Petition to Reform Selection to Indian Forest Service to create Specialist Service.

chuck

@junglee_sewa ...chill maar bhai ...inse naa ho paaega kuch... Govt/authorities are not so responsive (to readily accept their demands). More importantly, even their arguments are flawed (particularly eligibility/Bio till 12th).
This exam is for forest service, not to become a Veterinary doctor or botanist.
2 bio books (11th, 12th) can be read in 2 days. More crucial should be the candidate's genuine love for nature/forests/animals/conservation.

IFS requires more of a generalist, than a specialist.
Among many other roles/functions, IFS officers have to oversee welfare of tribal people (living in & dependent on forests), check poachers, maintain law & order in forests, regulate tourism, ensure reduction of man-animal conflicts ...& obviously, conservationist roles.

Kal ko ye bolenge ki IRS/IAAS k liye commerce waale candidates chahiye, Foreign service k liye Chinese/Japanese/French/German/Spanish...language waale chahiye, IPS k liye John Cena chahiye ...

agent_k

Totally pointless conclusion. ...
(Ab kyuki tumne target hi engineering courses par Kia h to usi term mein samjhata hu...)

1.first of all tumne jo bhi research Kia h...wo bilkul baseless h....reason batata hu. .

...let's take example of civil engineering. .......isme baki topics k alawa irrigation, hydrology , survey ..etc course work mein rahte h....particularly gis, GPS to survey ka integral part h.....aur in Sab cheezo ka kitna importance h ifs mein ye tumhe pata hi hoga.... (aur agar nhi pata to 5-6 Saal jaakar aur research karo abhi in Sab par)....( I assume ki other engineering course aur other elgible ifs subject mein kafi relevant cheeze rahti hongi tabhi wo ifs ke optional subjects h)

2. "Tumhare logic" k hisab se to fir IRS sirf unhi ko milna chaiye jinka management ya economic se graduation ho....(ya fir railway unhi ko milna chaiye jo railway school se padhe ho... )

3.aisa lagta h ki tumhari khunnas sirf engineering waalon se nhi balki graduation walo se bhi h.....tabhi tum postgraduate, PhD etc....par "stress" de rahe ho...

4. Rahi baat guirella - worilla ki....to yaar itna research karne k baad agar tumhe itna nhi pata to bhagwan hi Malik h tumhare "research " k liye....wo ye ki 2 Saal ki training k baad ifs mein post graduation in M.Sc forestry ki degree di jaati h...

5. Aur jo tum attrition rate ki baat kar rahe ho ....to kya guarantee h ki agar kuch change hota h to changes hone k baad jo bande exam clear karenge wo puri tarah se samarpit rahenge. ....(aspirations sabki change hoti rahti h)


basically agar tumne kuch aisa suggestions rakha hota ki ifs mein selection k baad unse bond ya fir declaration bharwa lia jaaye ki aagey wo koi aur exam nhi denge tab thoda tumhara so called "concern" jayaz bhi lagta

6. apne hidden agenda ko petition ka naam mat do....

aur sabse important tum sab kuch fir se" RE search " karo...

MASURATU

@junglee_sewa ...chill maar bhai ...inse naa ho paaega kuch... Govt/authorities are not so responsive (to readily accept their demands). More importantly, even their arguments are flawed (particularly eligibility/Bio till 12th).
This exam is for forest service, not to become a Veterinary doctor or botanist.
2 bio books (11th, 12th) can be read in 2 days. More crucial should be the candidate's genuine love for nature/forests/animals/conservation.

IFS requires more of a generalist, than a specialist.
Among many other roles/functions, IFS officers have to oversee welfare of tribal people (living in & dependent on forests), check poachers, maintain law & order in forests, regulate tourism, ensure reduction of man-animal conflicts ...& obviously, conservationist roles.

Kal ko ye bolenge ki IRS/IAAS k liye commerce waale candidates chahiye, Foreign service k liye Chinese/Japanese/French/German/Spanish...language waale chahiye, IPS k liye John Cena chahiye ...

Sahi mai...pehle tn agricultural vale jaate the tb koi halla nahi hua..ab katne lag gaya toh pattern change kro..

adityaM

@agent_k .. If you can't write in an intelligible language, just shut up and do yourself a favor.

adityaM

My letter to Editor of Down to Earth Magazine. I also wrote to The Chairman of the Committee which has been constituted to consider amendment to the educational qualifications required for appearing in Indian Forest Service Examination as well as optional subjects for Indian Forest Service Examination. I am posting the letter here and I wish you people also pitch in adapt the letter and post it to Director, IGNFA, Chairman UPSC, Minister MoEF, Inspector General Forests and your representatives in the Parliament. The petition will come soon I promise.

Dear Madam/Sir,


I read the article 'the sad plight of India's forestry graduates' by Arvind Bijalwan and I had some views of my own which I wish to share as the problem extends beyond forestry graduates and includes the Indian Forest Service along with state services. I am a conservation volunteer and student of wildlife ecology and my experience over the past six-seven years has led me to appreciate the importance of having a public service dedicated to conserving natural resources including biological diversity in this country. In this context I feel historic neglect as well as recent changes in the recruitment process will undermine conservation efforts in India. I have attached a set of graphs based on data available from site:- ignfa.gov.in to illustrate certain detrimental trends.

The first graph shows that the proportion of candidates having professional and specialized qualifications in the field of forestry and wildlife has drastically declined. Students with graduate and/or postgraduate level qualifications in streams such as Forestry, Wildlife Science, Veterinary Science and Environmental Management which have wide applications in field of forest and wildlife management were only 20 of the 77 candidates who joined Indira Gandhi National Forest Academy(IGNFA) for their training in the year 2013. However, from this already low figure professional expertise have dipped to the low of 1 out of 61 candidates who joined in 2015. Presumably a similar trend is seen in recruitment to state forest services as evidenced by the recent protests by forestry graduates in Maharashtra. It can also be noted that students coming from humanities background are ineligible for appearing for IFoS Examination, this has led to an outrageous situation where almost 90% of the selected come from engineering background and none from fields such as Anthropology, Sociology which are more relevant to understanding conservation issues.

This is an alarming situation as it will cause a paucity of managers with specialized knowledge in an era which is marked by a rapid decline in biodiversity, surge in extinction rates of species and irreversible changes in natural ecosystems due a variety of complex reasons which need knowledgeable minds to work upon. Moreover this situation has arisen when India produces hundreds of graduates and postgraduates every year in the field of ecology, wildlife and forest management from elite institutions such as Wildlife Institute of India(WII), National Center for Biological Sciences(NCBS), Forest Research Institute, Indian Institute of Forest Management(IIFM) , Tata Institute of Social Sciences(TISS) to name a few. All of these institutions are funded by the Central or State governments and it is a serious waste of taxpayers money if the skill sets they develop and knowledge they impart is not even considered for recruitment to forest services. One wonders what is the point of our Prime Minister's 'Skill India Mission' when the skills which are available aren't honored. Lastly as the second graph shows a large section of people selected aren't even interested in joining the Indian Forest Service. In the year 2013, 77 of the 85 candidates who were selected through the examination conducted in 2012 joined their training at IGNFA, however in 2015 only 61 of the 110 candidates selected joined. It all seems to be a great travesty of the UPSC examination system and will eventually corrode the motivation levels of young officers and prestige associated with the service.

Even cursory reading of conservation issues in India shows that ignorance of Science has cost India dear. Take for example the flawed practice of 'pug mark' census which the Forest Departments were using while tigers went extinct in Sariska and Panna, and it was revealed that we were left with 1400 not 3500 tigers. Perhaps an even more costly mistake is the fallacious equivalence officers make between natural forests and plantations, inability to distinguish between them reflects ignorance of the natural world and results in 'afforestation' being touted as a solution to deforestation. Unscientific management methods such as translocating 'problem leopards' is shown to further exasperate human-leopard conflict but is nonetheless still employed by Forest Departments. IFoS officers are also posted on deputation basis as Senior Administrators as well as Scientists to research and academic institutions such as the Wildlife Institute of India, Indian institute of Forest Management, Forest Research Institute etc. It is hard to see any future for these institutions with science administrators as well as scientists with not even a basic graduate degree in a relevant discipline.

It is high time that this situation is addressed before it becomes a trend and therefore it is essential that eligibility norms as well as the examination syllabus is overhauled to ensure that the service gets an inflow of knowledgeable and motivated women and men. It is necessary to at least have in-dept question papers in Ecology and Conservation Biology, Human-Dimensions in Conservation, Forest and Wildlife Management etc as part of the examination pattern without which things won't improve. I will be elated if my concerns could be shared with your readers. Thanking you in anticipation.


Regards,
Aditya M.
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The views voiced in this email are solely my own and don't reflect the opinions of any organizations or individuals I am associated with.

agent_k

@agent_k .. If you can't write in an intelligible language, just shut up and do yourself a favor.

...matlab kuch bhi.....

P.S.- bhai thoda aur research kar k 1-2 question paper bhi bana k bhej diye hote. ..sample k liye...

junglee_sewa

My letter to Editor of Down to Earth Magazine. I also wrote to The Chairman of the Committee which has been constituted to consider amendment to the educational qualifications required for appearing in Indian Forest Service Examination as well as optional subjects for Indian Forest Service Examination. I am posting the letter here and I wish you people also pitch in adapt the letter and post it to Director, IGNFA, Chairman UPSC, Minister MoEF, Inspector General Forests and your representatives in the Parliament. The petition will come soon I promise.

Dear Madam/Sir,


I read the article 'the sad plight of India's forestry graduates' by Arvind Bijalwan and I had some views of my own which I wish to share as the problem extends beyond forestry graduates and includes the Indian Forest Service along with state services. I am a conservation volunteer and student of wildlife ecology and my experience over the past six-seven years has led me to appreciate the importance of having a public service dedicated to conserving natural resources including biological diversity in this country. In this context I feel historic neglect as well as recent changes in the recruitment process will undermine conservation efforts in India. I have attached a set of graphs based on data available from site:- ignfa.gov.in to illustrate certain detrimental trends.

The first graph shows that the proportion of candidates having professional and specialized qualifications in the field of forestry and wildlife has drastically declined. Students with graduate and/or postgraduate level qualifications in streams such as Forestry, Wildlife Science, Veterinary Science and Environmental Management which have wide applications in field of forest and wildlife management were only 20 of the 77 candidates who joined Indira Gandhi National Forest Academy(IGNFA) for their training in the year 2013. However, from this already low figure professional expertise have dipped to the low of 1 out of 61 candidates who joined in 2015. Presumably a similar trend is seen in recruitment to state forest services as evidenced by the recent protests by forestry graduates in Maharashtra. It can also be noted that students coming from humanities background are ineligible for appearing for IFoS Examination, this has led to an outrageous situation where almost 90% of the selected come from engineering background and none from fields such as Anthropology, Sociology which are more relevant to understanding conservation issues.

This is an alarming situation as it will cause a paucity of managers with specialized knowledge in an era which is marked by a rapid decline in biodiversity, surge in extinction rates of species and irreversible changes in natural ecosystems due a variety of complex reasons which need knowledgeable minds to work upon. Moreover this situation has arisen when India produces hundreds of graduates and postgraduates every year in the field of ecology, wildlife and forest management from elite institutions such as Wildlife Institute of India(WII), National Center for Biological Sciences(NCBS), Forest Research Institute, Indian Institute of Forest Management(IIFM) , Tata Institute of Social Sciences(TISS) to name a few. All of these institutions are funded by the Central or State governments and it is a serious waste of taxpayers money if the skill sets they develop and knowledge they impart is not even considered for recruitment to forest services. One wonders what is the point of our Prime Minister's 'Skill India Mission' when the skills which are available aren't honored. Lastly as the second graph shows a large section of people selected aren't even interested in joining the Indian Forest Service. In the year 2013, 77 of the 85 candidates who were selected through the examination conducted in 2012 joined their training at IGNFA, however in 2015 only 61 of the 110 candidates selected joined. It all seems to be a great travesty of the UPSC examination system and will eventually corrode the motivation levels of young officers and prestige associated with the service.

Even cursory reading of conservation issues in India shows that ignorance of Science has cost India dear. Take for example the flawed practice of 'pug mark' census which the Forest Departments were using while tigers went extinct in Sariska and Panna, and it was revealed that we were left with 1400 not 3500 tigers. Perhaps an even more costly mistake is the fallacious equivalence officers make between natural forests and plantations, inability to distinguish between them reflects ignorance of the natural world and results in 'afforestation' being touted as a solution to deforestation. Unscientific management methods such as translocating 'problem leopards' is shown to further exasperate human-leopard conflict but is nonetheless still employed by Forest Departments. IFoS officers are also posted on deputation basis as Senior Administrators as well as Scientists to research and academic institutions such as the Wildlife Institute of India, Indian institute of Forest Management, Forest Research Institute etc. It is hard to see any future for these institutions with science administrators as well as scientists with not even a basic graduate degree in a relevant discipline.

It is high time that this situation is addressed before it becomes a trend and therefore it is essential that eligibility norms as well as the examination syllabus is overhauled to ensure that the service gets an inflow of knowledgeable and motivated women and men. It is necessary to at least have in-dept question papers in Ecology and Conservation Biology, Human-Dimensions in Conservation, Forest and Wildlife Management etc as part of the examination pattern without which things won't improve. I will be elated if my concerns could be shared with your readers. Thanking you in anticipation.


Regards,
Aditya M.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ __ _ _ __ _ _ __ _ __ _ _ __ _ __ _ _ __ _ _ __ _ _ __ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ __ _
The views voiced in this email are solely my own and don't reflect the opinions of any organizations or individuals I am associated with.

What's your aim?
-to become ias.
-to become ifos.
-to do bakar
-NOTA

adityaM

@agent_k @junglee_sewa I am guessing you people haven't read a Management Plan of a Sanctuary, National Park or a Wildlife Division, that's what I am doing write now. My aim is to contribute to conserving wildlife in India that's a higher aim than becoming IAS, IFoS or another babu

agent_k

@agent_k @junglee_sewa I am guessing you people haven't read a Management Plan of a Sanctuary, National Park or a Wildlife Division, that's what I am doing write now. My aim is to contribute to conserving wildlife in India that's a higher aim than becoming IAS, IFoS or another babu

..ok brother. ..ignore all my above comments. and no ill feeling from my side ...keep the good work going....