The 2015 Intolerance Debate

johnphilip

We need to do this in India.
Donald Trump on terrorists: 'Take out their families'
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-terrorists-families/index.html

K9

@jobhikarwalo Don't start with actuality and religion. You should know better that all religions are devoid of reason and are to explain what is beyond reason. Life, death and whatever humans could not make sense of. If you are going to say there never was any ram, then was there a gabriel? Or for that matter was/is there even a God? That would make the very existence of koran, gita and bible questionable.

I don't think a mosque should have been abolished merely because it was in ayodhya because no god that all the theists believe in would endorse that. What I mean to say is question the act of destruction but don't start questioning the historicity and objectivity of religious beliefs. They are "beliefs" in that very sense. They are not grounded on reason. Once you start questioning them then you'll never see the end of it.

K9

@jobhikarwalo question these.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Lorelei

The minds of some people are so tightly sealed shut that the contents within start rotting and stinking, it then becomes absolutely pointless to have any sort of dialogue with them.

It is beneath my dignity to respond to people who can't even complete a sentence without getting vulgar obscene and abusive, it's not my idea of a debate..so do NOT tag me in the future.

I'll come back to this thread to debate with people I find worthy of my engagement, not going to waste my time on immature bullies.

Hakuna_Matata

@Chalu_aunty

Bhai agar modi ji ko kuch bhi kar diya na ISIS ne toh kasam bajrang bali ji ki is desh ki 17 crore abaadi kam ho jaegi. Khoon ki holi khelenge. Aar ya paar ki ladai hogi. Bahut saal ho gaya saala yeh hindu , muslim. We need a decisive end.

No wonder why country had to witness 1984 riots! Have you ever pondered over one simple thing that actions based on your thought process will unleash a vicious circle of never ending violence ? It is highly improbable that such terrorist organizations would be able to cause any harm to Mr. PM, we are not living in 80s. In fact you are helping them to realize their motive of attracting more number of Muslim youth, who feel alienated in their own country. Logically, In a huge country like India, if 50 out of 17 crore loose their track and join such organization, you can certainly not accuse whole community for that.


please gali wali mat dena. Mujhe sirf ek do aati hain, that too I use when I am not able to contain my anger, unfortunately, usko bhi log hansi main uda dete hain - may be they are too mild for them - like Donkey, dog, rhino etc.

K9

Lorelei - This is what I mean when I say "intellectuals" today are the most closed minded. They do not want to hear any other view. Fine, you don't like Chalu aunty's view. Counter her with your own arguments instead of potraying yourself as superior intellectual being akin to immanuel kant and the others as some non sensical clowns arguing without any mental faculties who are "not worth your time." For me, you and the bigoted lot are both on the same level. You are no better if you can't argue based on facts but just want to attack others personally and show your delusional superiority. Tell me how those verses advocating violence in koran are false. There are not 2, not 3 but not 109 of them. Tell me how caste system and women subordination in manusmriti is not reprehensible. I am open to debate. Any religion. All have questionable elements. Counter me on facts instead of living in a utopian world that "every religion is right" "they have no faults".

gaurav1267

@jobhikarwalo Don't start with actuality and religion. You should know better that all religions are devoid of reason and are to explain what is beyond reason. Life, death and whatever humans could not make sense of. If you are going to say there never was any ram, then was there a gabriel? Or for that matter was/is there even a God? That would make the very existence of koran, gita and bible questionable.



I don't think a mosque should have been abolished merely because it was in ayodhya because no god that all the theists believe in would endorse that. What I mean to say is question the act of destruction but don't start questioning the historicity and objectivity of religious beliefs. They are "beliefs" in that very sense. They are not grounded on reason. Once you start questioning them then you'll never see the end of it.

i guess u dont know anything about hinduism. anything at all. i said i dont believe in ramayana ( and mahabharat too) and not anything else. it doesnt mean i disregard all other things. anywaz all the best.

johnphilip

Should God's own country become God's own independent country?
http://www.ibnlive.com/blogs/india/sreedhar-pillai/india-2-11015-748496.html

Pseudo intellectuals and their Muslim collaborators want to break India again.

K9

@jobhikarwalo Hahahaaha. I know more than you can ever know in your life. It is all conjecture. You don't believe in ramayana? You believe in prohphet mohammad travelling to heaven on a windhorse? You believe angel gabriel found him in a cave and dictated koran? You are such a knob that in your pursuit to pick my error(which btw I realized I reread your comment and knew a simpleton like you would base your reply on that) you lost sight of the point I was trying to make.

World does not revolve around what you believe in. You believe in ram and conveniently don't believe in ramayana? Basically you believe and not believe whatever suits you. That is even more terrible as you are not the scholar who determines what is historical or not. If history is that irrelevant then why are there no temples allowed in saudi arabia? In Mecca and Medina? I can say everything was a hoax. There is no religious affiliation to any of the sites. Will they allow hindus to build temples over there?

Chalu_aunty

The minds of some people are so tightly sealed shut that the contents within start rotting and stinking, it then becomes absolutely pointless to have any sort of dialogue with them.



It is beneath my dignity to respond to people who can't even complete a sentence without getting vulgar obscene and abusive, it's not my idea of a debate..so do NOT tag me in the future.



I'll come back to this thread to debate with people I find worthy of my engagement, not going to waste my time on immature bullies.

I loath disgusting people like u. When it comes to hinduism u will abuse it in all ways. But polygamy in islam is their personal matter. Human rights of yakub memon, afzal guru are being discussed by people like u. What about gender equality in islam. What about human rights of a woman sharing her husband with 3 other women? What about human rights of SHAH BANO who was refused alimony. To appease muslims, SC ruling was overturned by congress govt despite having two-third majority in parliament.

U will have no answers to all the facts I have thrown at u in this thread. The only thing u can do is to call me names or feign ignorance of my statements.