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This move, coupled with the policy on consideration of FC marks for generating the final list may not be the panacea, but is a perfect start to purge the complacent in the services. Just because someone cracked some exam in his youth, does not give him a license to wreak havoc in the system for the next 30 years. All those who are against this move, I would say are against genuine hard work. In todays day and age, its an established fact that you need to constantly push boundaries and if you think that by just cracking some exam, you will become holier than thou, you are mistaken.You need to constantly work on your skillsets. People, like technology, get obsolete when they dont upgrade themselves each day. Everyone is expendable. No one is permanent. Hiring talent from outside is not a sin. And if one is good enough, he surely will get promotions. Bureaucracy should be purely based on merit be it from outside, or within the system.
Just my 2 cents.
what you call complacency is an outcome of working the civil servant like a shoe scraper. A civil servant is expected not only to gain expertise in policy formulation but also to act as a point of reference for all administrative, criminal, social problems during his initial years of services. Not only this, he is also expected to make arrangements for visiting dignitaries,ministers, politicians and so on. He also has to devote a portion of his time for all kind of redundant work like signing caste certificates, and other file work. Inspite of this , the civil servants have served this country good and well. There have been a few rotten apples but to throw the baby out with the bathwater is sheer stupidity. If like his peers in pvt sector CS had also been relieved of these trivial duties and given full autonomy to gain expertise, i dont see how the civil servants ,many of whom represent the cream of this country, couldn't better,or even surpass, what these so called elite people with boots and ties are capable of. It's easy to say that the bureaucracy has become an epitome of corruption and incompetence , but it's hard to acknowledge how even after being overworked our bureaucrats are able to preserve their vitality and innovation and deliver on key issues. If govt really is serious about reforming the system it should begin with separating day to day routine work from policy formulation. These seemingly cosmetic touches are nothing but a facade for hiring yes man , and nothing else. And for the merit argument in privte sector, india's corporate board nepotism is not a hidden secret. We all know how the same families and their kith and kins keep heading key positions for years.
Those who are clamoring against this move have forgotten how the judiciary in our country is appointed. We dont have an Indian Judicial Service (not yet), so you just need some experience of 5-7 years as an advocate to get appointed as a district judge which then will give you a ticket for further promotions. The irony is, no one is questioning this established system of appointing private/independent judges from a pool of advocates. This system is still functioning properly.
Secondly, those who are saying that the government wants to appoint yes men are overlooking the fact that there are plenty yes men in the services itself. You dont need to look outside for yes men ( sad state of affairs). You will find in plenty within the system.
Talent however, can be from anywhere (and not just from within). Years for working with a set mindset is bound to being in complacency and red tapism. Plus, there is bureaucratic lethargy. People from the outside will bring in new sets of ideas. Plus they would be free from chains as they know they can get back to the private sector, if fired. They can be upright and call a spade, a spade without any fear of prosecution.
PS:- I believe many would start praising this move, once they are out of the 6/32 theorem.
I urge you people to read about Mr Shailesh Pathak. I have been following him for quite some time now. He is an ex civil servant. Do read about his views and accomplishments post quitting the service precisely due to this bureaucratic lethargy.
• One studies hard and scores rank in top 50 in civil services. But he will not be sure what service he will get and what cadre! • Then he works to straighten the system but he will not be sure of any protection from political vendetta, or onslaught of “monitoring agencies”. • Then he works hard in service and earns outstanding ACRs. But he will not be sure if he will get empaneled. • Then somehow he does get empaneled. But he will not be sure if he will be posted at place of his interest.
So it can be suggested to the new civil services aspirants: -Save 3-4 years of wasting on civil services preparation -Pursue an area of your interest -Earn with no bindings and fear of the the 4 C’s- CBI, CVO, Courts and Conduct Rules -Earn enough to afford everything before you reach 40 -Apply for lateral entry. Get Government role. Oblige your industry and NGO friends. Learn secrets of the Government policy making. Work for 5-10 years. - Go back to your well wishers and friends. Be on their board and advisory bodies and live happily forever.
"Secondly, those who are saying that the government wants to appoint yes men are overlooking the fact that there are plenty yes men in the services itself. You dont need to look outside for yes men ( sad state of affairs). You will find in plenty within the system. " If they weren't yes men, they wouldn't be able to join politics and become ministers. Both parties have plenty of such people
I read many of the comments on this thread. Almost all of them are criticizing the move. Right at the outset, I'll say that I respect the opinions stated in all the comments above.
I think there are too many cinephiles on this Forum but not many sportsmen. Let's take badminton. In every second of the game you have to improvise. Every damn opponent is different and brings in a new set of skills and shrewdness. You can't throw in the racket and say this is wrong, I'll play only by my style.
I've seen people in aspirant community cribbing about almost every damn thing and especially every change the government brings in. In my opinion, some 10 lateral entries at JS level aren't going to bring down the whole edifice of IAS fraternity which is around 5000 officers strong. And maybe it will even bring in some old time aspirants into bureaucracy who tried and failed during their time as aspirant and moved on to next best things.
I'm not at all defending the government. I'm just asking people to keep an open mind. The only constant thing is change. It's we who ultimately have to adapt. And those who adapt, survive and succeed. Just like in a game of badminton.
I read many of the comments on this thread. Almost all of them are criticizing the move. Right at the outset, I'll say that I respect the opinions stated in all the comments above.
I think there are too many cinephiles on this Forum but not many sportsmen. Let's take badminton. In every second of the game you have to improvise. Every damn opponent is different and brings in a new set of skills and shrewdness. You can't throw in the racket and say this is wrong, I'll play only by my style.
I've seen people in aspirant community cribbing about almost every damn thing and especially every change the government brings in. In my opinion, some 10 lateral entries at JS level aren't going to bring down the whole edifice of IAS fraternity which is around 5000 officers strong. And maybe it will even bring in some old time aspirants into bureaucracy who tried and failed during their time as aspirant and moved on to next best things.
I'm not at all defending the government. I'm just asking people to keep an open mind. The only constant thing is change. It's we who ultimately have to adapt. And those who adapt, survive and succeed. Just like in a game of badminton.
+1
You cant be so resistant to change even before joining the government. These concepts are not just for paper 4.
funny thing is there's a scheme by the name of sameep that aims to encourage students to take up diplomacy as a career but when you look at the vacancies lol lol same is the case with this lateral thing
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Inspite of this , the civil servants have served this country good and well. There have been a few rotten apples but to throw the baby out with the bathwater is sheer stupidity. If like his peers in pvt sector CS had also been relieved of these trivial duties and given full autonomy to gain expertise, i dont see how the civil servants ,many of whom represent the cream of this country, couldn't better,or even surpass, what these so called elite people with boots and ties are capable of.
It's easy to say that the bureaucracy has become an epitome of corruption and incompetence , but it's hard to acknowledge how even after being overworked our bureaucrats are able to preserve their vitality and innovation and deliver on key issues. If govt really is serious about reforming the system it should begin with separating day to day routine work from policy formulation.
These seemingly cosmetic touches are nothing but a facade for hiring yes man , and nothing else. And for the merit argument in privte sector, india's corporate board nepotism is not a hidden secret. We all know how the same families and their kith and kins keep heading key positions for years.
Secondly, those who are saying that the government wants to appoint yes men are overlooking the fact that there are plenty yes men in the services itself. You dont need to look outside for yes men ( sad state of affairs). You will find in plenty within the system.
Talent however, can be from anywhere (and not just from within). Years for working with a set mindset is bound to being in complacency and red tapism. Plus, there is bureaucratic lethargy. People from the outside will bring in new sets of ideas. Plus they would be free from chains as they know they can get back to the private sector, if fired. They can be upright and call a spade, a spade without any fear of prosecution.
PS:- I believe many would start praising this move, once they are out of the 6/32 theorem.
• Then he works to straighten the system but he will not be sure of any protection from political vendetta, or onslaught of “monitoring agencies”.
• Then he works hard in service and earns outstanding ACRs. But he will not be sure if he will get empaneled.
• Then somehow he does get empaneled. But he will not be sure if he will be posted at place of his interest.
So it can be suggested to the new civil services aspirants:
-Save 3-4 years of wasting on civil services preparation
-Pursue an area of your interest
-Earn with no bindings and fear of the the 4 C’s- CBI, CVO, Courts and Conduct Rules
-Earn enough to afford everything before you reach 40
-Apply for lateral entry. Get Government role. Oblige your industry and NGO friends. Learn secrets of the Government policy making. Work for 5-10 years.
- Go back to your well wishers and friends. Be on their board and advisory bodies and live happily forever.
If they weren't yes men, they wouldn't be able to join politics and become ministers. Both parties have plenty of such people
I think there are too many cinephiles on this Forum but not many sportsmen.
Let's take badminton. In every second of the game you have to improvise. Every damn opponent is different and brings in a new set of skills and shrewdness. You can't throw in the racket and say this is wrong, I'll play only by my style.
I've seen people in aspirant community cribbing about almost every damn thing and especially every change the government brings in. In my opinion, some 10 lateral entries at JS level aren't going to bring down the whole edifice of IAS fraternity which is around 5000 officers strong.
And maybe it will even bring in some old time aspirants into bureaucracy who tried and failed during their time as aspirant and moved on to next best things.
I'm not at all defending the government. I'm just asking people to keep an open mind.
The only constant thing is change. It's we who ultimately have to adapt. And those who adapt, survive and succeed. Just like in a game of badminton.
You cant be so resistant to change even before joining the government. These concepts are not just for paper 4.
funny thing is there's a scheme by the name of sameep that aims to encourage students to take up diplomacy as a career but when you look at the vacancies lol lol
same is the case with this lateral thing