[Debate] Nigvekar Committee Report on CSE - Radical or Reformist?

Jamey_Lannister

I don't know how many of you have seen this. Mrunal just got a reply for his one more ground breaking RTI. Excerpts of Nigvekar Committee reforms directly copied from http://mrunal.org/2014/03/rti-finally-got-top-secret-nigvekar-committee-report-civil-service-exam-reforms.html

1) Many IIT/IIM walla get selected in Group-B posts, but they leave the job halfway, thereby wasting the seat and reducing the chances of other candidates to qualify in the exam. So, remove group-B jobs from Civil service exam. (indirectly hinting that Group-B should be recruited by Staff Selection commission.)
And among the group A jobs, create two separate civil service exams- one for [IAS, IPS and IRS], while second separate exam for other remaining group A jobs.
2) Donot allow past-toppers to re-appear in the exam more than once.
3) Donot allow people with less than 50% in graduation to sit in prelims.
4) Prelim score card should have validity of two years (Meaning “senior player” should not be forced to prelims give again.)
5) Give specific booklist along with syllabus. (to get rid of coaching menace)
6)Three days interview, Group discussion, psychological-profiling similar to SSB.
7) Each interview candidate should be interviewed by “ALL boards” then take average score, so there is no biasedness.
8) In the elite Management colleges, you need to send a “admission-essay” before interview, Nigvekar recommended similar system before UPSC interviews.
9) Consolation prize- those who fail in interview should be given atleast some non-gazetted posts or alternative career opportunity.
^this just a “trailer” of the third chapter of his report. (He has written total six chapters). But, the Most interesting part: UPSC’s own research wing gave input to Nigvekar that:

CSAT paper- II favors Urban English medium candidates and it is hurting rural candidates.
Candidates with poor command over general studies are qualifying because of their good command over aptitude. (Since even the best candidates in general studies, cannot score beyond a point in GS paper- given its toughness). Thus, graduates from non-science/engg. background are hurt in the competition.
Nigvekar clearly mentioned ^this in chapter 3 of his report. No wonder, why UPSC was hellbent on hiding this report from RTI queries!


I found 1-8 very apt and would be a great step if its ever applied
Any thoughts on this? Go to the link for reading the report in entirety.

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Kindly debate on the report in here : http://forumias.com/discussion/3639/nigvekar-committee-report-for-civil-service-exam-reforms-fetched-by-mrunal-radical-or-reformist [This thread]

AnkurBhatt

Bhai logon...ye nigvekar chahta tha ki aise aspirants ko select kiya jaye jo nehru patel gandhi aur bose ka cocktail ho...aur vo bhi 25 saal ki umar mein...bhai mere experience aur field work aur exposure bhi koi cheeze hoti hai...inka bas chale to ye aise bande dhoondhe jo bina training ke hi seedhe field work me utar jayen...i think the report is illogical and has been rightly rejected by upsc...

Etat

The report seems to have its heart in the right place, but some of the details (age limit of 25) is hopelessly impractical.

The most studious person completes their graduation (after entering college at 17) by 20 in general streams. Nigavekar sahab seems to only want these people to get 5 shots. The average person would complete their graduation by 22-23; docs / some engineers / lawyers do so by 23-25 on average (at least 22+). None of them would get their 5 shots. This 25 age limit would be highly biased against these people. IIT+IIM guys would also suffer. Most technical graduates would be eliminated by this.

nietzche

i don't know if it is a good idea to grant 2-year exemption to those who have already cracked prelims.Will this not create an uneven playing field?

Etat

i don't know if it is a good idea to grant 2-year exemption to those who have already cracked prelims.Will this not create an uneven playing field?

Yup! Another problem. If a person cracks Prelims under the current system by virtue of CSAT, they'll be trying for Mains more often. CSAT would become even more of a barrier for others. That's unfair as well as counterintuitive when they alreay say that " Thus, graduates from non-science/engg. background are hurt in the competition."

Oceaneagle

What is the status of the report? Accepted/rejected/partially accepted?

AnkurBhatt

Moreover...what vision 2050 for aspirants he is talking about...and other qualities that he is talking about are inculcated over a period and he expects them in 25 yr.olds. i think upsc's mandate should be to find best minds who could be trained in short period of time...

Etat

What is the status of the report? Accepted/rejected/partially accepted?

Not decided yet. "Submitted"

Perseverant_soul

Thank God ! UPSC has saved aspirants from the Nigavekar. Otherwise, Hume fir se call karna padta Sharad Yadav /Lalu ko ! ) )

Anonymous

On a lighter note..
NigaBekar Report.. )

Evil_Empire

Nigvekar Committee Report :-O ( ~X(


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