What is the Expected Cut off for UPSC Prelims 2017?

numerouno1

NCERT
now all the questions pertaining to the interpretation of indian constitution would be decided as per the relevant provisions of NCERT ... hadd hai bhai yar

comrade_stalin

I

Jo bhi legal ko support kar rha hai.... mujhe bas itna batao ki kaunsa source pade for knowing such ques for next pre (std sources like ncert and laxmi both say constitutional)

Refer Laxmikanth fundamental right chapter.. under other constitutional right it says right to vote is both constitutional nd legal right...

But in citizenship chapter it says constitutional right. Maine ncert nhi padi thi 9th class ki par ye chap + IE ka rajbala case ka article yaad tha so marked accordingly

Bhai maine Sriram ke polity ke printed notes padh rakhe the.... unhone bahut clearly likha tha ki adult suffrage provided by article 326 but Right to vote provided by RPA Act 1950.

abhinavdube

Jo bhi legal ko support kar rha hai.... mujhe bas itna batao ki kaunsa source pade for knowing such ques for next pre (std sources like ncert and laxmi both say constitutional)

Bhai logo ke hisaab se indiankanoon.org padho... ...rhi baat PUCL case ki 99.99% logo ko NOTA ke liye pata tha..i highly doubt ki usse right to vote ke liye padha hoga...
Ha agar vajiram ya sriram type coaching kabhi kabhi purane state pcs ya upsc questions discussion karte hai...sayad unke notes mein mile aise question...lekin agar state pcs ki key dekhoge to vo log mostly controversial questions ke do answer de dete hai...to usse keval confuse hoge....

sss_2503

I

Jo bhi legal ko support kar rha hai.... mujhe bas itna batao ki kaunsa source pade for knowing such ques for next pre (std sources like ncert and laxmi both say constitutional)

Refer Laxmikanth fundamental right chapter.. under other constitutional right it says right to vote is both constitutional nd legal right...

But in citizenship chapter it says constitutional right. Maine ncert nhi padi thi 9th class ki par ye chap + IE ka rajbala case ka article yaad tha so marked accordingly

Bhai maine Sriram ke polity ke printed notes padh rakhe the.... unhone bahut clearly likha tha ki adult suffrage provided by article 326 but Right to vote provided by RPA Act 1950.

Ok will buy those for next pre (if need arises)

abhinavdube

I

Jo bhi legal ko support kar rha hai.... mujhe bas itna batao ki kaunsa source pade for knowing such ques for next pre (std sources like ncert and laxmi both say constitutional)

Refer Laxmikanth fundamental right chapter.. under other constitutional right it says right to vote is both constitutional nd legal right...

But in citizenship chapter it says constitutional right. Maine ncert nhi padi thi 9th class ki par ye chap + IE ka rajbala case ka article yaad tha so marked accordingly

Bhai maine Sriram ke polity ke printed notes padh rakhe the.... unhone bahut clearly likha tha ki adult suffrage provided by article 326 but Right to vote provided by RPA Act 1950.

Ok will buy those for next pre (if need arises)

Lekin un notes ko update karte rehna kyoki SC ka pata nhi kab palat jaye aur tumhari lanka lag jaye...

arjunk

I

Jo bhi legal ko support kar rha hai.... mujhe bas itna batao ki kaunsa source pade for knowing such ques for next pre (std sources like ncert and laxmi both say constitutional)

Refer Laxmikanth fundamental right chapter.. under other constitutional right it says right to vote is both constitutional nd legal right...

But in citizenship chapter it says constitutional right. Maine ncert nhi padi thi 9th class ki par ye chap + IE ka rajbala case ka article yaad tha so marked accordingly

Bro. Don't worry about it. The constitution states in clear terms that Elections to the House of the People and to the Legislative Assemblies of States to be on the basis of adult suffrage

Suffrage in any English dictionary means giving the Right to vote.

It can be merely regulated by law.

The judgement posted here relates only to the second part of the question. Which is right to be elected. Nothing about right to vote.

It will depend purely on UPSC how it matches the two.

If last year is any indication, like for Masala bond, UPSC will take a broader look and go as per the constitutional provisions.

Let's just wait for another week or so.

sss_2503

I

Jo bhi legal ko support kar rha hai.... mujhe bas itna batao ki kaunsa source pade for knowing such ques for next pre (std sources like ncert and laxmi both say constitutional)

Refer Laxmikanth fundamental right chapter.. under other constitutional right it says right to vote is both constitutional nd legal right...

But in citizenship chapter it says constitutional right. Maine ncert nhi padi thi 9th class ki par ye chap + IE ka rajbala case ka article yaad tha so marked accordingly

Bhai maine Sriram ke polity ke printed notes padh rakhe the.... unhone bahut clearly likha tha ki adult suffrage provided by article 326 but Right to vote provided by RPA Act 1950.

Ok will buy those for next pre (if need arises)

Lekin un notes ko update karte rehna kyoki SC ka pata nhi kab palat jaye aur tumhari lanka lag jaye...

arjunk

But point is that article 326 does not give you right to vote.... it only says that criteria for elections could be universal adult suffarage... which means no other criteria shall be used... this has to be seen in historican sense when there were several criteria like communal electorate, property rights, educational criteria and so on... this bascically bans all those criteria.

I'm afraid you're the one who is factually incorrect now.

Let me put up the text of Article 326:

326. Elections to the House of the People and to the Legislative Assemblies of States to be on the basis of adult suffrage
The elections to the House of the People and to the Legislative Assembly of every State shall be on the basis of adult suffrage; but is to say, every person who is a citizen of India and who is not less than eighteen years of age on such date as may be fixed in that behalf by or under any law made by the appropriate legislature and is not otherwise disqualified under this constitution or any law made by the appropriate Legislature on the ground of non residence, unsoundness of mind, crime or corrupt or illegal practice, shall be entitled to be registered as a voter at any such election


It very clearly says 2 phrases:
"To be on the basis of" -- which means its not "could be", its a definite statement.
"Shall be entitled" to be registered as a voter -- and even with my limited knowledge of polity, i can safely say this is definitive as well.

Now, Adult suffrage does infact very much mean Right to Vote.
You can check wikipedia - but as many times when it doesn't suit us, we brush of wikipedia, check this:
http://www.elections.in/political-corner/universal-adult-suffrage/

Or for that matter any renowned dictionary:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/suffrage

You'll find suffrage means giving the right to vote.

But then again, as already pointed out, I don't seem to know basic polity, so you should re search the meaning on your own.

You conviniently missed this highlighted portion.

Right to voye is specifically mentioned in RPA 1951 article 62... refer attachment

Coming to that law mains question it specifically asks you whether RTV is fundamental or statutory.... so saying that it is none is bit far fetched.... they have used statutory becoz they consider it statutory.

I haven't missed any portion at all. Check the same page, I've commented just a few lines before that it's both constitutional and legal. But not fundamental in any way.

The highlighted portion was not relevant to the comment you wrote. Hence there was no point in me highlighting it.

The highlighted portion just means that the right can be regulated by law or the constitution itself. As has been done by RPA (legal) and by 61st CAA (constitutional)

You seem to have conveniently missed the earlier discussion, as well as detracted from the point. Which was to tell you what suffrage means and that it is definitive by the constitution.

Refer judgement i have quoted above... it is a jan 2017 judgements.... there are 15 otber such judgements.... except Rajbala all have said RTV to be legal including a 7 judge bench in 1951... Lets see if UPSC can overrule SC

Couldn't resist to say this.
The refered judgment doesn't even talk about right to vote.

abhinavdube

I

Jo bhi legal ko support kar rha hai.... mujhe bas itna batao ki kaunsa source pade for knowing such ques for next pre (std sources like ncert and laxmi both say constitutional)

Refer Laxmikanth fundamental right chapter.. under other constitutional right it says right to vote is both constitutional nd legal right...

But in citizenship chapter it says constitutional right. Maine ncert nhi padi thi 9th class ki par ye chap + IE ka rajbala case ka article yaad tha so marked accordingly

Bro. Don't worry about it. The constitution states in clear terms that Elections to the House of the People and to the Legislative Assemblies of States to be on the basis of adult suffrage

Suffrage in any English dictionary means giving the Right to vote.

It can be merely regulated by law.

The judgement posted here relates only to the second part of the question. Which is right to be elected. Nothing about right to vote.

It will depend purely on UPSC how it matches the two.

If last year is any indication, like for Masala bond, UPSC will take a broader look and go as per the constitutional provisions.

Let's just wait for another week or so.

Vaise ek baat hai pehle uppsc ne constitutional right hi diya tha answer lekin vo answer release kar deta hai prelimsresult se to logo ke protest kiya isliye usne baat mein constitutional and legal kar diya...lekin upsc to final result ke baad key release karta hai ...to agar usne bhi constitutional right diya uppsc ki tarah ...to bechare legal right vale kya kar lenge...SC ke paas jayenge...tab tak to final list bhi ban chuki hogi..,

numerouno1

I

Jo bhi legal ko support kar rha hai.... mujhe bas itna batao ki kaunsa source pade for knowing such ques for next pre (std sources like ncert and laxmi both say constitutional)

Refer Laxmikanth fundamental right chapter.. under other constitutional right it says right to vote is both constitutional nd legal right...

But in citizenship chapter it says constitutional right. Maine ncert nhi padi thi 9th class ki par ye chap + IE ka rajbala case ka article yaad tha so marked accordingly

Bro. Don't worry about it. The constitution states in clear terms that Elections to the House of the People and to the Legislative Assemblies of States to be on the basis of adult suffrage

Suffrage in any English dictionary means giving the Right to vote.

It can be merely regulated by law.

The judgement posted here relates only to the second part of the question. Which is right to be elected. Nothing about right to vote.

It will depend purely on UPSC how it matches the two.

If last year is any indication, like for Masala bond, UPSC will take a broader look and go as per the constitutional provisions.

Let's just wait for another week or so.

Vaise ek baat hai pehle uppsc ne constitutional right hi diya tha answer lekin vo answer release kar deta hai prelimsresult se to logo ke protest kiya isliye usne baat mein constitutional and legal kar diya...lekin upsc to final result ke baad key release karta hai ...to agar usne bhi constitutional right diya uppsc ki tarah ...to bechare legal right vale kya kar lenge...SC ke paas jayenge...tab tak to final list bhi ban chuki hogi..,

bhai bechare constitutional wale hone wale hai.... PIL dal dena aur NCERT quote kar dena waha bhi