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correct me if i am wrong, Illiterate and poor people are susceptible to jumlebaazi and freebies. and number of such people is very large in our country.
They can be misguided in many ways and therefore is a serious problem in elections.
What if people who are educated (Say at-least a degree) and people who pay higher taxes had a greater share in voting?
for example, the vote of a degree holder should be consider 10 times higher than that of a person without a degree.
What can be the consequences of such a voting reform? I am left wondering.
Hmm..vry effective suggestion..but 1) Garibon ke sath pura relation hi tut jayega minister ka aur desh ka vi..they wl be more vulnerable..
2) it'll be exactly British Raj type.
I second you bhai
But, garibs will be motivated to pursue higher education then?
Han lekhin higher weightage voters aur candidates chnc denge, tab vi ye wo padh payenge na..jan bujh kar unko padhne ke lye roka jayega aur unki awaz me koi dum vi nhi hoga kyu ki unki vote me weightage hi nhi hogi..
correct me if i am wrong, Illiterate and poor people are susceptible to jumlebaazi and freebies. and number of such people is very large in our country.
They can be misguided in many ways and therefore is a serious problem in elections.
What if people who are educated (Say at-least a degree) and people who pay higher taxes had a greater share in voting?
for example, the vote of a degree holder should be consider 10 times higher than that of a person without a degree.
What can be the consequences of such a voting reform? I am left wondering.
Hmm..vry effective suggestion..but 1) Garibon ke sath pura relation hi tut jayega minister ka aur desh ka vi..they wl be more vulnerable..
2) it'll be exactly British Raj type.
I second you bhai
But, garibs will be motivated to pursue higher education then?
Han lekhin higher weightage voters aur candidates chnc denge, tab vi ye wo padh payenge na..jan bujh kar unko padhne ke lye roka jayega aur unki awaz me koi dum vi nhi hoga kyu ki unki vote me weightage hi nhi hogi..
correct me if i am wrong, Illiterate and poor people are susceptible to jumlebaazi and freebies. and number of such people is very large in our country.
They can be misguided in many ways and therefore is a serious problem in elections.
What if people who are educated (Say at-least a degree) and people who pay higher taxes had a greater share in voting?
for example, the vote of a degree holder should be consider 10 times higher than that of a person without a degree.
What can be the consequences of such a voting reform? I am left wondering.
James mill said about proportional voting in 1800s only
correct me if i am wrong, Illiterate and poor people are susceptible to jumlebaazi and freebies. and number of such people is very large in our country.
They can be misguided in many ways and therefore is a serious problem in elections.
What if people who are educated (Say at-least a degree) and people who pay higher taxes had a greater share in voting?
for example, the vote of a degree holder should be consider 10 times higher than that of a person without a degree.
What can be the consequences of such a voting reform? I am left wondering.
It would lead to creation of a widening gulf. Politics would not prioritise the interests of the poor, as opposed to now when the governemnt is forced to think about the farm distress, financial inclusion, education of poor etc. It would become the government of haves, for haves, by haves. Have-nots would be permanently excluded, and one day there would be revolt, unless a concept as unique as the varna hierarchy and accompanying worldview of circular life and unending cycle of life-death, consequentalism of Karmas would keep the masses satiated.
The old Indian social system apart from keeping a stable mix of classes also prioritised class functions over class entitlements. And this lent the varna hierarchy a stability not found anywhere else despite there being similar three or for tier socila structures in other parts of teh world, say Europe. In India, a merchant howsoever wealthy would be lower in social prestige than Brahman and Kshatriya, and a Brahman with low financial conditions could still live an honorable life with social prestige attached. Social prestige was not necessarily attached with wealth. This sytem also did not allow regionalism to emerge as a stonger element. And varna/caste solidarity echoed across regions, creating a sutainable nation without a sustaining national government/monarch.
correct me if i am wrong, Illiterate and poor people are susceptible to jumlebaazi and freebies. and number of such people is very large in our country.
They can be misguided in many ways and therefore is a serious problem in elections.
What if people who are educated (Say at-least a degree) and people who pay higher taxes had a greater share in voting?
for example, the vote of a degree holder should be consider 10 times higher than that of a person without a degree.
What can be the consequences of such a voting reform? I am left wondering.
Hmm..vry effective suggestion..but 1) Garibon ke sath pura relation hi tut jayega minister ka aur desh ka vi..they wl be more vulnerable..
2) it'll be exactly British Raj type.
I second you bhai
But, garibs will be motivated to pursue higher education then?
Han lekhin higher weightage voters aur candidates chnc denge, tab vi ye wo padh payenge na..jan bujh kar unko padhne ke lye roka jayega aur unki awaz me koi dum vi nhi hoga kyu ki unki vote me weightage hi nhi hogi..
correct me if i am wrong, Illiterate and poor people are susceptible to jumlebaazi and freebies. and number of such people is very large in our country.
They can be misguided in many ways and therefore is a serious problem in elections.
What if people who are educated (Say at-least a degree) and people who pay higher taxes had a greater share in voting?
for example, the vote of a degree holder should be consider 10 times higher than that of a person without a degree.
What can be the consequences of such a voting reform? I am left wondering.
See what you are suggesting shows a few assumptions 1. Illetrate people are more suseptible to jumlebazi and are misguided 2. People with higher degree and share in tax payment be given more proportion in voting. 3. You don't seem to see any problem with such voting reform.
Firstly illetrate people are susceptible to jumlebazi but i think literate people are equally probe to that. An illiterate farmer really doesn't care if govt is saying we will provide jobs in IT or Diploma holders will get this or that. Its the educted ones who get taken away.
Going by this assumption countries with good literacy should have been free of this problem.
2. Here the problem is people with higher education And those who pay tax have priorities that are different. What are the chances that they will try to put effort or vote for progress. Why would they like to give their advantageous voting rights? And by saying that those who pay more tax should have more voting share, you are really saying that top financially sound people of the country be given more vote share. Because they do pay more tax even after all the corruption or oversea dealings etc . They are the ones cheating and at the same time paying high taxes!
There is a threshold upto which common people can pay tax. So they'll all come under that category. It would be a system where if you want more say , you pay more tax. Because then you will decide who comes to power , so that, that power can help you earn more and pay more tax.
3. Basic assumption that illiterates can be duped easily, literates are the solution takes away facts like casteism, sexism, class conflicts etc. Literate people in india vote for the same caste people, reserved category people who have got benefits refuse to let the creamy layer come into their category, parliament can not pass a women's reservation bill, educated members of political parties don't shy away from giving tickets to criminals etc, judges can not come under rti.
It is easy to put the blames on illetrates and the rural population because that is the demographic structure we have. We think by giving literate people more vote , they will be encouraged to go out and vote. Thing is forget voting we have educated people with degrees everywhere. Its the lack of law n order, the clout of the educated and the beneficiaries that has ruined this country. And stupid things like casteism just refuses to go away.
I mean just look at that feminism thread, people are really full of shit. Educated people. Who think it is cool to talk in derogatory ways about women. Who find no issues with half the boys running in parks wearing shorts but have problem with that girl who decided to wear shorts. Because they think she is a feminazi. I mean jeez! You don't even notice that boy who has proposed to maybe 5 girls but that girl who was in relationship is a problem.
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I'd really appreciate the effort. -puppy eyes-
The old Indian social system apart from keeping a stable mix of classes also prioritised class functions over class entitlements. And this lent the varna hierarchy a stability not found anywhere else despite there being similar three or for tier socila structures in other parts of teh world, say Europe. In India, a merchant howsoever wealthy would be lower in social prestige than Brahman and Kshatriya, and a Brahman with low financial conditions could still live an honorable life with social prestige attached. Social prestige was not necessarily attached with wealth. This sytem also did not allow regionalism to emerge as a stonger element. And varna/caste solidarity echoed across regions, creating a sutainable nation without a sustaining national government/monarch.
1. Illetrate people are more suseptible to jumlebazi and are misguided
2. People with higher degree and share in tax payment be given more proportion in voting.
3. You don't seem to see any problem with such voting reform.
Firstly illetrate people are susceptible to jumlebazi but i think literate people are equally probe to that. An illiterate farmer really doesn't care if govt is saying we will provide jobs in IT or Diploma holders will get this or that. Its the educted ones who get taken away.
Going by this assumption countries with good literacy should have been free of this problem.
2. Here the problem is people with higher education And those who pay tax have priorities that are different. What are the chances that they will try to put effort or vote for progress. Why would they like to give their advantageous voting rights?
And by saying that those who pay more tax should have more voting share, you are really saying that top financially sound people of the country be given more vote share. Because they do pay more tax even after all the corruption or oversea dealings etc . They are the ones cheating and at the same time paying high taxes!
There is a threshold upto which common people can pay tax. So they'll all come under that category. It would be a system where if you want more say , you pay more tax. Because then you will decide who comes to power , so that, that power can help you earn more and pay more tax.
3. Basic assumption that illiterates can be duped easily, literates are the solution takes away facts like casteism, sexism, class conflicts etc.
Literate people in india vote for the same caste people, reserved category people who have got benefits refuse to let the creamy layer come into their category, parliament can not pass a women's reservation bill, educated members of political parties don't shy away from giving tickets to criminals etc, judges can not come under rti.
It is easy to put the blames on illetrates and the rural population because that is the demographic structure we have. We think by giving literate people more vote , they will be encouraged to go out and vote.
Thing is forget voting we have educated people with degrees everywhere. Its the lack of law n order, the clout of the educated and the beneficiaries that has ruined this country. And stupid things like casteism just refuses to go away.
I mean just look at that feminism thread, people are really full of shit. Educated people. Who think it is cool to talk in derogatory ways about women. Who find no issues with half the boys running in parks wearing shorts but have problem with that girl who decided to wear shorts. Because they think she is a feminazi. I mean jeez! You don't even notice that boy who has proposed to maybe 5 girls but that girl who was in relationship is a problem.
So yes, we are all illetrates.