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There can be merits and demerits of having CSAT but I simply fail to understand the logic of testing English Language skills in both Prelims/Mains. I assume they can get rid of it from Prelims since comprehension/writing skills are evaluated in Mains.
There can be merits and demerits of having CSAT but I simply fail to understand the logic of testing English Language skills in both Prelims/Mains. I assume they can get rid of it from Prelims since comprehension/writing skills are evaluated in Mains.
There are no IT,Computer Science subjects in mains due to which considerable number of aspirants have to take arts and humanities subjects which I think is even difficult for them.
Apart from that if syllabus is changed again then what would happen to those aspirants who have been working hard for CSAT.It has been around 3-4 years which is also considerable time,Whether not their efforts be wasted.
I agree there should be redressal of the grievances of students in best possible manner but Prelims being so near they should give their main focus on studies which will be useful for the long run.
There are no IT,Computer Science subjects in mains due to which considerable number of aspirants have to take arts and humanities subjects which I think is even difficult for them.
Apart from that if syllabus is changed again then what would happen to those aspirants who have been working hard for CSAT.It has been around 3-4 years which is also considerable time,Whether not their efforts be wasted.
I agree there should be redressal of the grievances of students in best possible manner but Prelims being so near they should give their main focus on studies which will be useful for the long run.
I really don't understand civil service is an premium examination. While i sympathise with the rural students i cannot for the life of me understand what are they angry about ??? I mean no one forced them to apply for this exam it was there choice and now they are saying please bring down level of exam because it is disadvantageous to us ??? This exam is meant to be disadvantageous .. And one who can turn disadvantage into advantage takes the glorious crown so why create hue and cry unnecessarily??? Better study hard because the harder you work the better is your chance to succeed .. Anyway hope better sense prevails soon.. All the best all of u.. Keep burning the midnight oil and refilling the coffee pots
If you want to destroy a country then destroy its culture, language, religion and beliefs and it will be destroyed automatically. - Chanakya
Chanakya said it and British applied it.
What an irony, Macaulay and Chanakya on the same page. By reading some of the comments here, Macaulay's soul would have attained nirvana. He finally succeeded in transforming the Indian Civil Services into a brigade of rulers divorced from Bharat.
To my mind, the Nehruvian consensus is at the root of this mess. The social status of the guardians of this consensus is under serious threat. Some of the comments here are seriously reminiscent of the arguments you hear from the South Delhi cocktail circuit. If you speak English in a stiff upper lip accent and have come from the UN, you cannot murder your wife(the argument the left liberals provide for shielding Shashi Tharoor).
It just baffles me to learn that the Nehruvian Consensus that should have been junked long ago is worn as a badge of intellect. No one questions Romila Thapar or RS Sharma or Ramchandra Guha when they glorify Mughal invaders and call the Rajputs and the Chola/Chera/Pandyas as the warring kings with no substantial contribution to India's culture. No one questions them when one of the most glorious kingdoms in the history of human race - the Vijayanagar Empire was brushed under the carpet. No one questioned them when they imagined and devised the Aryan Invasion theory and attempted to fragment my country that already has multiple fault-lines. No one questioned them when directly or indirectly, in the just concluded elections, they supported the scion of the grand old party of India, to whom if you suddenly ask - 'Who was the father of JL Nehru?' - will stare at you in shock.
The self appointed custodians of the 'Idea of India' sitting in King's College and Oxford University, read Sunil Khilnani, will force down the throats of a village boy in Saharanpur or Pollachi as to what he should think about his own country. If he doesn't agree with you, the next step is simple: Call him regressive. What Sunil Khilnani essentially says is that the Idea of India means that Aryans brought us Sanskrit, Alexander brought us Maths and Philosophy, Mughals brought us Chicken Tikka and Sitar, British brought us Cricket and Trains, and America will now give us Human Rights.
Bottomline: India has inherited everything and there is nothing distinctively 'Indian' so to speak. In other words, India's national identity is derivative in nature. And by extension, Indians must feel ashamed of who they are.
But to the dismay of many high and mighty, the current dispensation at the center would rip all these questions thread bare, whether one likes it or not. In this language debate, some people have evoked the classic left liberal formulation of the 60s - 'Unity in Diversity'. Well I agree with you, but while your stress is on 'Diversity', mine is on 'Unity'.
I'll leave you with this thought: From MJ Akbar's The Making of India - 'Nehru was at his vitriolic best while manifesting his hatred for the natives. He once said - "Go to hell, you Benares people!"'.
Interestingly such is destiny, that the man who the future generations will credit for debunking the Nehruvian Consensus/Elitism, will have led the nation while representing the same constituency in the parliament whose citizens Nehru, quite nonchalantly, treated as filth.
Adios Amigos, will return to the forum post prelims!
If you want to destroy a country then destroy its culture, language, religion and beliefs and it will be destroyed automatically. - Chanakya
Chanakya said it and British applied it.
What an irony, Macaulay and Chanakya on the same page. By reading some of the comments here, Macaulay's soul would have attained nirvana. He finally succeeded in transforming the Indian Civil Services into a brigade of rulers divorced from Bharat.
To my mind, the Nehruvian consensus is at the root of this mess. The social status of the guardians of this consensus is under serious threat. Some of the comments here are seriously reminiscent of the arguments you hear from the South Delhi cocktail circuit. If you speak English in a stiff upper lip accent and have come from the UN, you cannot murder your wife(the argument the left liberals provide for shielding Shashi Tharoor).
It just baffles me to learn that the Nehruvian Consensus that should have been junked long ago is worn as a badge of intellect. No one questions Romila Thapar or RS Sharma or Ramchandra Guha when they glorify Mughal invaders and call the Rajputs and the Chola/Chera/Pandyas as the warring kings with no substantial contribution to India's culture. No one questions them when one of the most glorious kingdoms in the history of human race - the Vijayanagar Empire was brushed under the carpet. No one questioned them when they imagined and devised the Aryan Invasion theory and attempted to fragment my country that already has multiple fault-lines. No one questioned them when directly or indirectly, in the just concluded elections, they supported the scion of the grand old party of India, to whom if you suddenly ask - 'Who was the father of JL Nehru?' - will stare at you in shock.
The self appointed custodians of the 'Idea of India' sitting in King's College and Oxford University, read Sunil Khilnani, will force down the throats of a village boy in Saharanpur or Pollachi as to what he should think about his own country. If he doesn't agree with you, the next step is simple: Call him regressive. What Sunil Khilnani essentially says is that the Idea of India means that Aryans brought us Sanskrit, Alexander brought us Maths and Philosophy, Mughals brought us Chicken Tikka and Sitar, British brought us Cricket and Trains, and America will now give us Human Rights.
Bottomline: India has inherited everything and there is nothing distinctively 'Indian' so to speak. In other words, India's national identity is derivative in nature. And by extension, Indians must feel ashamed of who they are.
But to the dismay of many high and mighty, the current dispensation at the center would rip all these questions thread bare, whether one likes it or not. In this language debate, some people have evoked the classic left liberal formulation of the 60s - 'Unity in Diversity'. Well I agree with you, but while your stress is on 'Diversity', mine is on 'Unity'.
I'll leave you with this thought: From MJ Akbar's The Making of India - 'Nehru was at his vitriolic best while manifesting his hatred for the natives. He once said - "Go to hell, you Benares people!"'.
Interestingly such is destiny, that the man who the future generations will credit for debunking the Nehruvian Consensus/Elitism, will have led the nation while representing the same constituency in the parliament whose citizens Nehru, quite nonchalantly, treated as filth.
Adios Amigos, will return to the forum post prelims!
wowwww.... bhai you are speaking the tone of RSS and BJP, amazing. !!!!!!!!!! NaMo will be very much happy to have the officers like you. Bhagwat , Togadiya , Joshi, Advani , Modi.....your opinions are as same as that of the aforesaid dignitaries..keep it up dude.......
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There are no IT,Computer Science subjects in mains due to which considerable number of aspirants have to take arts and humanities subjects which I think is even difficult for them.
Apart from that if syllabus is changed again then what would happen to those aspirants who have been working hard for CSAT.It has been around 3-4 years which is also considerable time,Whether not their efforts be wasted.
I agree there should be redressal of the grievances of students in best possible manner but Prelims being so near they should give their main focus on studies which will be useful for the long run.
This exam is meant to be disadvantageous .. And one who can turn disadvantage into advantage takes the glorious crown so why create hue and cry unnecessarily??? Better study hard because the harder you work the better is your chance to succeed ..
Anyway hope better sense prevails soon.. All the best all of u.. Keep burning the midnight oil and refilling the coffee pots
To my mind, the Nehruvian consensus is at the root of this mess. The social status of the guardians of this consensus is under serious threat. Some of the comments here are seriously reminiscent of the arguments you hear from the South Delhi cocktail circuit. If you speak English in a stiff upper lip accent and have come from the UN, you cannot murder your wife(the argument the left liberals provide for shielding Shashi Tharoor).
It just baffles me to learn that the Nehruvian Consensus that should have been junked long ago is worn as a badge of intellect. No one questions Romila Thapar or RS Sharma or Ramchandra Guha when they glorify Mughal invaders and call the Rajputs and the Chola/Chera/Pandyas as the warring kings with no substantial contribution to India's culture. No one questions them when one of the most glorious kingdoms in the history of human race - the Vijayanagar Empire was brushed under the carpet. No one questioned them when they imagined and devised the Aryan Invasion theory and attempted to fragment my country that already has multiple fault-lines. No one questioned them when directly or indirectly, in the just concluded elections, they supported the scion of the grand old party of India, to whom if you suddenly ask - 'Who was the father of JL Nehru?' - will stare at you in shock.
The self appointed custodians of the 'Idea of India' sitting in King's College and Oxford University, read Sunil Khilnani, will force down the throats of a village boy in Saharanpur or Pollachi as to what he should think about his own country. If he doesn't agree with you, the next step is simple: Call him regressive. What Sunil Khilnani essentially says is that the Idea of India means that
Aryans brought us Sanskrit,
Alexander brought us Maths and Philosophy,
Mughals brought us Chicken Tikka and Sitar,
British brought us Cricket and Trains, and
America will now give us Human Rights.
Bottomline: India has inherited everything and there is nothing distinctively 'Indian' so to speak. In other words, India's national identity is derivative in nature. And by extension, Indians must feel ashamed of who they are.
But to the dismay of many high and mighty, the current dispensation at the center would rip all these questions thread bare, whether one likes it or not. In this language debate, some people have evoked the classic left liberal formulation of the 60s - 'Unity in Diversity'. Well I agree with you, but while your stress is on 'Diversity', mine is on 'Unity'.
I'll leave you with this thought: From MJ Akbar's The Making of India - 'Nehru was at his vitriolic best while manifesting his hatred for the natives. He once said - "Go to hell, you Benares people!"'.
Interestingly such is destiny, that the man who the future generations will credit for debunking the Nehruvian Consensus/Elitism, will have led the nation while representing the same constituency in the parliament whose citizens Nehru, quite nonchalantly, treated as filth.
Adios Amigos, will return to the forum post prelims!