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Joined forum just few minutes ago. However, I have been following the discussion for past 9 days now.
Just an analysis of cutoff:
Lets consider 2015 as a balanced paper. Gen Cutoff: 107
2016 : Pretty simple , direct questions. Any serious candidate would have easily scored ~120. 2016: Cut off: 116
2017: One of the trickiest paper`s of the decade. If cut off can increase 9 marks from 2015 level in a simple paper of 2016. it can surely fall by 9 marks in a tricky paper in 2017 from 2015 level.
It is better to consider 2015 as a benchmark than 2016.
Thus cutoff should be around 100.
Coming to my performance:
IAS baba, Insights keys: 93.33
Vision IAS: 96
Shankar IAS: 98.66
My answers to other controversial questions: RTV: Constitutional IVC: 1&3 Cabinet: Speedy Butterfly : All 3 Contaminants : All 3 SFB: 1 & 2 UPI : A DPSP: Neither Port: Masulipatnam
Logic in answering these questions: UPSC states that questions will be of the level that a well aware person should be able to answer. Just considered myself to be well aware and ticked options that seemed to be general and logical without going deep into them.
PS: This was my first serious attempt. I am a working professional ~ 9 years experience. Not sure about clearing prelims this time. May clear it on boundary or may not. However, its time to prepare for mains. Its been 9 days since prelims. Time to put all our energy for next stage of the exam.
Best wishes!!!
RTV √ SFB √ UPI √ Cabinet speedy 100% × So you will be on better side
Just read 'Start-up Village Entrepreneurship Programme' and then read option C you would find the correct answer . Question is asking 'purpose of setting up' of sfb and it must be reflected in rbi guidelines or any sfbs product or services or mission statement but I don't find any such claims ... And sfb are not bound to setup their business only in rural areas.
In case of cabinet ... speedy has no relevance question is asking underlying principle and speedy quick फलाना ढिमका are not principle but might be consequences or reasons ... I have read official cabinet handbook of British as well as australian government and such 'speedy' fantasy was not mentioned there . Australian government's cabinet handbook 10th edition in the chapter 'CABINET CONVENTIONS AND PRINCIPLES' talks about it.
"Guiding Principles A Westminster-style Cabinet is defined by adherence to the principles of collective responsibility and Cabinet solidarity. These principles are the binding devices that ensure the unity of purpose of the Government and underpin the formulation of consistent policy advice. Collective Responsibility Collective responsibility is a long standing and integral part of the Cabinet system. It requires that whatever the range of private views put forward by ministers in the Cabinet, once decisions are arrived at and announced they are supported by all ministers. It ensures that the Government is collectively accountable and responsible to the Parliament and to the people of Australia."
now read option C it reflect the same thing it says " A mechanism of parliamentary democracy for ensuring collective responsibility of the Government to the people."
now compare it with option B
"मेलोडी खाओ खुद जान जाओ"
Yes, I do agree with you on Cabinet form of Govt. However while I was attempting the question, word speedy struck me just by looking at the word cabinet. Had the question been just on cabinet, answer had to be speedy work. I neglected cabinet form of Govt. and hence marked b.
I was of the thought " Why would UPSC ask same question twice?" viz. executive is responsible to legislature.
Infact, I came across UPSC's indicative syllabus regarding personal interview for selection of Non SCS officers to IAS.
The syllabus says "A broad perspective of Indian political system, concepts of parliamentary democracy, cabinet form of government, unitary vs federal systems of government ...etc.."
Seeing this syllabus stating cabinet form of govt. just after parliamentary democracy, i believe UPSC will go with C as Ans.
I have started studying even though my score isnt such that I can be confident. I dont even have the cushion of another attempt (don't deny it ya'll; it does blunt the sharp fall a person takes failing at any stage). Yet I will study like crazy- give a good number of hours, study GS and my optional each day. I'll remember the passion I feel for the job I want which is nothing less than God's work in my eyes...
I cried a lot. I spoke to assholes of "friends" who told me to not hope at all and let it go. One said he'd change his name if the cut off went below 107. Cried more. Another said think of options. Howled.
Then after a while a lull took over. I was sad and heartbroken...Felt in my bones the words of my favourite poet Avtar Singh paash "Sabto khatarnaak hai sade supneya da mar jana" (Deadliest is the death of our dreams) probably with the same intensity he may have written them with. I'm a really optimistic and passionate person but this was a blow which knocked me to the ground, face down, from which I just couldn't pick myself up. 3 days passed-- people on forum made me cry so much more.
Finally, crying at 3 AM, all alone in the dark, words of another very loved poet (PS- I am very sensitive to the literary word and I truly believe poets are magicians and god's delegates here on earth) just came to me. Just like that. Got up and searched for the book which had the whole nazm. Read it. cried. re-read it and then alllll the strength and self-belief flooded my veins
Here it is for anyone who cares (annoyingly annotated with my interpretations etc; please ignore; sometimes I just can't help myself)..I pray it works as a soothing balm to you to and you feel as healed as I did and have since
Ham par tumhari chaah ka ilzam hi to hai (I am accused of desiring you IPS) Dushnam to nahi hai ye ikram hi to hai (Not an abuse but it is an honour to me)
Karte hai jis pe taan, koi jurm to nahin (Those who are taunting me, it is no crime) Shauq-e-fazul o ulfat-e-nakam hi to hai (No useless pursuit, it is only unrequited love ;( )
Dil muddayi ke harf-e-malamat se shaad hai (My heart's still happy by the words of humiliation that are thrown my way by accusers, accusing me of dreaming so and failing multiple times; calling me a loser) Ai jan-e-jan ye harf tera naam hi to hai (My beloved IPS these words are an association to you only; an association/accusation of dreaming and desiring the good work you would have empowered me to do..lives you would have empowered me to elevate)
DIL NA UMEED TO NAHIN..NAKAM HI TO HAI (The words that came to me at night..my heart is still not hopeless, even though I've seen multiple failures) LAMBI HAI GHAM KI SHAAM MAGAR SHAAM HI TO HAI (This evening of sorrow doesn't seem to end for me, but SO WHAT! I know it is only but an evening )
dast-e-falak mein gardish-e-taqdeer to nahi (The hand of sky or the creator hasnt written this to be destiny, for I believe I write my destiny) dast-e-falak mein gardish-e-ayyaam hi to hai (It is only the creator showing me a few bad days)
Akhir to ek roz karegi nazar vafaa (one day UPSC shall find me worthy of your honour, o' uniform) vo yaar-e-khush-khisal sar-e-bam hi to hai (My beloved with unparalleled qualities, you're only sitting at the top of the terrace; and all I need to do is elevate my being- intellectual, emotional and physical to reach you!)
Bhigi hai raat 'faiz' ghazal ibtida karo (The night is drenched with my tears and sweat, begin your ghazal Faiz) vaqt-e-sarod dard ka hangaam hi to hai (The music of the moment is the clamour of my searing pain afterall)
~~Magician Faiz Ahmed Faiz
I was reminded that I will always wear the pursuit of my passion to join the IPS, and do the amazing work I want to do, provide the dignity my fellow compatriots are denied like a badge of honour. Even in the face of my personal tragedy I will continue to believe I can and remain optimistic..Lambi hai gham ki shaam to kya?! SHAAM HI TO HAI!!
I used to clear cutoff by 30-40 marks in CSAT era... never felt anxiety... But since 2015 I continuosly feel the threat of elimination when i see discussion on forum IAS...
In 2015 I scored nearly 110, and I was not happy with my score as I cud do 2 more correct and that wud bring in in much safer zone...
In 2016 I score 118 and was still skeptic as all of my friends was getting 125+... i felt ki i cud hv done 2 more question correct...
I am in same situation this year, it seems prima facie... I am at minimum 103, (with same feeling, 2 more questions wud have been correct)...
With my extensive experience I know it will be sufficient... I hv started doing my optional till results come... hopefully it will be positive...
Guys, especially new comers... believe me, if u r scoring minimum 95 with all doubtful considering wrong, u will hv 50 50 chances of getting in... if u hv 100 minimum considering doubtfull wrong... u r surely in...
So dont waste ur time... dont abuse each other... today is 28th, 4 months down the line this time u will be writing UPSC Mains...
Can't believe itne tough times mein gender discuss karna precedence le raha hai. Please everyone share your personal story to help others overcome their insecurity; pain; lonely battle. One (wo)man's courage makes a majority!!!!
I am a female isnt it very obvious from Khatoon in my user name?? Khatoon matlab a lady! Hadd ho gayi...
निग़ाह बुलंद सुखन दिलनवाज़ जाँ पुरसोज़ यही है रख्त-ए-सफर मीर-ए-कारवाँ के लिये - इक़बाल Lofty vision, heart-warming speech and a soul on fire Of the leader of a caravan, this is all we require.
जुस्तजू हो तो सफ़र ख़त्म कहाँ होता है यूँ तो हर मोड़ पे मंज़िल का ग़ुमाँ होता है - ग़ुलाम रब्बानी ताबान For the seeker the journey will never end Though he may delude himself at every bend.
I love words. I am obsessed with all form of visual arts. I can look at star charts for hours and I own a tiny telescope. Loving these can't get you anywhere, can it? Neither will it make you a good son/daughter.
I am also a postgraduate from a premier Institute with hons and a gold medal, so I had a good thing going on career wise. And in my native, it was pure gold.
Then CSE happened. I wrote mains in my first attempt. Then, a cycle of sadness and despair.
Couple of year fast forward, CSE is a thing of past for me. I teach engineering grads in a premier Institute. I give myself solace saying that this is my chance to work for flaws in technical education in country, and I love all my kids there, but I can't stop thinking about LBSNAA and life thereafter.
I have age and attempt both for CSE, I don't if it's a good thing or bad... But you know, enough about myself, I would like to say something to all of you out there, everyone like khatoon.
This is coming straight from heart. You are all no less than a warrior. I respect you, and I want you to win, assuming what attracts you towards services is not grey. I want you to get in, it feels like I know you, reading your posts over years and years, and I want you to do what I could never achieve.
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I was of the thought " Why would UPSC ask same question twice?" viz. executive is responsible to legislature.
Infact, I came across UPSC's indicative syllabus regarding personal interview for selection of Non SCS officers to IAS.
The syllabus says "A broad perspective of Indian political system, concepts of parliamentary democracy, cabinet form of government, unitary vs federal systems of government ...etc.."
Seeing this syllabus stating cabinet form of govt. just after parliamentary democracy, i believe UPSC will go with C as Ans.
I cried a lot. I spoke to assholes of "friends" who told me to not hope at all and let it go. One said he'd change his name if the cut off went below 107. Cried more. Another said think of options. Howled.
Then after a while a lull took over. I was sad and heartbroken...Felt in my bones the words of my favourite poet Avtar Singh paash "Sabto khatarnaak hai sade supneya da mar jana" (Deadliest is the death of our dreams) probably with the same intensity he may have written them with.
I'm a really optimistic and passionate person but this was a blow which knocked me to the ground, face down, from which I just couldn't pick myself up. 3 days passed-- people on forum made me cry so much more.
Finally, crying at 3 AM, all alone in the dark, words of another very loved poet (PS- I am very sensitive to the literary word and I truly believe poets are magicians and god's delegates here on earth) just came to me. Just like that. Got up and searched for the book which had the whole nazm.
Read it. cried. re-read it and then alllll the strength and self-belief flooded my veins
Here it is for anyone who cares (annoyingly annotated with my interpretations etc; please ignore; sometimes I just can't help myself)..I pray it works as a soothing balm to you to and you feel as healed as I did and have since
Ham par tumhari chaah ka ilzam hi to hai
(I am accused of desiring you IPS)
Dushnam to nahi hai ye ikram hi to hai
(Not an abuse but it is an honour to me)
Karte hai jis pe taan, koi jurm to nahin
(Those who are taunting me, it is no crime)
Shauq-e-fazul o ulfat-e-nakam hi to hai
(No useless pursuit, it is only unrequited love ;( )
Dil muddayi ke harf-e-malamat se shaad hai
(My heart's still happy by the words of humiliation that are thrown my way by accusers, accusing me of dreaming so and failing multiple times; calling me a loser)
Ai jan-e-jan ye harf tera naam hi to hai
(My beloved IPS these words are an association to you only; an association/accusation of dreaming and desiring the good work you would have empowered me to do..lives you would have empowered me to elevate)
DIL NA UMEED TO NAHIN..NAKAM HI TO HAI
(The words that came to me at night..my heart is still not hopeless, even though I've seen multiple failures)
LAMBI HAI GHAM KI SHAAM MAGAR SHAAM HI TO HAI
(This evening of sorrow doesn't seem to end for me, but SO WHAT! I know it is only but an evening
dast-e-falak mein gardish-e-taqdeer to nahi
(The hand of sky or the creator hasnt written this to be destiny, for I believe I write my destiny)
dast-e-falak mein gardish-e-ayyaam hi to hai
(It is only the creator showing me a few bad days)
Akhir to ek roz karegi nazar vafaa
(one day UPSC shall find me worthy of your honour, o' uniform)
vo yaar-e-khush-khisal sar-e-bam hi to hai
(My beloved with unparalleled qualities, you're only sitting at the top of the terrace; and all I need to do is elevate my being- intellectual, emotional and physical to reach you!)
Bhigi hai raat 'faiz' ghazal ibtida karo
(The night is drenched with my tears and sweat, begin your ghazal Faiz)
vaqt-e-sarod dard ka hangaam hi to hai
(The music of the moment is the clamour of my searing pain afterall)
~~Magician Faiz Ahmed Faiz
I was reminded that I will always wear the pursuit of my passion to join the IPS, and do the amazing work I want to do, provide the dignity my fellow compatriots are denied like a badge of honour. Even in the face of my personal tragedy I will continue to believe I can and remain optimistic..Lambi hai gham ki shaam to kya?! SHAAM HI TO HAI!!
But since 2015 I continuosly feel the threat of elimination when i see discussion on forum IAS...
In 2015 I scored nearly 110, and I was not happy with my score as I cud do 2 more correct and that wud bring in in much safer zone...
In 2016 I score 118 and was still skeptic as all of my friends was getting 125+... i felt ki i cud hv done 2 more question correct...
I am in same situation this year, it seems prima facie... I am at minimum 103, (with same feeling, 2 more questions wud have been correct)...
With my extensive experience I know it will be sufficient... I hv started doing my optional till results come... hopefully it will be positive...
Guys, especially new comers... believe me, if u r scoring minimum 95 with all doubtful considering wrong, u will hv 50 50 chances of getting in... if u hv 100 minimum considering doubtfull wrong... u r surely in...
So dont waste ur time... dont abuse each other... today is 28th, 4 months down the line this time u will be writing UPSC Mains...
Bye till the result...
Just wow
I can totally guess u r a girl. All the best dear
Please everyone share your personal story to help others overcome their insecurity; pain; lonely battle.
One (wo)man's courage makes a majority!!!!
I am a female
isnt it very obvious from Khatoon in my user name?? Khatoon matlab a lady! Hadd ho gayi...
यही है रख्त-ए-सफर मीर-ए-कारवाँ के लिये
- इक़बाल
Lofty vision, heart-warming speech and a soul on fire
Of the leader of a caravan, this is all we require.
जुस्तजू हो तो सफ़र ख़त्म कहाँ होता है
यूँ तो हर मोड़ पे मंज़िल का ग़ुमाँ होता है
- ग़ुलाम रब्बानी ताबान
For the seeker the journey will never end
Though he may delude himself at every bend.
यूँ तो हर मोड़ पे मंज़िल का ग़ुमाँ होता है
ah wala tan ghaint h 22
I love words. I am obsessed with all form of visual arts. I can look at star charts for hours and I own a tiny telescope. Loving these can't get you anywhere, can it? Neither will it make you a good son/daughter.
I am also a postgraduate from a premier Institute with hons and a gold medal, so I had a good thing going on career wise. And in my native, it was pure gold.
Then CSE happened. I wrote mains in my first attempt. Then, a cycle of sadness and despair.
Couple of year fast forward, CSE is a thing of past for me. I teach engineering grads in a premier Institute. I give myself solace saying that this is my chance to work for flaws in technical education in country, and I love all my kids there, but I can't stop thinking about LBSNAA and life thereafter.
I have age and attempt both for CSE, I don't if it's a good thing or bad... But you know, enough about myself, I would like to say something to all of you out there, everyone like khatoon.
This is coming straight from heart. You are all no less than a warrior. I respect you, and I want you to win, assuming what attracts you towards services is not grey. I want you to get in, it feels like I know you, reading your posts over years and years, and I want you to do what I could never achieve.
A big hug.