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The golden Myth : Private Sector is much more competent and Public Sector Sucks!!. I challenge private sector to sail through our political crass and then also think about doing good for society. Public Sector especially bureaucrats( not all of them) at least are imbibed with some values that make them answerable to society, what's the notion that tie a private sector hire? Expertise from private sector could always be hired as advisers etc, but instead of that they are being ADJUSTED in the system. Also this is long cherished dream of many organisation to weaken this steel frame:
1. Spurt of articles and specialized reports whenever they want to change Civils pattern and question their credibility
2. Now these private hire will come in the system as being famously mouthed these days by media "WITHOUT UPSC". and i bet you end up being frustrated unless they are being given special veto. Thus weakening steel frame further.
3. Who will guarantee their allegiance?Will they think of greater good or more run it like corporate?
4. Who's stopping government to start appointing various ministers in accordance to their expertise for starters? Aren't they the one with vision ?
I think it shall be interesting to see dynamics of these new private hire and old bureaucracy.
P.S : Not against any kind of reforms in bureaucracy , and it's widely conclusive that their is a need for reforms. But lateral entry in this way might not be best solution for civil services.
everyone giving faltu ka gyaan here. lateral entry good or bad is another topic. main issue is motive of the govt. gujarat model is in full play. what these two professional criminals did in gujarat is for all too see. apart from riots, fake encounters etc natural resources at throwaway prices given to ad*ni, am*ani etc. many gujarat bureaucrats of his tenure are now board members of above companies. gross labour rights violation happened. now he wants the same at national level. he will make a reliance official as joint secretary in petroleum ministry and cry out vikas, vikas. he is nothing but a corporate pimp. institutions have long history of being politicised but present case is like never before. couple of years back a gujarat cadre ips was appointed as director of cbi. he is arguably the most corrupt ips of gujrat. after hue and cry he was removed. same is the case with other officers in cbi, other institutions. if you care about reforms what about police reforms, bureaucracy reforms ordered by supreme Court? why these are not being implemented? situation was already bad and this semi literate criminal has made things far worse
To a commie sycophant like you, everyone or rather everything would seem like a conspiracy theory. Can you substantiate your allegations? Do you know you can be tried for spreading such false allegations against someone who is holding a constitutional post for defamation?
All the crybabies here. Stop crying. Do u people really think that rote learning current affairs & spectrum makes you qualified to run specialised ministries like Finance & Economic Affairs ?
Gone are the days where a History graduate would be running Finance ministry. It is a good step.
The bs about lack of specialized officers by godi govt is ludicrous. If one can understand the bigger plan, one can clearly see how institutions of importance (whether cultural or educational) are being hijacked by people of a particular ideology. Nothing wrong in that as long as the diversity is encouraged. We all know whats happening. Coming back to the recent issue, the fundamental problem has been deliberately overlooked. Nobody is contesting the lack of specialized officers. But why has this situation come about. Semi-literate politicians choose to allot postings to IAS officers based on their needs not of the govt or dept's. Seldom does one get posted in a field of his expertise. Specialization has not been encouraged. The average posting duration for an officer is 18 months. How is one supposed to implement policies and bring abt creative ideas and innovation when the lower staff is too lethargic to come out of their sweet spot and the political masters (who control promotions and postings) want the bureaucrats to dance to their tunes.
Dr. Raghuram Rajam is a case in point. I guess he was not competent enough to head the central bank according to the govt. He was forced to resign because of dissonance in ideas. So one wonders does the govt want experts or pliant officers ready to execute what the top brass orders. And if that is the case, then who is making the policies (I was under the assumption, senior bureaucrats play a major role in formulating the policies). cough Adani/Ambani errr..
And what about those hardworking candidates who are slogging day in and day out in their prime years? Do all of them, having a wide base of knowledge and huge experience (after 15-20 yrs of service) incapable of handling specialized posts? More importantly a 3 yr contract job for the pvt sector doesn't really inspire the kind of devotion or risks involved as compared to a career bureaucrat. I see a high chance of the pvt sector people prone to outside influence.
And a basic selfish question here. Why would an aspirant think of giving up years altogether and perhaps very lucrative career opportunities preparing for an exam which may not even guarantee promotions to higher posts which is now left open to the whims of politicians? The dressing wont help. I agree that the malaise is deep and so we need a structural reform not an ill-informed idea which will only cause more harm.
The golden Myth : Private Sector is much more competent and Public Sector Sucks!!. I challenge private sector to sail through our political crass and then also think about doing good for society. Public Sector especially bureaucrats( not all of them) at least are imbibed with some values that make them answerable to society, what's the notion that tie a private sector hire? Expertise from private sector could always be hired as advisers etc, but instead of that they are being ADJUSTED in the system. Also this is long cherished dream of many organisation to weaken this steel frame:
1. Spurt of articles and specialized reports whenever they want to change Civils pattern and question their credibility
2. Now these private hire will come in the system as being famously mouthed these days by media "WITHOUT UPSC". and i bet you end up being frustrated unless they are being given special veto. Thus weakening steel frame further.
3. Who will guarantee their allegiance?Will they think of greater good or more run it like corporate?
4. Who's stopping government to start appointing various ministers in accordance to their expertise for starters? Aren't they the one with vision ?
I think it shall be interesting to see dynamics of these new private hire and old bureaucracy.
P.S : Not against any kind of reforms in bureaucracy , and it's widely conclusive that their is a need for reforms. But lateral entry in this way might not be best solution for civil services.
good move , IAS should be dismantled completely. It's surprising how this colonial legacy has persisted even after 70 years of independence. IAS is a living anachronism. Yes it'd be painful in the short run just like demonetisation and Gst. But just as there cant be a child birth without pain, so too there cant be an overhaul of the system without causing pain to those in the loop of cse prep. You comrades shall make this sacrifice , you shall bear this pain so that the coming crop of young indians don't waste it's youth preparing for an exam that has lost it's relevance in the fast changing modern world.
First,Its not only about 10 odd post of Joint Secretory but a trend. From many previous initiative of our **chokidar it can be inferred he want to promote privatization.Less vacancies in UPSC,banks,ssc etc. Point out only in this direction.If he wins this time ,days are not far when government jobs are extinct thing and in remaining it will be on contract.
Second,In UP they are planning to increase retirement age of many govenment employes to 62/65 years. Question where will new graduates go,if the old continues to work.
Their strategy- ::Reduce vacancies increase applicant age so no protest.If you can't be ias at 32 you can be pcs at 42. Give people false hope. ::Random prelims so that senior players find it difficult to qualify prelims(Coz our PM perception,after 26 DM are more concerned about their family than district).
Therefore, Not put all eggs in single basket .And if unemployed for many years go for any job than prepare.I will not surprise if they reduce seats to 400 and age to 26 after next election.
It is amazing how people who haven't even joined the system are opposing a small step with such stridency. Does merely preparing for the bureaucracy make one a status quoist? Do you think that all of these people outside of government, non IAS are idiots, or worse still evil geniuses out to loot the country which the honourable IAS is trying so hard to protect? Who is to say that a man who has given 15 years of his life to working in the private sector in a particular domain (and there are many such domains as the pvt. sector now provides many public services such as telecom, electricity, etc.) will be unable to work for the country's interest. How can this random exam which involves guesswork, mindless cramming, and interview fortune be elevated to so high a pedestal? You are just repeating the rhetoric of the babus whose very existence is tied to singing praises of the UPSC. And do you not look around and see the kind of scum that gets into these services? Much of India's talent is in the non governmental sector, it is time that the IAS is firmly asked to give way.
I understand that the specialist/generalist debate is not really settled and there is an interesting idea of an expert generalist, but the IAS ain't it! So, bring it on. Let us not doubt everything that they are proposing in the government. I'm only surprised why this disn't happen earlier. What I have heard is that a bigger chunk of officers will be laterally inducted at the Director level, whiz kids with domain experinece. So be it.
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1. Spurt of articles and specialized reports whenever they want to change Civils pattern and question their credibility
https://theprint.in/opinion/what-does-an-ias-officer-bring-to-the-table-that-regular-mortals-cant/68636/
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/meritbased-civil-service-will-boost-growth/article6622555.ece
2. Now these private hire will come in the system as being famously mouthed these days by media "WITHOUT UPSC". and i bet you end up being frustrated unless they are being given special veto. Thus weakening steel frame further.
3. Who will guarantee their allegiance?Will they think of greater good or more run it like corporate?
4. Who's stopping government to start appointing various ministers in accordance to their expertise for starters? Aren't they the one with vision ?
I think it shall be interesting to see dynamics of these new private hire and old bureaucracy.
P.S : Not against any kind of reforms in bureaucracy , and it's widely conclusive that their is a need for reforms. But lateral entry in this way might not be best solution for civil services.
Gone are the days where a History graduate would be running Finance ministry. It is a good step.
Views of Shah Faisal in this regard!!
Dr. Raghuram Rajam is a case in point. I guess he was not competent enough to head the central bank according to the govt. He was forced to resign because of dissonance in ideas. So one wonders does the govt want experts or pliant officers ready to execute what the top brass orders. And if that is the case, then who is making the policies (I was under the assumption, senior bureaucrats play a major role in formulating the policies). cough
Adani/Ambanierrr..And what about those hardworking candidates who are slogging day in and day out in their prime years? Do all of them, having a wide base of knowledge and huge experience (after 15-20 yrs of service) incapable of handling specialized posts? More importantly a 3 yr contract job for the pvt sector doesn't really inspire the kind of devotion or risks involved as compared to a career bureaucrat. I see a high chance of the pvt sector people prone to outside influence.
And a basic selfish question here. Why would an aspirant think of giving up years altogether and perhaps very lucrative career opportunities preparing for an exam which may not even guarantee promotions to higher posts which is now left open to the whims of politicians? The dressing wont help. I agree that the malaise is deep and so we need a structural reform not an ill-informed idea which will only cause more harm.
i lost it, getting out of this vicious cycle
Second,In UP they are planning to increase retirement age of many govenment employes to 62/65 years. Question where will new graduates go,if the old continues to work.
Their strategy-
::Reduce vacancies increase applicant age so no protest.If you can't be ias at 32 you can be pcs at 42. Give people false hope.
::Random prelims so that senior players find it difficult to qualify prelims(Coz our PM perception,after 26 DM are more concerned about their family than district).
Therefore, Not put all eggs in single basket .And if unemployed for many years go for any job than prepare.I will not surprise if they reduce seats to 400 and age to 26 after next election.