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Hi All, First of all many thanks and gratitude to the many core teams members who have given more than 1 year to this movement. Somehow it didn’t materialize but it was fight worth fighting for.
By all means 2017 seems to be gone and I have absolutely no idea if the members would be looking for a chance in 2018. (If I have to give any personal suggestions then please do not and just carry on with your own lives). But in case anyone of you are still ready to strive for 2018, please read at your own risk:
Effectiveness of Core team members This core team (comprising Anand, Raghav and Surender and a few others ) have done more than enough). Simple because of the reason that they are the actual aspirants and not someone with any political motivations/inclinations. If someone can still get us attempts then these are the only ones.
Inclusion of popular figures in the movement If someone wants to get involved they are more than welcome but not at the cost of the core team members. Non aspirants would be first ones to leave the movement with the first sign of failure. Let us not give the command of our future to them.
Demand for increasing age limit to 35: Never ever this demand will be conceded by the Govt. I repeat, no political party will ever concede. There is only a minimal chance (even if there is any) for an compensatory extra attempt on lieu of the CSAT fiasco. All the UPSC aspirants were given 2 extra attempts by Rahul in 2012 but we all know how Congress fared in 2014 general elections. CAST issue become a political one wherein the hindi medium students were mainly effected. Govt has already rectified the same and our demand should be compensatory attempts for the years that we have lost in the CSAT era.
Election wins by BJP: It is an irrelevant factor. We never had such a huge protesting numbers which could have resulted in political setback. Neither their win or loss could have any possible effects in our attempts. Continuous efforts : The biggest protest that we had was on 10th Jan and then there was a lull till the week before notification. Even after the failure of 2016 the protests for 2017 started a late around December. If we have to target for 2018, then it has to be now. Let us strive for 3-4 months and gets a confirmed assurance and then move on to achieve what we all aspire.
Sporadic protests now and then We have done almost 35 protests till now along with a 55 days hunger strike with no positive results. The only thing that can get us attempts are : 1. Intensive lobbying 2. Asking any of MPs (either Rajya / Lok Sabha ) to raise our issue in the parliament . (We can gather support by collecting letters as has been done in the past well but this would just be an evidence in case we need to present our case to Media/National leaders). 3. A 15 min personal meeting with PM/Amit Shah This is the most difficult part and might take months before something like this can be arranged. But if it can be done, this would be most effective. 5. It will be a definite boon if we can somehow connect with one of the national leaders and ask him/her to lend us their support.
Numbers in ground Not everyone who would be gaining from this movement will not come to the protests. Let us accept this fact and build our strategy accordingly. People who are not able to come to Delhi might be able to assist financially as they have done so in the past.
Free riders: There will always be people who would be present in Delhi but won’t come. Some might be financially sound but may not contribute at all. Let us not worry about them but focus and associate with the people who are able to contribute in any possible constructive way.
Social Media: Can be used more effectively as done in the recent past wherein there was a huge retweets (courtesy @AbhiDI). Social media can be also used for effective communication with media/aspirants as well.
Baswan committee ka review ho rha hai.usme CSAT n exam main pattern change ka issue bhi mentioned hai.agar next 1 month lobbying ki jaye to shayad mercy ground pe 2018 main attempt mil jaye.
Actually i agree that the demand to make the age 35 is not feasible. There is a need to change the entire language of this campaign.
Most people who have turned or are nearing 35 have moved on in life, with jobs, marriage and kids. They neither have the time nor the energy to follow this movt or study anymore. Keeping the life span of Indians in mind, half their life is already over.
It's also a silly demand because all the committees have suggested reduction in age. Govt DOESNOT want old people. An increase in age for general category may not be that big a problem, the problem is that it will mean a subsequent increase in the age of other categories. Anyways only 300-350/1000 real general category candidates make it to the final list. If age was increased for all the categories, general wouldn't end up even with this much (reason that out on your own).
Thirdly, asking to increase the age by a few senior aspirants doesn't exactly evoke the feeling "ohhh, they have been denied justice", it evokes "how pathetic!!!". The only sentimental plank we have got is that rural, languages and humanities students have been denied justice during csat. And that is the truth. The protest should be for csat victims, not to demand an overhaul in an otherwise well functioning system.
Anybody who thinks 35 should be the limit, doesn't realise that there is an entire new generation of candidates who graduated 5-6 yrs after us. Lacs of them. They have got their act together, UPSC has got its act together. The world is functioning as it should. Nobody wants to increase age limit, because it would cause inconvenience to these two groups.
I think, the language of the campaign should be "compensation of attempts to 2011-14 attemptees" no matter what their age is right now. NOT "extra attempts". It would mean only those people who suffered due to csat in these yrs should be compensated, nobody else. This is the only way govt may even remotely consider it.
And lastly, I think, this a ripe time for Congress to get an issue. Running after abvp is a waste of time, they are already bathing in power, why would they make an effort now.
By logic no attempts should be acceptable by government. We want increase in age till 35 . if not we will have a viraat uprising . We dont care who thinks what we just want our demands met . If it is not against constitution we want it.It is government duty to find out ways it is not ours we just want our demands met.
Our demand should have been to grant compensatory attempt to only those candiates who have appeared between 2011 to 2014 irrespective of their age bcoz those who appeared in these years were never ever compensated instead evryone was granted 6 attempts they didnt even realise that those who wasted their attempts between 2011 nd 2014 were nt gven compensatory attempts. The 2 extra attempts were gven to all whether they appeared in those years or not. Atleast those students who apeared in those years should be gven atleast one compensatory attempt. Nd no government will increase d age to 35 aksing the govt to do so will only weaken our stand. What v r asking fr is our ryt. Our ryt as those students who faced problems bcoz of the experimemts done by upsc in the form of csat. Even upsc realised its mistake nd thus made it a qualifying paper. We did nt gt justice. Nd evn if the movement has less number of people so what, justice should not be denied to even a single person.
who is this Sg1 .....sala GK update nahi karte ho kya ...Irom Sharmila ka halat nahi dekha kya ..100 se bhi kum votes mile use...Justice to single person ki baat karta hai in a political movement !! are mere pyare bhole bhai log ...at least earn yourself a meeting where you can put forth your points ..,at least get a movement worth noticing ..kuch to aam junta ka demand ka khayal karo ..35 age maang rahe h koi India ko tod kar Azaadi to nahi mang rahe ..
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I completely agree
Most people who have turned or are nearing 35 have moved on in life, with jobs, marriage and kids. They neither have the time nor the energy to follow this movt or study anymore.
Keeping the life span of Indians in mind, half their life is already over.
It's also a silly demand because all the committees have suggested reduction in age. Govt DOESNOT want old people. An increase in age for general category may not be that big a problem, the problem is that it will mean a subsequent increase in the age of other categories. Anyways only 300-350/1000 real general category candidates make it to the final list. If age was increased for all the categories, general wouldn't end up even with this much (reason that out on your own).
Thirdly, asking to increase the age by a few senior aspirants doesn't exactly evoke the feeling "ohhh, they have been denied justice", it evokes "how pathetic!!!". The only sentimental plank we have got is that rural, languages and humanities students have been denied justice during csat. And that is the truth. The protest should be for csat victims, not to demand an overhaul in an otherwise well functioning system.
Anybody who thinks 35 should be the limit, doesn't realise that there is an entire new generation of candidates who graduated 5-6 yrs after us. Lacs of them. They have got their act together, UPSC has got its act together. The world is functioning as it should. Nobody wants to increase age limit, because it would cause inconvenience to these two groups.
I think, the language of the campaign should be "compensation of attempts to 2011-14 attemptees" no matter what their age is right now. NOT "extra attempts". It would mean only those people who suffered due to csat in these yrs should be compensated, nobody else. This is the only way govt may even remotely consider it.
And lastly, I think, this a ripe time for Congress to get an issue. Running after abvp is a waste of time, they are already bathing in power, why would they make an effort now.
We want increase in age till 35 . if not we will have a viraat uprising .
We dont care who thinks what we just want our demands met .
If it is not against constitution we want it.It is government duty to find out ways it is not ours we just want our demands met.
are mere pyare bhole bhai log ...at least earn yourself a meeting where you can put forth your points ..,at least get a movement worth noticing ..kuch to aam junta ka demand ka khayal karo ..35 age maang rahe h koi India ko tod kar Azaadi to nahi mang rahe ..