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Joined forum just few minutes ago. However, I have been following the discussion for past 9 days now.
Just an analysis of cutoff:
Lets consider 2015 as a balanced paper. Gen Cutoff: 107
2016 : Pretty simple , direct questions. Any serious candidate would have easily scored ~120. 2016: Cut off: 116
2017: One of the trickiest paper`s of the decade. If cut off can increase 9 marks from 2015 level in a simple paper of 2016. it can surely fall by 9 marks in a tricky paper in 2017 from 2015 level.
It is better to consider 2015 as a benchmark than 2016.
Thus cutoff should be around 100.
Coming to my performance:
IAS baba, Insights keys: 93.33
Vision IAS: 96
Shankar IAS: 98.66
My answers to other controversial questions: RTV: Constitutional IVC: 1&3 Cabinet: Speedy Butterfly : All 3 Contaminants : All 3 SFB: 1 & 2 UPI : A DPSP: Neither Port: Masulipatnam
Logic in answering these questions: UPSC states that questions will be of the level that a well aware person should be able to answer. Just considered myself to be well aware and ticked options that seemed to be general and logical without going deep into them.
PS: This was my first serious attempt. I am a working professional ~ 9 years experience. Not sure about clearing prelims this time. May clear it on boundary or may not. However, its time to prepare for mains. Its been 9 days since prelims. Time to put all our energy for next stage of the exam.
Best wishes!!!
RTV √ SFB √ UPI √ Cabinet speedy 100% × So you will be on better side
Just read 'Start-up Village Entrepreneurship Programme' and then read option C you would find the correct answer . Question is asking 'purpose of setting up' of sfb and it must be reflected in rbi guidelines or any sfbs product or services or mission statement but I don't find any such claims ... And sfb are not bound to setup their business only in rural areas.
In case of cabinet ... speedy has no relevance question is asking underlying principle and speedy quick फलाना ढिमका are not principle but might be consequences or reasons ... I have read official cabinet handbook of British as well as australian government and such 'speedy' fantasy was not mentioned there . Australian government's cabinet handbook 10th edition in the chapter 'CABINET CONVENTIONS AND PRINCIPLES' talks about it.
"Guiding Principles A Westminster-style Cabinet is defined by adherence to the principles of collective responsibility and Cabinet solidarity. These principles are the binding devices that ensure the unity of purpose of the Government and underpin the formulation of consistent policy advice. Collective Responsibility Collective responsibility is a long standing and integral part of the Cabinet system. It requires that whatever the range of private views put forward by ministers in the Cabinet, once decisions are arrived at and announced they are supported by all ministers. It ensures that the Government is collectively accountable and responsible to the Parliament and to the people of Australia."
now read option C it reflect the same thing it says " A mechanism of parliamentary democracy for ensuring collective responsibility of the Government to the people."
Had the 2nd ranker anmol sher singh bedi (pre marks 116) and 2011 2nd ranker rukmini riar ( pre marks 199 cutoff 198) been worried about cuttoff, they would hv flunked mains... its ok to worry but dont get paranoid about it... avoid forum till result or avoid cutoff related threads till result..they serve no good...study hard for mains..u never know..u might be the next topper.
Brilliant thread. Scoring around 105/106 myself acc to shankar (strict marking, controversial Q or not). Been endlessly checking forum threads for a week now. Everytime it's just about some guy/ some analysis which would go in my favour. I've studied nothing, no productive work, no meeting friends, nothing. A bleddy shrub has a better life than I at this point.
So I decided 2 days back -- fuck it. This leads nowhere. In whose hands is the result? It's not in mine. Some folks would decide it based on some bleh calculations etc etc etc.
Jab aayega toh dekhenge. Abhi, prep karlo. Screw the associated anxiety. Aayega, ghabralenge, phir wapas lag jayenge prep mein. Do whatever, but do something that's related to mains. That's all. My 2 cents.
I wouldnt worry at 105!!! Secondly, I'd like to add that when one is a bit insecure-- even if a gadha says the most illogical of things with conviction we lose it. A lot of the people here are so full of conviction and are saying things that, like me, are probably making a lot of people super anxious and dejected. Fuck it and just study. No one knows jack shit. In 2014 a lot of people lost a lot of time due to this 220 hi jayegi cut off blah blah blah..
I wouldnt worry at 105!!! Secondly, I'd like to add that when one is a bit insecure-- even if a gadha says the most illogical of things with conviction we lose it. A lot of the people here are so full of conviction and are saying things that, like me, are probably making a lot of people super anxious and dejected. Fuck it and just study. No one knows jack shit. In 2014 a lot of people lost a lot of time due to this 220 hi jayegi cut off blah blah blah..
Everyone who is worried and asking insensitive, ill informed and smug people with good marks "what will be the cut off"; "will I clear"
Very wise Gurdas Mann (poet and singer we in Punjab love and adore) said about this duniya and its people-- "iss nagri di ajab kahani, dubbdeya de muh paundi paani"
"This world's a strange place, its people like to put water in the mouths of those they find drowning"
Joined forum just few minutes ago. However, I have been following the discussion for past 9 days now.
Just an analysis of cutoff:
Lets consider 2015 as a balanced paper. Gen Cutoff: 107
2016 : Pretty simple , direct questions. Any serious candidate would have easily scored ~120. 2016: Cut off: 116
2017: One of the trickiest paper`s of the decade. If cut off can increase 9 marks from 2015 level in a simple paper of 2016. it can surely fall by 9 marks in a tricky paper in 2017 from 2015 level.
It is better to consider 2015 as a benchmark than 2016.
Thus cutoff should be around 100.
Coming to my performance:
IAS baba, Insights keys: 93.33
Vision IAS: 96
Shankar IAS: 98.66
My answers to other controversial questions: RTV: Constitutional IVC: 1&3 Cabinet: Speedy Butterfly : All 3 Contaminants : All 3 SFB: 1 & 2 UPI : A DPSP: Neither Port: Masulipatnam
Logic in answering these questions: UPSC states that questions will be of the level that a well aware person should be able to answer. Just considered myself to be well aware and ticked options that seemed to be general and logical without going deep into them.
PS: This was my first serious attempt. I am a working professional ~ 9 years experience. Not sure about clearing prelims this time. May clear it on boundary or may not. However, its time to prepare for mains. Its been 9 days since prelims. Time to put all our energy for next stage of the exam.
Best wishes!!!
RTV √ SFB √ UPI √ Cabinet speedy 100% × So you will be on better side
Just read 'Start-up Village Entrepreneurship Programme' and then read option C you would find the correct answer . Question is asking 'purpose of setting up' of sfb and it must be reflected in rbi guidelines or any sfbs product or services or mission statement but I don't find any such claims ... And sfb are not bound to setup their business only in rural areas.
In case of cabinet ... speedy has no relevance question is asking underlying principle and speedy quick फलाना ढिमका are not principle but might be consequences or reasons ... I have read official cabinet handbook of British as well as australian government and such 'speedy' fantasy was not mentioned there . Australian government's cabinet handbook 10th edition in the chapter 'CABINET CONVENTIONS AND PRINCIPLES' talks about it.
"Guiding Principles A Westminster-style Cabinet is defined by adherence to the principles of collective responsibility and Cabinet solidarity. These principles are the binding devices that ensure the unity of purpose of the Government and underpin the formulation of consistent policy advice. Collective Responsibility Collective responsibility is a long standing and integral part of the Cabinet system. It requires that whatever the range of private views put forward by ministers in the Cabinet, once decisions are arrived at and announced they are supported by all ministers. It ensures that the Government is collectively accountable and responsible to the Parliament and to the people of Australia."
now read option C it reflect the same thing it says " A mechanism of parliamentary democracy for ensuring collective responsibility of the Government to the people."
now compare it with option B
"मेलोडी खाओ खुद जान जाओ"
look into this..yes i marked speedy.. Sir,Please note ..the Cabinet(A mini council of ministers) is responsible to parliament and especially to the lok sabha..In UK..in the cabinet form of govt.. there is only cabinet and there is no council of ministers convept there..In the world..westminister form of govt is the most authentic cabinet form of govt..in that govt..cabinet is responsible to parliament(not just house of commons).. No where in the question there is mentioned India in the question..so no where in the world in any cabinet form of governments.. the cabinet is responsible to people.. The drkt question for this is..Is council of ministers(cabinet) is responsible to people or lok sabha? Even USA govt has cabinet .. cabinet form of govt doesnot mean parliamentary form please note.. In USA .. cabinet is chosen to speed up the day to day activities.
Let me pass on the advice given to the world by a great intellectual, someone who cared about those he shared his time on earth with and also for those who were to come after he was long gone..Believe and internalise his words for he isnt petty like most people you'll encounter otherwise (especially on this forum) and he genuinely cared..
Janaab Allama Iqbal instructs you to adopt the following attitude for to help you deal with uncertainty of "am I in with this score or out" and extreme stress that unfolding of the last 11 days of events lead you to:
Batil se dabne vaale ai Aasman Nahi ham
Sau baar kar chuka hai tu imtihan hamara
(Batil- falsehood or untrue)
Further, Lakhnavi ji's words are golden and let us all think this way: Aata hai jo tufan aane de Kashti Ka Khuda Khud Hafiz hai
Mumkin hai ki uthi Lehron mein behta hua sahil aa jaa.e
But I am convinced that uthi lehro se sahil ki journey requires our resolute effort. This depressive and uncertain wave must be ridden with such a killer attitude that we channel every inch of our mindspace to effective studying.
Ending this very very long post with Jigar Moradabadi ji's words
Jo Tufaano mein palte ja rahe hai
Vahi duniya badalte ja rahe hai
Control your mind. Put up a stellar fight. Don't ask any person for any help in terms of reassuring asnwers or comfort. NO. Work hard and watch how magic happens...sooner (inshallah) if not later.
In the weak moments in the coming month, remember the wise words of Wahidi sa'ab.. Kisi ko kaise bataein zaruratein apni
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Cabinet speedy 100% ×
So you will be on better side
Just read 'Start-up Village Entrepreneurship Programme' and then read option C you would find the correct answer . Question is asking 'purpose of setting up' of sfb and it must be reflected in rbi guidelines or any sfbs product or services or mission statement but I don't find any such claims ...
And sfb are not bound to setup their business only in rural areas.
In case of cabinet ... speedy has no relevance question is asking underlying principle and speedy quick फलाना ढिमका are not principle but might be consequences or reasons ... I have read official cabinet handbook of British as well as australian government and such 'speedy' fantasy was not mentioned there .
Australian government's cabinet handbook 10th edition in the chapter 'CABINET CONVENTIONS AND PRINCIPLES' talks about it.
"Guiding Principles
A Westminster-style Cabinet is defined by adherence to the principles of collective responsibility and Cabinet solidarity. These principles are the binding devices that ensure the unity of purpose of the Government and underpin the formulation of consistent policy advice. Collective Responsibility
Collective responsibility is a long standing and integral part of the Cabinet system. It requires that whatever the range of private views put forward by ministers in the Cabinet, once decisions are arrived at and announced they are supported by all ministers. It ensures that the Government is collectively accountable and responsible to the Parliament and to the people of Australia."
now read option C it reflect the same thing
it says " A mechanism of parliamentary democracy for ensuring collective responsibility of the Government to the people."
now compare it with option B
"मेलोडी खाओ खुद जान जाओ"
So I decided 2 days back -- fuck it. This leads nowhere. In whose hands is the result? It's not in mine. Some folks would decide it based on some bleh calculations etc etc etc.
Jab aayega toh dekhenge. Abhi, prep karlo. Screw the associated anxiety. Aayega, ghabralenge, phir wapas lag jayenge prep mein. Do whatever, but do something that's related to mains. That's all. My 2 cents.
Secondly, I'd like to add that when one is a bit insecure-- even if a gadha says the most illogical of things with conviction we lose it. A lot of the people here are so full of conviction and are saying things that, like me, are probably making a lot of people super anxious and dejected.
Fuck it and just study. No one knows jack shit. In 2014 a lot of people lost a lot of time due to this 220 hi jayegi cut off blah blah blah..
Shakeel Badayuni ke alfazo mein--
Chahiye khud pe yakin-e-kamil
(you need resolute faith in yourself and your understanding of things)
haunsla kis ka badhata hai koi
Very wise Gurdas Mann (poet and singer we in Punjab love and adore) said about this duniya and its people-- "iss nagri di ajab kahani, dubbdeya de muh paundi paani"
"This world's a strange place, its people like to put water in the mouths of those they find drowning"
Sir,Please note ..the Cabinet(A mini council of ministers) is responsible to parliament and especially to the lok sabha..In UK..in the cabinet form of govt.. there is only cabinet and there is no council of ministers convept there..In the world..westminister form of govt is the most authentic cabinet form of govt..in that govt..cabinet is responsible to parliament(not just house of commons).. No where in the question there is mentioned India in the question..so no where in the world in any cabinet form of governments.. the cabinet is responsible to people.. The drkt question for this is..Is council of ministers(cabinet) is responsible to people or lok sabha? Even USA govt has cabinet .. cabinet form of govt doesnot mean parliamentary form please note.. In USA .. cabinet is chosen to speed up the day to day activities.
Janaab Allama Iqbal instructs you to adopt the following attitude for to help you deal with uncertainty of "am I in with this score or out" and extreme stress that unfolding of the last 11 days of events lead you to:
Batil se dabne vaale ai Aasman Nahi ham
Sau baar kar chuka hai tu imtihan hamara
(Batil- falsehood or untrue)
Further, Lakhnavi ji's words are golden and let us all think this way:
Aata hai jo tufan aane de Kashti Ka Khuda Khud Hafiz hai
Mumkin hai ki uthi Lehron mein behta hua sahil aa jaa.e
But I am convinced that uthi lehro se sahil ki journey requires our resolute effort. This depressive and uncertain wave must be ridden with such a killer attitude that we channel every inch of our mindspace to effective studying.
Ending this very very long post with Jigar Moradabadi ji's words
Jo Tufaano mein palte ja rahe hai
Vahi duniya badalte ja rahe hai
Control your mind. Put up a stellar fight. Don't ask any person for any help in terms of reassuring asnwers or comfort. NO. Work hard and watch how magic happens...sooner (inshallah) if not later.
In the weak moments in the coming month, remember the wise words of Wahidi sa'ab..
Kisi ko kaise bataein zaruratein apni
madad mile na mile aabru to jaati hai