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@scoobydoo , Aren't you being presumptuous again? Hate can be a matter of degrees, it can be transient and it can definitely be restricted to one individual. To suggest something to the effect that if I hate Modi I'll end up hating his entire community is ridiculous to say the least.
As for your second point, it is Modi fans themselves who are proud to be called so ,they wear their love for him on their sleeves and they take pride in that identity whereas when have I or any other Modi critic over here ever mentioned that he/ she is a leftist or a congress supporter? and yet all of us are clubbed together as if it is implied. Also don't you think instead of our hate it is their love for him that is akin to faith? Heck, faith does not even begin to cover it, more like a religious cult if you ask me.
oh i meant it in disjointed sense when i said hating a person , group , class , community . though sometimes it progresses in this order. If a PM of a country visits many countries and garners goodwill , how is it that this is projected as him vacationing abroad ! For a sane , rational person this inference is hilarious to say the least . But for somebody who hates him enough this is a convincing point of outrage.
Do u think me or anybody who is opposing Modi doesnt know DAT Modi is trying to get investment from abroad!! Nobody is criticising his foreign tours! But he is killing intellect and freedom and making society extremely polar and fractioned! No amount of investments can change a country faith if its resources or people r nT up to the mark!just go thru comments by modi fanatics made above! People whose thought process and language is so low do u think they ll tk this country ahead!!
Some guys are openly talking nonsense about other religions and making commentries which will put even fanatics to shame
the problem with leftists like u is that u choose to conveniently ignore some facts n highlight others. For eg u will ignore the fatwas issued against salman rushdie n taslima nasrin but will shout ur lungs out to espouse cause of MF Hussain. Medieval history will be shown as rosy n enlightened age (which is absolutely wrong) and ancient history will be shown as barbaric,backward age. U don't have guts to withstand extremism of a certain religion. this is what we call as pseudo secularism n minority appeasement.
I have read english translation of quran n let me tell u that it is nothing short of a hate literature. please go through it to believe me (I can even debate with maulanas on quran). Sane n moderate voices among muslims r microscopic minority. Arif mohd khan , union minister of rajiv gandhi resigned to protest rajiv gandhi's stand on shah bano case. Today he is politically redundant. whereas owaisi brothers who abuse hindu gods n give a clarion call for genocide win by lakhs of votes. Go through the speeches of zakir naik to get further clarity.
Ask any police personnel. They cann't enter in muslim dominted areas in their uniform. They r forced to retreat if at all they go to catch some criminal.Eg- batla house encounter, darbhanga module of Indian mujahideen.
muslims r different from the rest of the religions. They want to turn the clock back to medievalism. If there is islamophobia then that is due to islamophilia. It's a clash of civilisations where our ideology is on a quest to save humanity.
I was also a marxist in my college days brainwashed by the hindu , bipan chandra ,romila thapar et al but slowly when the mirage started fading, realities crept in. Now I feel at peace in worshipping gods, eulogising my country n my culture. :-bd
@Etat please consider the above comment for suitable action at your end.
Targeting holy scriptures? Isn't that objectionable?
No. Let it be. He has once gone wrong with the partition figures. I was able to correct that only because it was not censored.
What u quoted was a classic case of yellow journalism. Quote some historian n not a journalist.All my figures r completely right (source - RC majumdar) . I cann't find it's e-version on net
@scoobydoo , Aren't you being presumptuous again? Hate can be a matter of degrees, it can be transient and it can definitely be restricted to one individual. To suggest something to the effect that if I hate Modi I'll end up hating his entire community is ridiculous to say the least.
As for your second point, it is Modi fans themselves who are proud to be called so ,they wear their love for him on their sleeves and they take pride in that identity whereas when have I or any other Modi critic over here ever mentioned that he/ she is a leftist or a congress supporter? and yet all of us are clubbed together as if it is implied. Also don't you think instead of our hate it is their love for him that is akin to faith? Heck, faith does not even begin to cover it, more like a religious cult if you ask me.
oh i meant it in disjointed sense when i said hating a person , group , class , community . though sometimes it progresses in this order. If a PM of a country visits many countries and garners goodwill , how is it that this is projected as him vacationing abroad ! For a sane , rational person this inference is hilarious to say the least . But for somebody who hates him enough this is a convincing point of outrage.
Do u think me or anybody who is opposing Modi doesnt know DAT Modi is trying to get investment from abroad!! Nobody is criticising his foreign tours! But he is killing intellect and freedom and making society extremely polar and fractioned! No amount of investments can change a country faith if its resources or people r nT up to the mark!just go thru comments by modi fanatics made above! People whose thought process and language is so low do u think they ll tk this country ahead!!
Some guys are openly talking nonsense about other religions and making commentries which will put even fanatics to shame
the problem with leftists like u is that u choose to conveniently ignore some facts n highlight others. For eg u will ignore the fatwas issued against salman rushdie n taslima nasrin but will shout ur lungs out to espouse cause of MF Hussain. Medieval history will be shown as rosy n enlightened age (which is absolutely wrong) and ancient history will be shown as barbaric,backward age. U don't have guts to withstand extremism of a certain religion. this is what we call as pseudo secularism n minority appeasement.
I have read english translation of quran n let me tell u that it is nothing short of a hate literature. please go through it to believe me (I can even debate with maulanas on quran). Sane n moderate voices among muslims r microscopic minority. Arif mohd khan , union minister of rajiv gandhi resigned to protest rajiv gandhi's stand on shah bano case. Today he is politically redundant. whereas owaisi brothers who abuse hindu gods n give a clarion call for genocide win by lakhs of votes. Go through the speeches of zakir naik to get further clarity.
Ask any police personnel. They cann't enter in muslim dominted areas in their uniform. They r forced to retreat if at all they go to catch some criminal.Eg- batla house encounter, darbhanga module of Indian mujahideen.
muslims r different from the rest of the religions. They want to turn the clock back to medievalism. If there is islamophobia then that is due to islamophilia. It's a clash of civilisations where our ideology is on a quest to save humanity.
I was also a marxist in my college days brainwashed by the hindu , bipan chandra ,romila thapar et al but slowly when the mirage started fading, realities crept in. Now I feel at peace in worshipping gods, eulogising my country n my culture. :-bd
@Etat please consider the above comment for suitable action at your end.
Targeting holy scriptures? Isn't that objectionable?
I have only called for a debate on interpretations of quran. Eg- jihad n kafir r 2 words mentioned in quran.
Akbar was taught that jihad is war against bad human beings. Kafirs r non believers.
Aurangzeb was taught by miya masoom that jihad is war against hindus n kafirs r hindus. So quran sanctions war against them.
Renaissance is all about questioning n interpretations.Even hindus have abandoned manusmriti. There is nothing wrong in debating issues. Nothing is infallible n static in nature.
People r deliberately trying to misquote me n make my case weak. I have not insulted any anything or anyone.
Entire secular brigade was saying that modi govt is banning everything. there should be no bans. Now they r all hell bent to ban my account. Moderators have repeatedly been served notices. I m glad that I have exposed their hollowness.
If my comments r making my opponents insecure n they concede that they have lost the debate, I m ready to voluntarily not come on this thread.
If I have done anything wrong , I am ready to come out of anonymity n share all my details. Please hang me in public, flog me to death n let dogs eat my dead body. God is watching me. I will rot in hell for my misdeeds.
@scoobydoo , Aren't you being presumptuous again? Hate can be a matter of degrees, it can be transient and it can definitely be restricted to one individual. To suggest something to the effect that if I hate Modi I'll end up hating his entire community is ridiculous to say the least.
As for your second point, it is Modi fans themselves who are proud to be called so ,they wear their love for him on their sleeves and they take pride in that identity whereas when have I or any other Modi critic over here ever mentioned that he/ she is a leftist or a congress supporter? and yet all of us are clubbed together as if it is implied. Also don't you think instead of our hate it is their love for him that is akin to faith? Heck, faith does not even begin to cover it, more like a religious cult if you ask me.
oh i meant it in disjointed sense when i said hating a person , group , class , community . though sometimes it progresses in this order. If a PM of a country visits many countries and garners goodwill , how is it that this is projected as him vacationing abroad ! For a sane , rational person this inference is hilarious to say the least . But for somebody who hates him enough this is a convincing point of outrage.
Do u think me or anybody who is opposing Modi doesnt know DAT Modi is trying to get investment from abroad!! Nobody is criticising his foreign tours! But he is killing intellect and freedom and making society extremely polar and fractioned! No amount of investments can change a country faith if its resources or people r nT up to the mark!just go thru comments by modi fanatics made above! People whose thought process and language is so low do u think they ll tk this country ahead!!
Some guys are openly talking nonsense about other religions and making commentries which will put even fanatics to shame
the problem with leftists like u is that u choose to conveniently ignore some facts n highlight others. For eg u will ignore the fatwas issued against salman rushdie n taslima nasrin but will shout ur lungs out to espouse cause of MF Hussain. Medieval history will be shown as rosy n enlightened age (which is absolutely wrong) and ancient history will be shown as barbaric,backward age. U don't have guts to withstand extremism of a certain religion. this is what we call as pseudo secularism n minority appeasement.
I have read english translation of quran n let me tell u that it is nothing short of a hate literature. please go through it to believe me (I can even debate with maulanas on quran). Sane n moderate voices among muslims r microscopic minority. Arif mohd khan , union minister of rajiv gandhi resigned to protest rajiv gandhi's stand on shah bano case. Today he is politically redundant. whereas owaisi brothers who abuse hindu gods n give a clarion call for genocide win by lakhs of votes. Go through the speeches of zakir naik to get further clarity.
Ask any police personnel. They cann't enter in muslim dominted areas in their uniform. They r forced to retreat if at all they go to catch some criminal.Eg- batla house encounter, darbhanga module of Indian mujahideen.
muslims r different from the rest of the religions. They want to turn the clock back to medievalism. If there is islamophobia then that is due to islamophilia. It's a clash of civilisations where our ideology is on a quest to save humanity.
I was also a marxist in my college days brainwashed by the hindu , bipan chandra ,romila thapar et al but slowly when the mirage started fading, realities crept in. Now I feel at peace in worshipping gods, eulogising my country n my culture. :-bd
@Etat please consider the above comment for suitable action at your end.
Targeting holy scriptures? Isn't that objectionable?
I have only called for a debate on interpretations of quran. Eg- jihad n kafir r 2 words mentioned in quran.
Akbar was taught that jihad is war against bad human beings. Kafirs r non believers.
Aurangzeb was taught by miya masoom that jihad is war against hindus n kafirs r hindus. So quran sanctions war against them.
Renaissance is all about questioning n interpretations.Even hindus have abandoned manusmriti. There is nothing wrong in debating issues. Nothing is infallible n static in nature.
People r deliberately trying to misquote me n make my case weak. I hthough t insulted any anything or anyone.
I will not get into religion since it brings extreme passion for evry1 though I can talk about them. Have you ever stopped and thought who are Muslims in india? Why they left their own religion and converted to some other religion??
Even if religion of a minority class has 1000 flaws or turn for worst it does not cause worry for us bcoz they r minority they will not change course of this country as long majority people r on track.
But right now many of us feel its majority which is going out of track,do not appreciate how much our forefathers have struggled to keep this extreme diverse country united and sane.
U want to go back to ancient era without even knowing how majority were living or treated in that era!!! Do not live in fake glorious past trust me there was no equality or LA LA land in our past ever!!!
People like mahatma Gandhi,Nehru,Bose,maulana and many more gave their life youth and all happiness to bring this country to this point where we can say we are free to fulfill our basic aspirations and we have many rights which we never ever had!
Every1 born in india is Indian and do not make them feel that they r not indians.This is only home for all of us!!
By posting diatribes against a particular community repeatedly, theses Bhakts are not only helping us prove our point they are also displaying their narrow bigoted sensibilities. Modi Raj has emboldened these elements and it portends disaster for the country and this is exactly what we have been trying to highlight. All Modi critics are accused of being brainwashed whereas their own comments seem to be lifted verbatim from a saadhvi/yogi's tirade against a minority. They don't even bother to understand a comment or it's context and like programmed robots respond in one way only-abuse and aggression.
I couldn't stop laughing when the guy said and I quote "Now I feel at peace in worshipping gods, eulogising my country and culture" Reading all his comments so far I thought REALLY?? This is a person at peace? This is how a person at peace talks? And then I felt sorry for him.
By posting diatribes against a particular community repeatedly, theses Bhakts are not only helping us prove our point they are also displaying their narrow bigoted sensibilities. Modi Raj has emboldened these elements and it portends disaster for the country and this is exactly what we have been trying to highlight. All Modi critics are accused of being brainwashed whereas their own comments seem to be lifted verbatim from a saadhvi/yogi's tirade against a minority. They don't even bother to understand a comment or it's context and like programmed robots respond in one way only-abuse and aggression.
I couldn't stop laughing when the guy said and I quote "Now I feel at peace in worshipping gods, eulogising my country and culture" Reading all his comments so far I thought REALLY?? This is a person at peace? This is how a person at peace talks? And then I felt sorry for him.
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From today's The Hindu.
Sign in Hindi, Rajnath tells govt. servants
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/sign-in-hindi-rajnath-tells-govt-servants/article7652646.ece?homepage=true
He requested government servants to sign their files in Hindi.
A Big Difference.
Akbar was taught that jihad is war against bad human beings. Kafirs r non believers.
Aurangzeb was taught by miya masoom that jihad is war against hindus n kafirs r hindus. So quran sanctions war against them.
Renaissance is all about questioning n interpretations.Even hindus have abandoned manusmriti. There is nothing wrong in debating issues. Nothing is infallible n static in nature.
People r deliberately trying to misquote me n make my case weak. I have not insulted any anything or anyone.
If my comments r making my opponents insecure n they concede that they have lost the debate, I m ready to voluntarily not come on this thread.
If I have done anything wrong , I am ready to come out of anonymity n share all my details. Please hang me in public, flog me to death n let dogs eat my dead body. God is watching me. I will rot in hell for my misdeeds.
Have you ever stopped and thought who are Muslims in india? Why they left their own religion and converted to some other religion??
Even if religion of a minority class has 1000 flaws or turn for worst it does not cause worry for us bcoz they r minority they will not change course of this country as long majority people r on track.
But right now many of us feel its majority which is going out of track,do not appreciate how much our forefathers have struggled to keep this extreme diverse country united and sane.
U want to go back to ancient era without even knowing how majority were living or treated in that era!!! Do not live in fake glorious past trust me there was no equality or LA LA land in our past ever!!!
People like mahatma Gandhi,Nehru,Bose,maulana and many more gave their life youth and all happiness to bring this country to this point where we can say we are free to fulfill our basic aspirations and we have many rights which we never ever had!
Every1 born in india is Indian and do not make them feel that they r not indians.This is only home for all of us!!
Modi Raj has emboldened these elements and it portends disaster for the country and this is exactly what we have been trying to highlight.
All Modi critics are accused of being brainwashed whereas their own comments seem to be lifted verbatim from a saadhvi/yogi's tirade against a minority. They don't even bother to understand a comment or it's context and like programmed robots respond in one way only-abuse and aggression.
I couldn't stop laughing when the guy said and I quote "Now I feel at peace in worshipping gods, eulogising my country and culture"
Reading all his comments so far I thought REALLY?? This is a person at peace? This is how a person at peace talks?
And then I felt sorry for him.