Biharis in Gujarat issue.... Problem and solution.

I don't intend to hurt anyone's sentiments.

Hello friends I want to draw your attention to this matter which is being discussed in pan indian media.


Please put your logical and practical points to address this issue.
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  • edited October 10
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    In times of universal deceit,telling the truth is a revolutionary act!
  • its time for final solution
  • edited October 10
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  • This is all politics by a casteist snake called Alpesh Thakore of the Congress. These people don't want to work hard like people from UP and Bihar and MP and want to drive the immigrants out to create loss of business in Gujarat to show the Government in bad light. I don't think people of North India will tolerate this Rahul Gandhi and his henchman Alpesh Thakore for indulging in violence against north indian people. Sanjay Nirupam has no words to condemn their leaders for all this mess but people are very smart and knows who is guilty.
  • consequence
    if bihari and up leave then GDP of gujrat will come down drastically
  • make gujarat great again
  • edited October 10
    krr said:

    make gujarat great again

    Please refrain from commenting here.

    This is serious issue for the country as a whole. :|
  • krr said:

    make gujarat great again

    Please refrain from commenting here.

    This is serious issue for the country as a whole. :|
    u are muzzling opposite voices and dissent :|
  • krr said:

    krr said:

    make gujarat great again

    Please refrain from commenting here.

    This is serious issue for the country as a whole. :|
    u are muzzling opposite voices and dissent :|
    Refrain
  • Maharashtra, Gujarat, Punjab and NCR econmies are invariably running on the migrants from UP, Bihar. These people are occupying the lowest level of jobs (construction sector, farm labourers especially in Punjab etc) which local people often don't want to do it or will not be doing it even in absence of migrants. The migrants often is a cheap labor for industries and construction sector. These states economy depends heavily on the migrants, the absence of which will lead to collapse of their economy. This relationship between these economic centres and migrants is mutually beneficial as former need cheap labor while later require employment (due to lack of development and employment opportunities in their own state). However uncontrolled migration will invariably lead to crowding and social problems. The only way forward us to develop the magnet cities (like NCR) in between these places or in home town/states of migrants so as to avoid concentration of migrants in those destination states. No body wants to leave his/her home town/state but economic situations force people often to migrate.
  • Dead Man said:

    Maharashtra, Gujarat, Punjab and NCR econmies are invariably running on the migrants from UP, Bihar. These people are occupying the lowest level of jobs (construction sector, farm labourers especially in Punjab etc) which local people often don't want to do it or will not be doing it even in absence of migrants. The migrants often is a cheap labor for industries and construction sector. These states economy depends heavily on the migrants, the absence of which will lead to collapse of their economy. This relationship between these economic centres and migrants is mutually beneficial as former need cheap labor while later require employment (due to lack of development and employment opportunities in their own state). However uncontrolled migration will invariably lead to crowding and social problems. The only way forward us to develop the magnet cities (like NCR) in between these places or in home town/states of migrants so as to avoid concentration of migrants in those destination states. No body wants to leave his/her home town/state but economic situations force people often to migrate.

    This is relevant :+1:
  • problem bjp ki kamjor ssarkaar he rule of law maintain kr nhi paati roj lynching ho jaati he kisi ki bhi , bhut lambe time se ye chl rha he ab logo ko encouragement mil gya he ,police prasasan ka koi darr nhi rha, log sochte he baapji ki sarkaar he jb lynching pr kisi ka kuch nhi hota toh 2-4 laat ghuse maar diye jaye kisi ko toh kyu bhala kuch hoga
    dusre reasons agricultural stress , jobless growth, sarkari naukri ki katauti….bacche ghr pr bethe hue he berojgaar udti hui khabaro pr seedhe danda utha kr nikal pdte he apna frustration niklane , Sarkar se toh kuch kh nhi skte because Stockholm syndrome, toh bechare gareeb, kuchle, mulaah , dalit , Bihari inko nisaana bnate hai
    initializing MIDI inputs and outputs ェ炎のーカ
  • पूर्वी उत्तर प्रदेश / बिहार के लोग कोई राजनीतिक पोल्ट्री फार्म के जीव नहीं है की जब मन में आया मार पीट के भगा दो , खुद को प्रासंगिक बनाओ और वोटों फसल काट लो।

    धन्नासेठ गुजराती जल्द ही अमेरिका /यूरोप के श्वेत नस्लवाद से पीड़ित होकर जल्द स्वदेश आये .. धक्के मार के भगाये जाएं
    ऐसी कामनां है ..

    वैसे भी महाराष्ट्र , गुजरात- अहमदाबाद , मुंबई कोई जापान-टोक्यो तो है नहीं .. न जाने किस बात का घमंड हो रखा है

    मोदी जी , प्रधान मंत्री का अगला कार्यकाल तो दूर की बात है , वाराणसी में अपनी सीट बचा लें ... वही बहुत है ..
    बहनजी .. अखिलेश भैया .. नितेश कुमार अब चूड़ी पहन लें .. लिपस्टिक लगा लें और राजनीति करें ..


    जिसको न निज गौरव तथा निज देश का अभिमान है ।
    वो नर नही नर पशु निरा और मृतक समान है ।।
  • edited October 10
    I firmly condemn the incident of rape allegedly by a Bihari .

    But how come crime by one can punish and molest a whole community.Do you think Biharis are pity to be fondle and thrashed at your own will.
    Sometimes its Jaimaratha the other time its some lg statement.How long will it go on.

    Why everytime Biharis shall be pushed to migrate why they cant devlop on their own to migrate as per their own luxaries and based on offerings by the State or metros.

    In Bihari caste and even sub caste continues to play major role in electoral mandate.

    Population is high enough to ensure perpetuating poverty

    Lack of minerals forest and concurrence of flood hampers economic scenario.

    And most importantly the typical Bihari mentality a Yadav cant become sweeper in Bihar but will accept any menial job in ncr.

    All this results in providing continous supply of chrap laboour to rest of India.They mock and exploit Biharis at their whims and fancies.
    No takers of this heinous exploitation of human rights while raise an issue of illegal bengladishies and then you see the posters and banners of humanist #vasudevkutumbakam huh :smirk:

  • पूर्वी उत्तर प्रदेश / बिहार के लोग कोई राजनीतिक पोल्ट्री फार्म के जीव नहीं है की जब मन में आया मार पीट के भगा दो , खुद को प्रासंगिक बनाओ और वोटों फसल काट लो।

    धन्नासेठ गुजराती जल्द ही अमेरिका /यूरोप के श्वेत नस्लवाद से पीड़ित होकर जल्द स्वदेश आये .. धक्के मार के भगाये जाएं
    ऐसी कामनां है ..

    वैसे भी महाराष्ट्र , गुजरात- अहमदाबाद , मुंबई कोई जापान-टोक्यो तो है नहीं .. न जाने किस बात का घमंड हो रखा है

    मोदी जी , प्रधान मंत्री का अगला कार्यकाल तो दूर की बात है , वाराणसी में अपनी सीट बचा लें ... वही बहुत है ..
    बहनजी .. अखिलेश भैया .. नितेश कुमार अब चूड़ी पहन लें .. लिपस्टिक लगा लें और राजनीति करें ..


    जिसको न निज गौरव तथा निज देश का अभिमान है ।
    वो नर नही नर पशु निरा और मृतक समान है ।।

    Its so me :relaxed:
  • पूर्वी उत्तर प्रदेश और बिहार के लोग भी आत्मसमान विहीन है . जहाँ देखो बस मुँह उठाये पहुँच जाते हैं . जब झारखण्ड था , तब भी यहाँ के भ्रष्ट राजनेता औद्योगिक विकास से मुह्ह मोड़ के बैठे थे। जनसँख्या पे नियंत्रण हेतु युद्ध स्तर पे जागरूकता पैदा करने की अपेक्षा स्वयं की जातीय संख्या में वृद्धि को देखकर अपनी नाकारा संतानों का भविष्य उज्जवल जान कर चैन की नींद सोते हैं।

    गंगा के मैदान में आखिर कोई औद्योगिक विकास होगा भी कहाँ से ?
    जरूरत थी / है छोटा नागपुर.. .ओडिसा को पश्चिमी यूरोप बनाने की . पूर्वी तटरेखा को शंघाई , हांगकांग बनने की.. दक्षिण कोरिया की तरह मानव संसाधन के विकास की ... बस यही नहीं हुआ यहाँ ..
    चाण्यक्य , आर्यभट्ट की कर्मभूमि आज उपमहाद्वीप का सर्वाधिक अशिक्षित क्षेत्र है.. . मानसिकता आज भी वही सामंती प्रवित्ति वाली है.. . खिलाडियों की जगह नेता/अपराधी पैदा हो रहे हैं .. बलात्कार आदि पर तो मूक समझौता अब पूरे उपमहाद्वीप की विशेषता हो चुकी है।

    और ऐसा होगा भी क्यों नहीं .. जब पुरषार्थ , आत्मबल , विश्वास का आश्रय छोड़कर .. जाति धर्म के बूते पर सब कुछ हासिल हो रहा है तो यही परिणाम मिलेगा ..

    मगध की सेनाओं ने कभी भारतभूमि की सीमाओं का अतिक्रमण किया था .. उनकी संततियां आज भेड़ बकरियों की तरह हाँकी जा रही हैं तो कहीं न कहीं हमें भी अपनी गिरेबान में झांकना होगा ..


    दिनकर जी की पंकितयों उद्धृत कर रहा हूँ

    कितनी मणियाँ लुट गईं?
    मिटा कितना मेरा वैभव अशेष!
    तू ध्यान-मग्न ही रहा, इधर
    वीरान हुआ प्यारा स्वदेश।
    वैशाली के भग्नावशेष से
    पूछ लिच्छवी-शान कहाँ?
    ओ री उदास गण्डकी! बता
    विद्यापति कवि के गान कहाँ?

    तू तरुण देश से पूछ अरे,
    गूँजा कैसा यह ध्वंस-राग?
    अम्बुधि-अन्तस्तल-बीच छिपी
    यह सुलग रही है कौन आग?

    प्राची के प्रांगण-बीच देख,
    जल रहा स्वर्ण-युग-अग्निज्वाल,
    तू सिंहनाद कर जाग तपी!
    मेरे नगपति! मेरे विशाल!
  • Here also it has become an ‘US vs Them’ phenomenon, just like what happened in Gujarat.
  • Farebi said:

    Here also it has become an ‘US vs Them’ phenomenon, just like what happened in Gujarat.

    No way
  • Disproportionate migration in any area will create problems.
    Solution is three fold..
    1. Creating employment and growth in native state.
    2. Strict Law and order. Act as a deterrent for anti social elements.
    3. Creating a cultural bridge between two communities, inculcate toleration.

    Cultural clashes are inevitable...
    "Australia considers banning new immigrants from big cities for five years"
    Migrants also back bone of large cities in Australia, still resistance.
    Why बिहारी and up people are forced to do such low paying menial jobs,
    In rajinder Nagar they sleep on footpath, bath in open, drive cycles for whole day to earn some money.
    Because their native states have failed to provide even basic survivable jobs. They can't even ride rickshaw for a living because of low purchasing power.

    निष्काम कर्म
  • edited October 10
    Curse > Criminalization of politics.

    Solution > Ask Biharis to elect relatively better off leaders, gun men and Balu parsad yadavs should leave.

    I don't like to use demeaning phrases like "Jungle Raj".
  • edited October 10

    Curse > Criminalization of politics.

    Solution > Ask Biharis to elect relatively better off leaders, gun men and Balu parsad yadavs should leave.

    I don't like to use demeaning phrases like "Jungle Raj".



    Such a parochial way to looks at things Sorry but It seems u have been in some sort of coma with respect to the state of affairs of India especially the eastern part. The reason for this statement are:

    1)All those politicians/criminals that u can identify with the so called 'jungle raj' are either behind bar or are rendered insignificant

    2)An illiterate laborer of a north Indian state can't be treated as a flag-bearer of his/her state's reputation. His/Her misdeeds are the result of his ignorance of the law of the land as well as an act of being swayed away by wanton desire as a result of crude lifestyle and improper education

    3)There is a symbiotic relation between the employee and the employer in the industrially developed states of India. There is no way industries in Gujarat, Maharashtra can reap such good profits without the cheap labor supplied from the North. Localites from Gujarat and Maharashtra are not willing to do such menial job at such low rates as the northies manpower. Due to geographic/economic advantages........Industries are more suited to these area and country's manpower makes an exodus towards west coast. This happens in every part of the world ..... India is not alone.

    4)A wrongdoer should be identified as an unrefined Indian who should be taught a harsh lesson rather than being regionalised as a Bihari or UPites

    5)politicization of situation in Gujarat makes the whole situation even worse. If you can't do without Bihari laborer then try reforming the odd ones

    6)This problem is a viscous circle in which these lower class laborer are trapped. I will try to replicate it as follows::

    a) To nourish themselves and their families. laborer migrate in millions to Industrially developed states.

    b)he finds jobs at much lower rates (supply is more than demand) which supports him only to sustain himself and send some to the family.

    c)meager income forbids these laborer to maintain a family in their karmbhoomi. Without a family to satisfy spiritual, social, bodily needs, one in millions of these crude individuals might sometimes resort to illegal mode to satisfy themselves resulting in erosion of prestige of entire north Indian community.

    d) This loss of reputation is first followed by out-migration of laborers (due to political reasons) and then by in-migration to achieve an equilibrium results in renegotiation of wages and further downgrading of wages and the circle continues...........

  • edited October 11
    अभी तक हम समस्या की जड़ नहीं ढूंढ़ पाए है


    जो भी आप लोगों ने लिखा है सब फर्जी लगता है!!!!!! दो कमेंट्स छोड़कर क्योंकि इन सब चीजों को करके भी हम इस समस्या का समाधान नहीं कर पाएंगे। :|

    और ट्रोलर्स का तो क्या ही कहें........... इस थ्रेड को भी नहीं छोड़ा उन्होंने :(
  • अभी तक हम समस्या की जड़ नहीं ढूंढ़ पाए है


    जो भी आप लोगों ने लिखा है सब फर्जी लगता है!!!!!! दो कमेंट्स छोड़कर क्योंकि इन सब चीजों को करके भी हम इस समस्या का समाधान नहीं कर पाएंगे। :|

    और ट्रोलर्स का तो क्या ही कहें........... इस थ्रेड को भी नहीं छोड़ा उन्होंने :(

    Me troller nahi hu. :/

    I have highlighted the root cause of the issue.
    'Political will' is the driving force afa 'public policy' is concerned in a Democratic country like ours. What else can you expect if that "will" itself is corrupted?
  • Sanyasi said:

    Haalat chintazanak hai , desh me logo ko ab sadak par bhi dar lagne lga h, desh bhar me dalit mazdur shosit wanchit pidit kishan bujurg bacche or mahilao k sath amanaviye wywahaar kiye jate h.... Desh me hi kai sare ParDesh ban chuke hai... Logo ki mansikta sankuchit ho gyi hai ...Jaatiwadita Amiri garibi or kai tarah k bhedbhaw kiye ja the h..... Pdhe likhe log pareshan hote h or Nirakchar Balatkari wyabhichari atyachari log loktantra k mandir sansad me entry pate hai.....Logo ki antaraatma mar chuki hai insaniyat ka namonishan mit chuka hai... Ek bharat Shershta bharat to dur ki baat Ab Nagar Sahar Gawn Gali Mohhale me bhi bdi bdi concrete ki diware ban gyi h .... Logo ka naitik patan ho chuka hai...,.Anzerz chale gye Lekin Foot kro or raaz kro wali mansikta nhi gyi.... Desh ki Aazadi me Apna Sarwaswa Nyochawar krne wale Veer kranatkari Bhagat Singh Khudiram boss or Sampurn vishwa ko 'vasudhyev kutumbakam ka Path padhane wali bharat maa ki Aatma Aaz Sisak rhi hogi desh k es halaat par .....

    Aaz phir se hme swami Vivekananda Jee k btaye Margo or unke vicharo ko anusaran karne ki aawshyakta hai taki Manav ka Manav k parti Dya dharma or sadhbhawana ki deep jalti rahe.....

    Good Luck God bless you

    एकतरफा है आपका लेख और कुछ कॉन्क्रीट भी नहीं है आपने वहीं कहा है जो हर कोई कहता है

    आपको देश का महत्वपूर्ण पद(आईएएस) ऐसे ही नहीं दे दिया जायेगा अपना परसेप्शन बदलिये :)

    सकारात्मकता लाइए नहीं तो यह १३८ करोड़ लोगों की परेशानी का मोमेंटम आपको कितना भी विचलित और परेशान कर सकता है :|
  • Sanyasi said:

    Har koi yhi kah rha h to samsyaa or sacchai bhi to yhi h frnd jis se hum or aap inkaar nhi kar skte h

    Good luck god bless you

    Bhai He is facing #boss syndrome.. :wink:
  • Sanyasi said:

    Har koi yhi kah rha h to samsyaa or sacchai bhi to yhi h frnd jis se hum or aap inkaar nhi kar skte h

    Good luck god bless you

    Bhai He is facing #boss syndrome.. :wink:
    Please Refrain from trolling.
  • Sanyasi said:

    Har koi yhi kah rha h to samsyaa or sacchai bhi to yhi h frnd jis se hum or aap inkaar nhi kar skte h

    Good luck god bless you

    Bhai He is facing #boss syndrome.. :wink:
    :dizzy:
    initializing MIDI inputs and outputs ェ炎のーカ
  • edited October 11

    Disproportionate migration in any area will create problems.
    Solution is three fold..
    1. Creating employment and growth in native state.
    2. Strict Law and order. Act as a deterrent for anti social elements.
    3. Creating a cultural bridge between two communities, inculcate toleration.

    Cultural clashes are inevitable...
    "Australia considers banning new immigrants from big cities for five years"
    Migrants also back bone of large cities in Australia, still resistance.
    Why बिहारी and up people are forced to do such low paying menial jobs,
    In rajinder Nagar they sleep on footpath, bath in open, drive cycles for whole day to earn some money.
    Because their native states have failed to provide even basic survivable jobs. They can't even ride rickshaw for a living because of low purchasing power.

    Good one bhai :+1:
  • Bihar aur up wale apni Barbadi k liye khud hi zimmedar h, yeh khud hi ghatiya leaders ko election m elect karte h, to phir Kaha se inka development hoga.
    Sincerity, Dedication, Honesty
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