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UPSC PRELIMS 2017 Question Paper Discussion

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  • M on border line in CSAT paper 2.... plz solve this question of paper 2...its going to be decisive for me... dont use any coaching institutes answer key...use the logic and answer. plzz.





    isko karooo yaaar urgently.... plzzzzzzzz
  • https://books.google.co.in/books?id=oAo1X2eagywC&pg=PA189&lpg=PA189&dq=secretary+of+state+british+india+1927&source=bl&ots=-yI9y2dRY9&sig=GZk9GXu2K3M6IYLXXM0877sjEIY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizz97i2s7UAhVIuI8KHUMtCdkQ6AEIPzAF#v=onepage&q=secretary of state british india 1927&f=false


    Look at this one regarding Butler committee. It says the princely states should be transferred to British India and NOT to an Indian Government or (Government of India) as mentioned in the ALL the keys as well.

    Butler Committee report answer is NOT Indian states and Government of India.

    I think it's time to throw away spectrum and pick up Pearson General studies.
    At that time Government of India meant the Government of British India only. GoI Act 1919/1935 were not named as GoBI Acts.
    No other choices of the question is even close for Butler report.
    British India and Government of India are NOT the same. The source is CLEARLY stating that the states are NOT to be under any Indian Government that will be formed (Which is Government of India). It gives power to the Viceroy of India as the person responsible for states representing the crown. The option which states defining the power of secretary of state for India is the closest.
    yeh aya launda .....ek number bhaiii ...kahan se lae itna tagda zeher
    Ohhh Teri.... -2.66 humbly accepted!
    Harcourt Butler Committee A three -member committee headed by Harcourt Butler, appointed on December 16, 1927 to examine the relations between the native states and the paramount power, declined to define what paramountcy was but clearly and fortrightly stated that “paramountcy must remain paramount”. The committee fully endorsed that the viceroy, not the governor general should remain the Crown agent in dealing with the native states. In fact the right to protect includes right to internal intervention. Paramountcy is the supreme sovereign power which was kept above the reach of law and interpretation, to be exercised at the appropriate time subject to resiraints of morality and constitutional propriety against an erring ruler of a native statewhen other correctional means had proved to be futile. It is a concept developed into a deterrent in the political relation between the British and the Indian rulers
    http://www.gktoday.in/quiz-questions/with-reference-to-the-relations-of-the-princely-states-with-british-crown-which-among-the-following-report-said-that-paramountcy-must-remain-paramount/

    this shows it intend to define the jurisdiction of the Central and Provincial Governments





    How did you derive Central and Provincial logic from this? Thoda thoh socho yaar.



    no concept of indian states at that time ...only princely state and british indian states..it became tool for poltical intervention and gradually as detterent in relation between between the British and the Indian rulers..how come its ojective was to improve relations..stated object was to define paramountcy must remain paramount...
    as per insight..
    the link they have posted
    http://tinyurl.com/yatpetz2
    in which it clearly states relationship of british states with crown and not govt of india
    Bhai aisa tatti logic kaha se laate ho?
    see i have given the link as posted by insight in their solution..just go to the link where it clearly mention relationship with crown and not govt of india...
    tatti karte but tatti logic nahi lagate..

    Insight ko maaro goli.. seriously agar is exam ki prep Kar rhe ho to pehle NCEART and bipin Chandra padho
    brother..just tell me ..relationship of paramount power with princely states....does paramount power point to"govt of india"...no..it tried to refer to crown..

    http://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/butler-committee-1446456763-1
    please go to the link


  • https://books.google.co.in/books?id=oAo1X2eagywC&pg=PA189&lpg=PA189&dq=secretary+of+state+british+india+1927&source=bl&ots=-yI9y2dRY9&sig=GZk9GXu2K3M6IYLXXM0877sjEIY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizz97i2s7UAhVIuI8KHUMtCdkQ6AEIPzAF#v=onepage&q=secretary of state british india 1927&f=false


    Look at this one regarding Butler committee. It says the princely states should be transferred to British India and NOT to an Indian Government or (Government of India) as mentioned in the ALL the keys as well.

    Butler Committee report answer is NOT Indian states and Government of India.

    I think it's time to throw away spectrum and pick up Pearson General studies.
    At that time Government of India meant the Government of British India only. GoI Act 1919/1935 were not named as GoBI Acts.
    No other choices of the question is even close for Butler report.
    British India and Government of India are NOT the same. The source is CLEARLY stating that the states are NOT to be under any Indian Government that will be formed (Which is Government of India). It gives power to the Viceroy of India as the person responsible for states representing the crown. The option which states defining the power of secretary of state for India is the closest.
    yeh aya launda .....ek number bhaiii ...kahan se lae itna tagda zeher
    Ohhh Teri.... -2.66 humbly accepted!
    Harcourt Butler Committee A three -member committee headed by Harcourt Butler, appointed on December 16, 1927 to examine the relations between the native states and the paramount power, declined to define what paramountcy was but clearly and fortrightly stated that “paramountcy must remain paramount”. The committee fully endorsed that the viceroy, not the governor general should remain the Crown agent in dealing with the native states. In fact the right to protect includes right to internal intervention. Paramountcy is the supreme sovereign power which was kept above the reach of law and interpretation, to be exercised at the appropriate time subject to resiraints of morality and constitutional propriety against an erring ruler of a native statewhen other correctional means had proved to be futile. It is a concept developed into a deterrent in the political relation between the British and the Indian rulers
    http://www.gktoday.in/quiz-questions/with-reference-to-the-relations-of-the-princely-states-with-british-crown-which-among-the-following-report-said-that-paramountcy-must-remain-paramount/

    this shows it intend to define the jurisdiction of the Central and Provincial Governments





    How did you derive Central and Provincial logic from this? Thoda thoh socho yaar.



    no concept of indian states at that time ...only princely state and british indian states..it became tool for poltical intervention and gradually as detterent in relation between between the British and the Indian rulers..how come its ojective was to improve relations..stated object was to define paramountcy must remain paramount...
    as per insight..
    the link they have posted
    http://tinyurl.com/yatpetz2
    in which it clearly states relationship of british states with crown and not govt of india
    Bhai aisa tatti logic kaha se laate ho?
    see i have given the link as posted by insight in their solution..just go to the link where it clearly mention relationship with crown and not govt of india...
    tatti karte but tatti logic nahi lagate..

    Insight ko maaro goli.. seriously agar is exam ki prep Kar rhe ho to pehle NCEART and bipin Chandra padho
    brother..just tell me ..relationship of paramount power with princely states....does paramount power point to"govt of india"...no..it tried to refer to crown..

    http://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/butler-committee-1446456763-1
    please go to the link



    http://www.iasplanner.com/civilservices/ias-main/gs-model-answer-butler-committee-report-india
    It gave the following recommendations:
    Paramountcy must remain supreme.
    States should not be handed over to an Indian government in British India, responsible to an Indian Legislature.
    But it could be done with the consent of states.
    It must fulfill its obligation, adopting and defining itself according to the shifting necessities of time and progressive development of states.
    The viceroy was made the Crown’s agent in dealing with states.
    Thus, the committee left it yet undefined creating ambiguity, which was appointed to define paramountcy. This hydra-headed creature was left to feed on usage, crown’s prerogative and the princes implied consent. By this definition in the report princes were shocked. As a result they resorted to constitution of All India Union to save themselves from such vague concept of Paramountcy.
  • and ClearIAs says IVC people are aware of Horse.
  • 96) Which of the following are not necessarily the consequences of the proclamation of President’s rule in a State?
    1. Dissolution of the state legislative assembly
    2. Removal of the Council of Ministers in the State
    3. Dissolution of the Local bodies
    Select the correct answer using the code given below –
    (a) 1 and 2 only
    (b) 1 and 3 only
    (c) 2 and 3 only
    (d) 1, 2 and 3
    Answer: (b)


    Can somebody explain me the reasoning behind the answer of this question? Statement says “not necessarily the consequences of the proclamation of President’s rule in a State” i.e. these situations can arise even if President rule is not imposed. President’s rule is not necessary for these situations to arise.

    Now lets look at each option:
    1. – CM can ask the governor to dissolve the assembly, may be to conduct early elections President’s rule not necessary

    2. – If state budget does not get passed in the assembly, CoM will have to resign OR
    If no confidence motion is passed by State assembly, they are removed. In these examples, president’s rule doesn’t come into play.--> not necessary

    3. – Straightforward.-> not necessary

    Answer should be 1,2,3
  • Can somebody post vision IAS key please and CL for CSAT
  • https://books.google.co.in/books?id=oAo1X2eagywC&pg=PA189&lpg=PA189&dq=secretary+of+state+british+india+1927&source=bl&ots=-yI9y2dRY9&sig=GZk9GXu2K3M6IYLXXM0877sjEIY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizz97i2s7UAhVIuI8KHUMtCdkQ6AEIPzAF#v=onepage&q=secretary of state british india 1927&f=false


    Look at this one regarding Butler committee. It says the princely states should be transferred to British India and NOT to an Indian Government or (Government of India) as mentioned in the ALL the keys as well.

    Butler Committee report answer is NOT Indian states and Government of India.

    I think it's time to throw away spectrum and pick up Pearson General studies.
    most appropriate option d hai..wo exactly sahi Na bhi ho toh koi baat nahi

    At that time Government of India meant the Government of British India only. GoI Act 1919/1935 were not named as GoBI Acts.
    No other choices of the question is even close for Butler report.
    British India and Government of India are NOT the same. The source is CLEARLY stating that the states are NOT to be under any Indian Government that will be formed (Which is Government of India). It gives power to the Viceroy of India as the person responsible for states representing the crown. The option which states defining the power of secretary of state for India is the closest.
    yeh aya launda .....ek number bhaiii ...kahan se lae itna tagda zeher
    Ohhh Teri.... -2.66 humbly accepted!
    Harcourt Butler Committee A three -member committee headed by Harcourt Butler, appointed on December 16, 1927 to examine the relations between the native states and the paramount power, declined to define what paramountcy was but clearly and fortrightly stated that “paramountcy must remain paramount”. The committee fully endorsed that the viceroy, not the governor general should remain the Crown agent in dealing with the native states. In fact the right to protect includes right to internal intervention. Paramountcy is the supreme sovereign power which was kept above the reach of law and interpretation, to be exercised at the appropriate time subject to resiraints of morality and constitutional propriety against an erring ruler of a native statewhen other correctional means had proved to be futile. It is a concept developed into a deterrent in the political relation between the British and the Indian rulers
    http://www.gktoday.in/quiz-questions/with-reference-to-the-relations-of-the-princely-states-with-british-crown-which-among-the-following-report-said-that-paramountcy-must-remain-paramount/

    this shows it intend to define the jurisdiction of the Central and Provincial Governments





    How did you derive Central and Provincial logic from this? Thoda thoh socho yaar.



    no concept of indian states at that time ...only princely state and british indian states..it became tool for poltical intervention and gradually as detterent in relation between between the British and the Indian rulers..how come its ojective was to improve relations..stated object was to define paramountcy must remain paramount...
    as per insight..
    the link they have posted
    http://tinyurl.com/yatpetz2
    in which it clearly states relationship of british states with crown and not govt of india
    Bhai aisa tatti logic kaha se laate ho?
    see i have given the link as posted by insight in their solution..just go to the link where it clearly mention relationship with crown and not govt of india...
    tatti karte but tatti logic nahi lagate..

    Insight ko maaro goli.. seriously agar is exam ki prep Kar rhe ho to pehle NCEART and bipin Chandra padho
    brother..just tell me ..relationship of paramount power with princely states....does paramount power point to"govt of india"...no..it tried to refer to crown..

    http://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/butler-committee-1446456763-1
    please go to the link



    http://www.iasplanner.com/civilservices/ias-main/gs-model-answer-butler-committee-report-india
    It gave the following recommendations:
    Paramountcy must remain supreme.
    States should not be handed over to an Indian government in British India, responsible to an Indian Legislature.
    But it could be done with the consent of states.
    It must fulfill its obligation, adopting and defining itself according to the shifting necessities of time and progressive development of states.
    The viceroy was made the Crown’s agent in dealing with states.
    Thus, the committee left it yet undefined creating ambiguity, which was appointed to define paramountcy. This hydra-headed creature was left to feed on usage, crown’s prerogative and the princes implied consent. By this definition in the report princes were shocked. As a result they resorted to constitution of All India Union to save themselves from such vague concept of Paramountcy.
  • edited June 2017
    96) Which of the following are not necessarily the consequences of the proclamation of President’s rule in a State?
    1. Dissolution of the state legislative assembly
    2. Removal of the Council of Ministers in the State
    3. Dissolution of the Local bodies
    Select the correct answer using the code given below –
    (a) 1 and 2 only
    (b) 1 and 3 only
    (c) 2 and 3 only
    (d) 1, 2 and 3
    Answer: (b)


    Can somebody explain me the reasoning behind the answer of this question? Statement says “not necessarily the consequences of the proclamation of President’s rule in a State” i.e. these situations can arise even if President rule is not imposed. President’s rule is not necessary for these situations to arise.

    Now lets look at each option:
    1. – CM can ask the governor to dissolve the assembly, may be to conduct early elections President’s rule not necessary

    2. – If state budget does not get passed in the assembly, CoM will have to resign OR
    If no confidence motion is passed by State assembly, they are removed. In these examples, president’s rule doesn’t come into play.--> not necessary

    3. – Straightforward.-> not necessary

    Answer should be 1,2,3

    You misunderstood the question.It is asking which r not the necessary consequences if president rule is imposed in a state.

  • 96) Which of the following are not necessarily the consequences of the proclamation of President’s rule in a State?
    1. Dissolution of the state legislative assembly
    2. Removal of the Council of Ministers in the State
    3. Dissolution of the Local bodies
    Select the correct answer using the code given below –
    (a) 1 and 2 only
    (b) 1 and 3 only
    (c) 2 and 3 only
    (d) 1, 2 and 3
    Answer: (b)


    Can somebody explain me the reasoning behind the answer of this question? Statement says “not necessarily the consequences of the proclamation of President’s rule in a State” i.e. these situations can arise even if President rule is not imposed. President’s rule is not necessary for these situations to arise.

    Now lets look at each option:
    1. – CM can ask the governor to dissolve the assembly, may be to conduct early elections President’s rule not necessary

    2. – If state budget does not get passed in the assembly, CoM will have to resign OR
    If no confidence motion is passed by State assembly, they are removed. In these examples, president’s rule doesn’t come into play.--> not necessary

    3. – Straightforward.-> not necessary

    Answer should be 1,2,3

    You misunderstood the question.It is asking which r not the necessary consequences if president rule is imposed in a state.

    Or maybe you should read it again as it is saying that which of the following are not necessarily consequence of President's rule I.e. can be because of some other reason too.
  • 96) Which of the following are not necessarily the consequences of the proclamation of President’s rule in a State?
    1. Dissolution of the state legislative assembly
    2. Removal of the Council of Ministers in the State
    3. Dissolution of the Local bodies
    Select the correct answer using the code given below –
    (a) 1 and 2 only
    (b) 1 and 3 only
    (c) 2 and 3 only
    (d) 1, 2 and 3
    Answer: (b)


    Can somebody explain me the reasoning behind the answer of this question? Statement says “not necessarily the consequences of the proclamation of President’s rule in a State” i.e. these situations can arise even if President rule is not imposed. President’s rule is not necessary for these situations to arise.

    Now lets look at each option:
    1. – CM can ask the governor to dissolve the assembly, may be to conduct early elections President’s rule not necessary

    2. – If state budget does not get passed in the assembly, CoM will have to resign OR
    If no confidence motion is passed by State assembly, they are removed. In these examples, president’s rule doesn’t come into play.--> not necessary

    3. – Straightforward.-> not necessary

    Answer should be 1,2,3
    I also used the same logic....and answered D....but it seems the logic is not correct....proclamation of prez rule definitely means means COM will be dismissed for sure...while Assembly may or may not be dissolved...i got over enthusiastic at such an EASY(seemingly) question and answered D
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