within). Years for working with a set mindset is bound to being in complacency and red tapism. Plus, there is bureaucratic lethargy. People from the outside will bring in new sets of ideas. Plus they would be free from chains as they know they can get back to the private sector, if fired. They can be upright and call a spade, a spade without any fear of prosecution.


    PS:- I believe many would start praising this move, once they are out of the 6/32 theorem.
    2 wrongs doesn't make it right.
    If something wrong is happening already it doesn't give one permit to do wrong again.

  • funny thing is there's a scheme by the name of sameep that aims to encourage students to take up diplomacy as a career but when you look at the vacancies lol lol
    same is the case with this lateral thing
    that is a holiday scheme for ifs officers, nothing more.
  • everyone giving faltu ka gyaan here. lateral entry good or bad is another topic. main issue is motive of the govt. gujarat model is in full play. what these two professional criminals did in gujarat is for all too see. apart from riots, fake encounters etc natural resources at throwaway prices given to ad*ni, am*ani etc. many gujarat bureaucrats of his tenure are now board members of above companies. gross labour rights violation happened. now he wants the same at national level. he will make a reliance official as joint secretary in petroleum ministry and cry out vikas, vikas. he is nothing but a corporate pimp. institutions have long history of being politicised but present case is like never before. couple of years back a gujarat cadre ips was appointed as director of cbi. he is arguably the most corrupt ips of gujrat. after hue and cry he was removed. same is the case with other officers in cbi, other institutions. if you care about reforms what about police reforms, bureaucracy reforms ordered by supreme Court? why these are not being implemented? situation was already bad and this semi literate criminal has made things far worse
  • I read many of the comments on this thread. Almost all of them are criticizing the move. Right at the outset, I'll say that I respect the opinions stated in all the comments above.

    I think there are too many cinephiles on this Forum but not many sportsmen.
    Let's take badminton. In every second of the game you have to improvise. Every damn opponent is different and brings in a new set of skills and shrewdness. You can't throw in the racket and say this is wrong, I'll play only by my style.

    I've seen people in aspirant community cribbing about almost every damn thing and especially every change the government brings in. In my opinion, some 10 lateral entries at JS level aren't going to bring down the whole edifice of IAS fraternity which is around 5000 officers strong.
    And maybe it will even bring in some old time aspirants into bureaucracy who tried and failed during their time as aspirant and moved on to next best things.

    I'm not at all defending the government. I'm just asking people to keep an open mind.
    The only constant thing is change. It's we who ultimately have to adapt. And those who adapt, survive and succeed. Just like in a game of badminton.

    there is something called wildcard entry in badminton tournament. Lin Dan has been introduced in many tournaments in this way, often winning most of these. A single entry among 1000s of participants changing the end result. Moreover, the choice to introduce him is made by sponsors, based on their economic interests; not specifically to improve the game.

    Now, the finals did improve sometimes due to this; giving us many Lin Dan vs Lee Chong Wei matches. But administration of a country is way different, stakes are much higher and so are the vested interests. Also the scope for the "talented" is much wider; instead of getting Lin Dan for badminton we might get Vijay Malya for bureaucracy.

    No one is opposing lateral entry in totality.It's the context ,the background in which it is introduced and perhaps self interest to some extent that makes most of us senile folks question the move.
  • everyone giving faltu ka gyaan here. lateral entry good or bad is another topic. main issue is motive of the govt. gujarat model is in full play. what these two professional criminals did in gujarat is for all too see. apart from riots, fake encounters etc natural resources at throwaway prices given to ad*ni, am*ani etc. many gujarat bureaucrats of his tenure are now board members of above companies. gross labour rights violation happened. now he wants the same at national level. he will make a reliance official as joint secretary in petroleum ministry and cry out vikas, vikas. he is nothing but a corporate pimp. institutions have long history of being politicised but present case is like never before. couple of years back a gujarat cadre ips was appointed as director of cbi. he is arguably the most corrupt ips of gujrat. after hue and cry he was removed. same is the case with other officers in cbi, other institutions. if you care about reforms what about police reforms, bureaucracy reforms ordered by supreme Court? why these are not being implemented? situation was already bad and this semi literate criminal has made things far worse
    +1 Satya vachan
  • Its not a surprise- it was coming- and yes this soon too - why to wait when u know there is no opposition.
    Its can be best described as spoilt system if USA but as this is India - it ll be more spoilt than US one - as here accountability and transparency is in negative.
    Right now BJP is in power - so RSS/Ambani ideology will rule d selection later UPA will come they ll do the same - returning back favors.
    We Indians have actually become very tolerant - I must say - so we turn a blind eye to most obvious repercussion of this move - death of objectivity and merit.
    PMO FC policy is just a part of this larger game - which we very smartly ignore bcoz UPSC preparation has hard wired our brain to think only +ve abt Govt decision - Govt can do NO wrong.
    One more thing - vacancies for IAS will reduce next year- see for ur self.
    Also - this move may not promote PCS officer's to IAS - Modi want DM of 27 years of age.
    Keep working hard - and also make a backup plan- CAT will be best - future is bleak here.
    350 mein 10 log lateral se hi aa gaye to kya ho jayega aisa? Aise bhi ias to 250 hi hain usme. Ideology to congres bjp sabki rahegi while they make appointments. 10 seats won't harm you or me that too at JS level. Prepare and don't don't scare :)
    that's what germans said when attacks against jews started in nazi germany : ehh!! only 50 jews got imprisoned that's not huge, look there are still like 60k out there.
    and we all know what happened after that :love:
    Comparing lateral entry in civil service to the Holocaust! Bahut acche officer banenge ye log
    zv hahahahaha
  • everyone giving faltu ka gyaan here. lateral entry good or bad is another topic. main issue is motive of the govt. gujarat model is in full play. what these two professional criminals did in gujarat is for all too see. apart from riots, fake encounters etc natural resources at throwaway prices given to ad*ni, am*ani etc. many gujarat bureaucrats of his tenure are now board members of above companies. gross labour rights violation happened. now he wants the same at national level. he will make a reliance official as joint secretary in petroleum ministry and cry out vikas, vikas. he is nothing but a corporate pimp. institutions have long history of being politicised but present case is like never before. couple of years back a gujarat cadre ips was appointed as director of cbi. he is arguably the most corrupt ips of gujrat. after hue and cry he was removed. same is the case with other officers in cbi, other institutions. if you care about reforms what about police reforms, bureaucracy reforms ordered by supreme Court? why these are not being implemented? situation was already bad and this semi literate criminal has made things far worse
    Joint secretaries in the petroleum ministry have joined Relian** and its affiliated think tanks quite liberally. You may look up names. Pimps are already ensconsed in the IAS. Let's have some talented pimps now, shall we! Even so, let us all focus on the exam, and, if one wishes, one can choose to not skill oneself in hope that career babus will rule the roost.
  • everyone giving faltu ka gyaan here. lateral entry good or bad is another topic. main issue is motive of the govt. gujarat model is in full play. what these two professional criminals did in gujarat is for all too see. apart from riots, fake encounters etc natural resources at throwaway prices given to ad*ni, am*ani etc. many gujarat bureaucrats of his tenure are now board members of above companies. gross labour rights violation happened. now he wants the same at national level. he will make a reliance official as joint secretary in petroleum ministry and cry out vikas, vikas. he is nothing but a corporate pimp. institutions have long history of being politicised but present case is like never before. couple of years back a gujarat cadre ips was appointed as director of cbi. he is arguably the most corrupt ips of gujrat. after hue and cry he was removed. same is the case with other officers in cbi, other institutions. if you care about reforms what about police reforms, bureaucracy reforms ordered by supreme Court? why these are not being implemented? situation was already bad and this semi literate criminal has made things far worse
    To a commie sycophant like you, everyone or rather everything would seem like a conspiracy theory. Can you substantiate your allegations? Do you know you can be tried for spreading such false allegations against someone who is holding a constitutional post for defamation?
Sign In or Join to comment.

Welcome!

We are a secret self-moderated community for Civil Services preparation. Feel free to join, start a discussion, answer a question or just to say Thank you.

Just dont spread the word ;)

Sign in or join with Facebook or Google