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So if i count myself as one person for sending the draft on friday -
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@all , please add your count to this count - so that it is easy to count We may end up with a count of 10s also or 100s also - no need to worry as people are connected at other mediums also
@gks@upsc_ka_maara आप लोगों के आपसी झगडे में इस प्रयास की प्रारम्भ में ही 12 मत बजाओ। आपका ड्राफ्ट लंबा है कोई बात नहीं पिछली बार छोटा था तब भी कोई परेशानी नहीं। ड्राफ्ट सिर्फ अपनी शिकायत दर्ज कराने का तरीका है उससे ज्यादा कुछ नहीं। वो काम बड़े ड्राफ्ट से भी हो जायेगा इसलिए ड्राफ्ट के आकर को लेकर बहुत बहस की आवश्यकता नहीं है। हालाँकि ड्राफ्ट मुझे भी कुछ लंबा लगता है पर उस की लंबाई पर विवाद की आवश्यकता बिलकुल नहीं लगती।
पिछले आंदोलन के बारे में बहुत सी गलत फहमियां हैं यहाँ।पहली बात उद्देश्य को लेकर भ्रम ड्राफ्ट छोटा होने के कारण नहीं हुआ था। भ्रम का कारण ये था की वो छोटा ड्राफ्ट भी बहुत कम लोगों के पास नहीं पहुंचा था और जिनके पास पहुंचा उन्होंने उसे पढने की तकलीफ नहीं उठाई। दूसरी समस्या कुछ नेता टाइप के लोगों की हमेशा आगे दिखने की इच्छा। दुर्भाग्यवश उनका अभिव्यक्ति कौशल उनकी महत्वाकांक्षा की तुलना में बहुत कम था। पिछले आंदोलन में अपनी बात सबके सामने रखने के लिए कुशल लोगों की टीम गठित की गई थी जिसने कुछ समय बेहतर काम किया पर अंत में नेता लोगों ने उस टीम को पीछे कर दिया।
उम्मीद है की पिछले आंदोलन की गलतियां इस बार नहीं होंगी। इस बार तर्क पिछली बार की अपेक्षा बहुत बेहतर हैं और ड्राफ्ट भी लंबा होने के बावजूद पिछले आंदोलन से ठीक है।
I'm writing this for the final time and then getting out of here.
1) I am not claiming to be God or the whole world. If I was God, I would have selected myself to be in service by now. 2) I was no leader. there was no movement. If you read my first post, we were just 20-25 people trying desperately to get an attempt . Thats it just 20 people. and we divided the work and worked like crazy. And got it. 3) We had no contacts with political leaders/ MPs/ student leader/ tv channels etc 4) we managed to talk to bureaucrats by waiting outside in the sun for hours. and then too they gave us like 10 mins and were dismissive 5) The only thing i was trying to tell you was my experiences of the time. what worked for us in the hope that some of it may be of use to you 6) There is nothing wrong with your draft. Except that it is "too much" ... people in power do not have the time/ patience to go thru it 7) The committee will read your draft but the committee does not decide whether you get an attempt or not. The Govt does. 8) So decide who you want to target - the Govt or the committee. They are both separate entities. both require a different approach 9) Committee will NOT get you an attempt. The Govt will 10) How is mine asking help for my future career plans relevant to the discussion I don't know.
There is no point in prolonging this "discussion" ... All the best to everyone for their future plans and efforts
Don't Worry - that matter is left behind and when i counted NOW - the draft is ALREADY 5 pages now after multiple suggestions of last 2 days, but don't know its length after incorporating all suggestions in next 2 days.
concentrate on FIRST STEP NOW - SENDING THE REPRESENTATIONS,
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@all , please add your count to this count - so that it is easy to count
We may end up with a count of 10s also or 100s also - no need to worry as people are connected at other mediums also
आप लोगों के आपसी झगडे में इस प्रयास की प्रारम्भ में ही 12 मत बजाओ। आपका ड्राफ्ट लंबा है कोई बात नहीं पिछली बार छोटा था तब भी कोई परेशानी नहीं। ड्राफ्ट सिर्फ अपनी शिकायत दर्ज कराने का तरीका है उससे ज्यादा कुछ नहीं। वो काम बड़े ड्राफ्ट से भी हो जायेगा इसलिए ड्राफ्ट के आकर को लेकर बहुत बहस की आवश्यकता नहीं है। हालाँकि ड्राफ्ट मुझे भी कुछ लंबा लगता है पर उस की लंबाई पर विवाद की आवश्यकता बिलकुल नहीं लगती।
पिछले आंदोलन के बारे में बहुत सी गलत फहमियां हैं यहाँ।पहली बात उद्देश्य को लेकर भ्रम ड्राफ्ट छोटा होने के कारण नहीं हुआ था। भ्रम का कारण ये था की वो छोटा ड्राफ्ट भी बहुत कम लोगों के पास नहीं पहुंचा था और जिनके पास पहुंचा उन्होंने उसे पढने की तकलीफ नहीं उठाई। दूसरी समस्या कुछ नेता टाइप के लोगों की हमेशा आगे दिखने की इच्छा। दुर्भाग्यवश उनका अभिव्यक्ति कौशल उनकी महत्वाकांक्षा की तुलना में बहुत कम था। पिछले आंदोलन में अपनी बात सबके सामने रखने के लिए कुशल लोगों की टीम गठित की गई थी जिसने कुछ समय बेहतर काम किया पर अंत में नेता लोगों ने उस टीम को पीछे कर दिया।
उम्मीद है की पिछले आंदोलन की गलतियां इस बार नहीं होंगी। इस बार तर्क पिछली बार की अपेक्षा बहुत बेहतर हैं और ड्राफ्ट भी लंबा होने के बावजूद पिछले आंदोलन से ठीक है।
I'm writing this for the final time and then getting out of here.
1) I am not claiming to be God or the whole world. If I was God, I would have selected myself to be in service by now.
2) I was no leader. there was no movement. If you read my first post, we were just 20-25 people trying desperately to get an attempt . Thats it just 20 people. and we divided the work and worked like crazy. And got it.
3) We had no contacts with political leaders/ MPs/ student leader/ tv channels etc
4) we managed to talk to bureaucrats by waiting outside in the sun for hours. and then too they gave us like 10 mins and were dismissive
5) The only thing i was trying to tell you was my experiences of the time. what worked for us in the hope that some of it may be of use to you
6) There is nothing wrong with your draft. Except that it is "too much" ... people in power do not have the time/ patience to go thru it
7) The committee will read your draft but the committee does not decide whether you get an attempt or not. The Govt does.
8) So decide who you want to target - the Govt or the committee. They are both separate entities. both require a different approach
9) Committee will NOT get you an attempt. The Govt will
10) How is mine asking help for my future career plans relevant to the discussion I don't know.
There is no point in prolonging this "discussion" ... All the best to everyone for their future plans and efforts
Thanks for the suggestions and insights,
Don't Worry - that matter is left behind and when i counted NOW - the draft is ALREADY 5 pages now after multiple suggestions of last 2 days, but don't know its length after incorporating all suggestions in next 2 days.
concentrate on FIRST STEP NOW - SENDING THE REPRESENTATIONS,
Asdd your count if you would be joining
In fact one person can send 4-5 emails from diff id's..
What say guys ??