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Just got an update from someone following the core group closely that hopes are there till 9th march. Can anyone clarify what is the significance of the date? I asked that person but he didn't respond.
And the other thing I got to know is that the defence from DoPT for not agreeing for extra attempts is that they have already given two extra attempts. The grievance letter stated the years of 2011 to 2015 as the problematic years because of frequent changes. In 2014 they granted 2 attempts. They are saying there was no change in 2012 and 2014 while the change of 2011 was intimated long back and not as late as the 2013 change. All these points are reportedly quoted by DoPT for rejecting our demand.
Now I don't know whether these have been discussed long back. I don't have any idea about Pankaj or Nilotpal. Just wanted to know what are the counter arguments from our side and whether the presence of Nilotpal can counter the logic given by DoPT and make them agree. And a very famous and reliable insider of forum and orkut who has kickass connections in DoPT also told me the same thing. He told the core team has so far not given satisfactory response to this view point of DoPT and categorically denied success for us as long as this is not addressed by the core group.
Kindly don't abuse me. I just got to know what I heard. Please clarify if I'm wrong.
P.S. - I'm also one of those guys languising in Chennai after having exhausted all attempts. While I am recovering from Mains 2016 shock by focussing on IFoS, my heart is still in this.
The simple argument should be that CSAT was in effect for four years. When the government agreed in 2015 that it was a discriminatory paper, the total relief should have been for four years (equal to the number of years this was in place). In fact this should have been demanded in 2015 itself when the movement was in its prime.
The total number of change years were also three - 2011 (CSAT introduced), 2013 (Mains pattern changed) and 2015 (CSAT removed). Even by that logic the total relief should have been three years.
Friends, As u can all see ,in this hour of do and die situation we need some big course corrections. A nontransparent secretive movement with all kinds of leaders and core has failed all of us . For whole two years we tried but could not get any success. Nevertheless , it's not a time to pinpoint all those useless harmful stories. It's time to be united again and do some course correction. First most important thing is that we need to make this movement broadband. Second we need to Raise the bar high. Towards these ends following group has been created. Plz join and share the group everywhere where u hv reach. Mind it even less educated people launch movements and protests and get success. We are toh all top class bright minds of the nation. We just need unity and self confidence
@^^^^^ Why dont you use one of the old groups for it...there are already 3 groups for the same purpose..merge all of them and create a grand alliance of all.
Just got an update from someone following the core group closely that hopes are there till 9th march. Can anyone clarify what is the significance of the date? I asked that person but he didn't respond.
And the other thing I got to know is that the defence from DoPT for not agreeing for extra attempts is that they have already given two extra attempts. The grievance letter stated the years of 2011 to 2015 as the problematic years because of frequent changes. In 2014 they granted 2 attempts. They are saying there was no change in 2012 and 2014 while the change of 2011 was intimated long back and not as late as the 2013 change. All these points are reportedly quoted by DoPT for rejecting our demand.
Now I don't know whether these have been discussed long back. I don't have any idea about Pankaj or Nilotpal. Just wanted to know what are the counter arguments from our side and whether the presence of Nilotpal can counter the logic given by DoPT and make them agree. And a very famous and reliable insider of forum and orkut who has kickass connections in DoPT also told me the same thing. He told the core team has so far not given satisfactory response to this view point of DoPT and categorically denied success for us as long as this is not addressed by the core group.
Kindly don't abuse me. I just got to know what I heard. Please clarify if I'm wrong.
P.S. - I'm also one of those guys languising in Chennai after having exhausted all attempts. While I am recovering from Mains 2016 shock by focussing on IFoS, my heart is still in this.
Our counter argument shd be that the govt itself accepted that CSAT was discriminatory.Govt. provided extra attempts in 2014 but csat was removed only in 2015.They wasted our 4 years.
And at last DOPT ka kya ja raha hai ek attempt dene se.Ek chance hi toh maang rahe hai
@^^^^^ Why dont you use one of the old groups for it...there are already 3 groups for the same purpose..merge all of them and create a grand alliance of all.
Yaar ilaychee bhai ..jo aj tak merge nahin hue,unke kaise merge kar lega wo ?
Mai jaanta hu Anil Shukla ko...... roj Mukherjeenagar me mulakaat bhi hoti hi unse..... aapko Jo bhi question poochne hai jaiye wahi jakar poochiye... AGAR AAP ASALI WALE PITAJEE KI AULAAD HAIN.... toh kuch samay to bitaiye BATRA pe..
Bhai log attempt to Gaya ab tel Lene.aur hum log Ko attempt na Milne ka dosh sirf anil Shukla name ke vyakti Ko jata he.ye admi lead kabhi bhi karta he ye mislead karta he.10 January ke protest ke bad is admi ne ek protest nhi hone diya.sabse ANIL SHUKLA ne bola ki maharaj kaam ho rha he.21 ke protest ke bad bhi bola ki kaam ho rha he.meeting hui he gov ki .Next day notification ane ke bad bhi bol rha tha ki kaam ho rha he.isne pure movement Ko manage kia he .Kisi bhi mass leader Ko involve nhi hone diya kyunki ye credit ke bhuke hain.roj Batra pe sare India se logon Ko bulate hain aur jo bhi 2 ghante main India ke kone kone se Batra na pahuch paye use WhatsApp pe gali dete hain ,humiliate karta hai jaise movement iski bapoti ho.shukla ji ABVP se bat karte the.ab kya bat Hoti kabhi pata nhi chala.aur Sabse bolta ki kaam ho rha he.kaam ho rha he bol ke Jane sabka kaam tamam kar diya.ab log isse puch the ki bhai kaam kyun nhi hua to ye vyakti bhaag Gaya.BHAI LOG AP LOG SHAYAD SHUKLA KO NHI JANTE HONGE PAR SARA MOVEMENT FAIL HONE KA RESPONSIBILITY SHUKLA KI HAI AUR ISSE PUCHIYE KI ISNE HUM SAB KO DHOKA KYUN DIYA?
Mai jaanta hu Anil Shukla ko...... roj Mukherjeenagar me mulakaat bhi hoti hi unse..... aapko Jo bhi question poochne hai jaiye wahi jakar poochiye... AGAR AAP ASALI WALE PITAJEE KI AULAAD HAIN.... toh kuch samay to bitaiye BATRA pe..
Bhai log attempt to Gaya ab tel Lene.aur hum log Ko attempt na Milne ka dosh sirf anil Shukla name ke vyakti Ko jata he.ye admi lead kabhi bhi karta he ye mislead karta he.10 January ke protest ke bad is admi ne ek protest nhi hone diya.sabse ANIL SHUKLA ne bola ki maharaj kaam ho rha he.21 ke protest ke bad bhi bola ki kaam ho rha he.meeting hui he gov ki .Next day notification ane ke bad bhi bol rha tha ki kaam ho rha he.isne pure movement Ko manage kia he .Kisi bhi mass leader Ko involve nhi hone diya kyunki ye credit ke bhuke hain.roj Batra pe sare India se logon Ko bulate hain aur jo bhi 2 ghante main India ke kone kone se Batra na pahuch paye use WhatsApp pe gali dete hain ,humiliate karta hai jaise movement iski bapoti ho.shukla ji ABVP se bat karte the.ab kya bat Hoti kabhi pata nhi chala.aur Sabse bolta ki kaam ho rha he.kaam ho rha he bol ke Jane sabka kaam tamam kar diya.ab log isse puch the ki bhai kaam kyun nhi hua to ye vyakti bhaag Gaya.BHAI LOG AP LOG SHAYAD SHUKLA KO NHI JANTE HONGE PAR SARA MOVEMENT FAIL HONE KA RESPONSIBILITY SHUKLA KI HAI AUR ISSE PUCHIYE KI ISNE HUM SAB KO DHOKA KYUN DIYA?
Anil shukla mil jayega Gopal dairy ,Bhai Parmanand Colony se Mukherjee Nagar ke raaste me .mil sakte ho. So called link bw group and RSS.
@^^^^^ Why dont you use one of the old groups for it...there are already 3 groups for the same purpose..merge all of them and create a grand alliance of all.
Just got an update from someone following the core group closely that hopes are there till 9th march. Can anyone clarify what is the significance of the date? I asked that person but he didn't respond.
And the other thing I got to know is that the defence from DoPT for not agreeing for extra attempts is that they have already given two extra attempts. The grievance letter stated the years of 2011 to 2015 as the problematic years because of frequent changes. In 2014 they granted 2 attempts. They are saying there was no change in 2012 and 2014 while the change of 2011 was intimated long back and not as late as the 2013 change. All these points are reportedly quoted by DoPT for rejecting our demand.
Now I don't know whether these have been discussed long back. I don't have any idea about Pankaj or Nilotpal. Just wanted to know what are the counter arguments from our side and whether the presence of Nilotpal can counter the logic given by DoPT and make them agree. And a very famous and reliable insider of forum and orkut who has kickass connections in DoPT also told me the same thing. He told the core team has so far not given satisfactory response to this view point of DoPT and categorically denied success for us as long as this is not addressed by the core group.
Kindly don't abuse me. I just got to know what I heard. Please clarify if I'm wrong.
P.S. - I'm also one of those guys languising in Chennai after having exhausted all attempts. While I am recovering from Mains 2016 shock by focussing on IFoS, my heart is still in this.
The simple argument should be that CSAT was in effect for four years. When the government agreed in 2015 that it was a discriminatory paper, the total relief should have been for four years (equal to the number of years this was in place). In fact this should have been demanded in 2015 itself when the movement was in its prime.
The total number of change years were also three - 2011 (CSAT introduced), 2013 (Mains pattern changed) and 2015 (CSAT removed). Even by that logic the total relief should have been three years.
Thus 1-2 compensatory attempts are only logical.
nice argument abhidi.... it holds ground... or else if u have a calibrator, atleast grant as many as attempts as loosed by candidates individually....
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The total number of change years were also three - 2011 (CSAT introduced), 2013 (Mains pattern changed) and 2015 (CSAT removed). Even by that logic the total relief should have been three years.
Thus 1-2 compensatory attempts are only logical.
Friends,
As u can all see ,in this hour of do and die situation we need some big course corrections.
A nontransparent secretive movement with all kinds of leaders and core has failed all of us . For whole two years we tried but could not get any success.
Nevertheless , it's not a time to pinpoint all those useless harmful stories.
It's time to be united again and do some course correction.
First most important thing is that we need to make this movement broadband.
Second we need to Raise the bar high.
Towards these ends following group has been created. Plz join and share the group everywhere where u hv reach.
Mind it even less educated people launch movements and protests and get success. We are toh all top class bright minds of the nation.
We just need unity and self confidence
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1285789208167535?refid=18&ref=bookmarks&__tn__=C
Why dont you use one of the old groups for it...there are already 3 groups for the same purpose..merge all of them and create a grand alliance of all.
And at last DOPT ka kya ja raha hai ek attempt dene se.Ek chance hi toh maang rahe hai
Yaar ilaychee bhai ..jo aj tak merge nahin hue,unke kaise merge kar lega wo ?
Mai jaanta hu Anil Shukla ko...... roj Mukherjeenagar me mulakaat bhi hoti hi unse.....
aapko Jo bhi question poochne hai jaiye wahi jakar poochiye...
AGAR AAP ASALI WALE PITAJEE KI AULAAD HAIN.... toh kuch samay to bitaiye BATRA pe..
Sorry .was unable to rename earlier.