I have seen moderators to be too strict with junta speaking the F word, aur saying even saala, or for that matter even something close to what we might not say in front of our parents.
Should such content be moderated with a line, "this is unbecoming of a civil servant"
Few points in favour of not moderating these things
1) first is free speech, article 19 says there can be reasonable restrictions but everyday in movies, local parlance we hear these words and since the censor board doesnt see them as a case for censuring why should they be censured here
2) these words are a part of culture, and helps one make his/her point.
3) on the point, unbecoming of a civil servant; name me one civil servant who doesnt use theae words (ab kejriwal mat bolna yaar, wo retire ho gaya hai). We have been socialised to be hypocrites. Every time we see such a word on forum we do "hawww", when everyday we ourselves use it
4) commercial reason- you might be losing out on orkut junta who will come to forumias but they like to express themselves
Views people?
[ Moderator note :
We at ForumIAS strive to maintain a certain level of decorum. Not everyone has to agree with our standards, but we know that our standards are correct and in keeping with good judgment.
As far as hypocrisy goes, you cannot compare posts on a public forum with informal closed-room chats. We expect people to be on the kind of behaviour here as they would be in any formal social setting.
As far as your cultural argument goes, your own writing has the underlying admission that there are certain words that are considered unparliamentary (not to be used in formal settings).
As far as Orkut users are concerned, we do not condone your assumption that they (as a distinct group) would like to use foul language. They are, and would remain, respected fellow members with no special distinction - identical in privileges to every other member of this forum.
We hope you would see our point.
Warm regards.
(sd/- @ArindamSarkar ) ]
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1.Art 19 is not an absolute right.I hope you understand.
2.India is multicultural country.Who will decide which culture is better than other.What is good in one religion is taboo in another religion and vice versa.Also we indians never use the slangs in front of our family members specially in front of female members.We are not yet fully Americanized.
3.There is no.correlation between using f word and becoming an ias officer.Using few slang wouldn't make you an ias or a good ias.
4. You are stereotyping orkut guys by saying that they cannot express themselves without using slangs.
In the end i wanna say bro "Responsibility is the price of freedom",so nothing is free in this world.
How many moderators posts would be given to orkutians if we shift here.
How mods are appointed here?
[ About a dozen or so. Nothing is "given" to anyone. Selection is by open nomination and an open vote with every member enfranchised, held if and when required (rarely).
(sd/- @ArindamSarkar ) ]
proportional representation by means of single transferable vote, but by open ballot.
The problem with moderation is that it is too difficult to decide where to draw the line. You talk about leniency, and see this is what happens when people are given even a little leeway. It will take no time for conversations to degenerate from saala to unspeakables.
http://forumias.com/discussion/comment/138563#Comment_138563
http://forumias.com/discussion/comment/138565#Comment_138565
http://forumias.com/discussion/comment/138546#Comment_138546
http://forumias.com/discussion/comment/138529#Comment_138529
In fact, look at the whole conversation going on here.
http://forumias.com/discussion/5100/speculation-upsc-prelims-2014-cutoff-and-other-discussions/p270
http://forumias.com/discussion/5100/speculation-upsc-prelims-2014-cutoff-and-other-discussions/p271
You think that moderators are being strict, I think they are being too lenient. Some people need not deserve to be here at all. And herein lies the dilemma, how much moderation is justified, because the perceptions of users differ so much.
I see far worse things going here which are not ethical than f words. Hypocrisy is evident from that.
@vkk i mentioned article 19, is not absolute and showed f words do not come under reasonable restrictions. Also you mention f word can't be spoken in front of family members specially females. First thing this forum is not a formal setting and second your comment was sexist
And i wasnt saying using slangs will make us ias officers but not making them would not in any way affect our chances
And i stereotyped Orkut guys, by saying they like to express themselves not by by saying they cant express themselves without abusing.
[ We don't define decorum. People aspiring to be civil servants are expected to know proper behaviour. Read the posting rules - it's clearly mentioned. We have no problem expressing ourselves without expletives. We hope everyone who joins us respects our sentiments.
(sd/- @ArindamSarkar ) ]
I dunno why regulation of such behaviour has stopped all of a sudden and a useless thread is being allowed to grow.
And lets not certify ourselves as ppl with great intellectual capability.
@Anic21 orkutisation? Such a bigot you are! Thinking Orkut people are inferior, such an ethnocentric view
[If not unconstitutional, it is definitely unparliamentary. So is 'stupid' if you are referring to someone you don't know personally-- friendly banter is different]
And what is this orkutisation?
and Mods, what is decorum?
@fist_of_fury mentions something about prescribed behaviour. What is that?