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Hi All, First of all many thanks and gratitude to the many core teams members who have given more than 1 year to this movement. Somehow it didn’t materialize but it was fight worth fighting for.
By all means 2017 seems to be gone and I have absolutely no idea if the members would be looking for a chance in 2018. (If I have to give any personal suggestions then please do not and just carry on with your own lives). But in case anyone of you are still ready to strive for 2018, please read at your own risk:
Effectiveness of Core team members This core team (comprising Anand, Raghav and Surender and a few others ) have done more than enough). Simple because of the reason that they are the actual aspirants and not someone with any political motivations/inclinations. If someone can still get us attempts then these are the only ones.
Inclusion of popular figures in the movement If someone wants to get involved they are more than welcome but not at the cost of the core team members. Non aspirants would be first ones to leave the movement with the first sign of failure. Let us not give the command of our future to them.
Demand for increasing age limit to 35: Never ever this demand will be conceded by the Govt. I repeat, no political party will ever concede. There is only a minimal chance (even if there is any) for an compensatory extra attempt on lieu of the CSAT fiasco. All the UPSC aspirants were given 2 extra attempts by Rahul in 2012 but we all know how Congress fared in 2014 general elections. CAST issue become a political one wherein the hindi medium students were mainly effected. Govt has already rectified the same and our demand should be compensatory attempts for the years that we have lost in the CSAT era.
Election wins by BJP: It is an irrelevant factor. We never had such a huge protesting numbers which could have resulted in political setback. Neither their win or loss could have any possible effects in our attempts. Continuous efforts : The biggest protest that we had was on 10th Jan and then there was a lull till the week before notification. Even after the failure of 2016 the protests for 2017 started a late around December. If we have to target for 2018, then it has to be now. Let us strive for 3-4 months and gets a confirmed assurance and then move on to achieve what we all aspire.
Sporadic protests now and then We have done almost 35 protests till now along with a 55 days hunger strike with no positive results. The only thing that can get us attempts are : 1. Intensive lobbying 2. Asking any of MPs (either Rajya / Lok Sabha ) to raise our issue in the parliament . (We can gather support by collecting letters as has been done in the past well but this would just be an evidence in case we need to present our case to Media/National leaders). 3. A 15 min personal meeting with PM/Amit Shah This is the most difficult part and might take months before something like this can be arranged. But if it can be done, this would be most effective. 5. It will be a definite boon if we can somehow connect with one of the national leaders and ask him/her to lend us their support.
Numbers in ground Not everyone who would be gaining from this movement will not come to the protests. Let us accept this fact and build our strategy accordingly. People who are not able to come to Delhi might be able to assist financially as they have done so in the past.
Free riders: There will always be people who would be present in Delhi but won’t come. Some might be financially sound but may not contribute at all. Let us not worry about them but focus and associate with the people who are able to contribute in any possible constructive way.
Social Media: Can be used more effectively as done in the recent past wherein there was a huge retweets (courtesy @AbhiDI). Social media can be also used for effective communication with media/aspirants as well.
Thanks.
God!!! After over 4000 comments it is the best assessment, especially the two points: - 1. Demand for increasing age limit to 35:Never ever this demand will be conceded by the Govt and 2. Election wins by BJP: It is an irrelevant factor
Why can't they understand that when the same BJP government granted an extra attempt for 2015 in August 2014.. it was in no way in a weak position politically..... Compared to August 2014, it was in much more precarious position in 2015 November when it faced 2nd comprehensive drubbing in Bihar after Delhi.
Gandhain thoughts ka overdose ho gaya h lagta h ...2017 h bhai log dimag ko reboot kara lo ..,understand what is working ...khali bookish gyan aur logic se kuch nai hone wala
Guys, nothing is going to happen now, I request that this thread be closed now, move on guys, pcs Dekho up me Iss baar full maj me bjp aayi Hai kya pata agle saal usme bhi age reduces ho jaye
@GetReal : kindly dont use such downmarket words such as sala nd all. This thread is meant for discussion. I had presentd my point of view. If u disagree wid it kindly do so bt choose ur words carefully. Just bcoz u hv been gven a platform doesnt mean u will put down others if ur view doesnt match wid theirs. V r all preparing for upsc civil services so i suppose by nw one should be able to present their thoughts in a civilised manner rather thn using words such as sala nd all.
Dil pe na lo Sg1... bura na mano Holi hai ...Jogira sa ra ra ra.. Bro dont be so touchy on the refinement of language ..please get the content and appreciate .If you are a gal please make a feminie id. I dont want a platform I want to sit in the train too to reach my goal ..please give me the ticket. Sala is not so downmarket btw.. if you want to addressed in a upmarket manner so be it ...manyvar mahoday kripya naraz na ho aap IAS kabhi ban jao to aap bahut bade babu ho jaoge aur hum jaise aspirants aapko victorian english me hi address karenge ..hume bhool na jana ...savinay nivedan hai ...
Its high time we realise that howsoever strong the movement might be the possibility of attempt is unthinkable unless we strike the right cord.See folks csat victimisation is a dead issue now There have been 2 compensatory attempts for this (although given for mains exam change). Hence now focus on abrupt removal of csat which took everyone by surprise because we all used to focus on paper 2 of csat to get through prelims.As far as govt logic that syllabus has been reduced,we know its faulry because you need to restrategise the whole prelims preparation. Every committee has recommended (Even Baswan )that sufficient time must be given to all aspirants to cope up with the changes,called lead time. Hence strike the right cord and ask to sympathetically grant 1 attempt.Now who told csat was bad????EH..NOBODY DUDE.
Demand for increase in age limit.Demand for one compensatory attempt is baseless.even group b c job has aptitude. You are aspiring for Group A and you are saying CSAT discriminatory?how funny!!!many of the core team members are from IIT/IIM and many of the so called aggrieved people have written mains multiple time So change your demand for increase in age limit
Demand for increase in age limit.Demand for one compensatory attempt is baseless.even group b c job has aptitude. You are aspiring for Group A and you are saying CSAT discriminatory?how funny!!!many of the core team members are from IIT/IIM and many of the so called aggrieved people have written mains multiple time So change your demand for increase in age limit
Csat was removed abruptly that too without any expert committee recommendations.all commissions have told that a "lead time" should be given for any changes in exam pattern..then why sudden removal of a paper??Thats how 1 attempt fits in.Age increase..bhai kyun majaak karte ho!!
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1. Demand for increasing age limit to 35:Never ever this demand will be conceded by the Govt and
2. Election wins by BJP: It is an irrelevant factor
Why can't they understand that when the same BJP government granted an extra attempt for 2015 in August 2014.. it was in no way in a weak position politically.....
Compared to August 2014, it was in much more precarious position in 2015 November when it faced 2nd comprehensive drubbing in Bihar after Delhi.
Bro dont be so touchy on the refinement of language ..please get the content and appreciate .If you are a gal please make a feminie id.
I dont want a platform I want to sit in the train too to reach my goal ..please give me the ticket.
Sala is not so downmarket btw.. if you want to addressed in a upmarket manner so be it ...manyvar mahoday kripya naraz na ho aap IAS kabhi ban jao to aap bahut bade babu ho jaoge aur hum jaise aspirants aapko victorian english me hi address karenge ..hume bhool na jana ...savinay nivedan hai ...
Hence now focus on abrupt removal of csat which took everyone by surprise because we all used to focus on paper 2 of csat to get through prelims.As far as govt logic that syllabus has been reduced,we know its faulry because you need to restrategise the whole prelims preparation.
Every committee has recommended (Even Baswan )that sufficient time must be given to all aspirants to cope up with the changes,called lead time.
Hence strike the right cord and ask to sympathetically grant 1 attempt.Now who told csat was bad????EH..NOBODY DUDE.
So change your demand for increase in age limit