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[Discussion] If Casteism and Communalism are bad, what makes feminism a good thing?

edited July 2014 in Essay
If Casteism and Communalism are bad, what makes feminism a good thing? Why don't we oppose all those who divide the society on any lines -Caste, Religion or Gender?

P.S: Hope to see a healthy "Essay" discussion on this topic! No personal vendetta, gender-biased or insensitive comments please.
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  • Feminism works to undermine the prevalent patriarchy and thereby works to achieve an egalitarian society. However some obnoxious hyper-feminists (misandrists) do vitiate the healthy discourse.
  • Casteism, communalism divide, exclude and often oppress. Feminism-liberal, egalitarian and progressive-unites by ensuring the upliftment and empowerment of a hitherto subjugated section, the female sex.
  • edited July 2014
    Feminism creates a wild-life society as it treats free sex and commodification of women as FREEDOM of women. Thus it helps in polluting the minds of coming generations and thereby undermines family system. It also helps in increasing sexual crimes on one side by promoting lust in society and then does drama by saying people as patriarchal.

    It also treats those women as slaves who work in family (house wives) because it publicizes that women working at home are dis-empowered and women blindly running after money and doing jobs are empowered.

    Whereas a patriarchal society supports respect for women supporting their home and condemns those women who promote indecency by their so called MODERNITY.

    It is because of the propaganda of feminism that many developed countries have virtually turned into BROTHELS because their schools and colleges have become sex centres (7.5 lakh girls become pregnant in USA during teenage, many of them in early 13-14 too). Their divorces rates are as high as 50%. And the number of children indulged in sexual crimes are increasing by leaps and bounds in those countries (and also in India in the name of FREEDOM).

    Kids in USA/UK have become porn addicts and rapes per 100000 population in those countries bypasses India but their media is not such RAPE-CENTRED as ours is.

    Feminism is much greater disease than any other problem as it directly breaks the entire family system and people who are brainwashed by main-stream media views blindly support it without looking at the problems it has created.
  • If Casteism and Communalism are bad, what makes feminism a good thing? Why don't we oppose all those who divide the society on any lines -Caste, Religion or Gender?

    P.S: Hope to see a healthy "Essay" discussion on this topic! No personal vendetta, gender-biased or insensitive comments please.
    It reminds me of class 10 when this discussion took place in my class.I hope you too have copied it from NCERT 10 Pol Sci book from Unni Munni cartoon.

    The only one thing I hate about this movement is that it often turns into "Men vs Women" rest I think there is strong need for this specially in countryside rural folk.
  • @Devika - Very good topic.


    Politically Casteism and communalism are negative concept whereas feminism is the positive concept.

    Scientifically When we talk about a subject then we need to identify the factors which helps us in determining the overall dimensions of the subject. Hence there could be various factors whose inclusion/exclusion either can have negative impact on the subject or positive.

    Feminism is such a dimension of the society which results in advocating the very half of a societies deprived rights.

    Similar we can add further theories, analogies into that.
  • Feminism works to undermine the prevalent patriarchy and thereby works to achieve an egalitarian society. However some obnoxious hyper-feminists (misandrists) do vitiate the healthy discourse.
    You summed it up, Arindam , exactly what I wanted to say. Feminism is distinct from misandry. For example, the actor Patrick Stewart is a prominent male feminist who works against domestic abuse(his mother is an abuse survivor) and for equal wages for women.
  • casteism and communalism are to make society unequal while feminism is to make an unequal society ( on basis of gender) equal.
  • @victor your face is a disease.
  • Some Feminist Quotes


    All men are rapists and that's all they are"
    -- Marilyn French

    all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent."
    -- Catharine MacKinnon

    The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" -- Ti-Grace Atkinson

    When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression." -- Sheila Jeffrys

    "Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated." -- Catherine MacKinnon

    "All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." -- Catherine MacKinnon


    "Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice." -- Ti-Grace Atkinson

    Underpatriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman." -- Andrea Dworkin


    If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males." --Mary Daly

    The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." -- Sally Miller Gearhart

    All men are good for is ****ing, and running over with a truck"

    "To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he's a machine, a walking dildo."
    -- Valerie Solanas

    Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." -- Sheila Cronin

    "I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig." -- Andrea Dworkin

    "Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice." -- Andrea Dworkin

    "Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin
    Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release."
    -- Germaine Greer

    Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." - Catherine Comins

    If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them." - David Angier

    Women have their faults , men have only two: everything they say , everything they do."
    -- Popular Feminist Graffiti

    "The nuclear family must be destroyed... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process." -- Linda Gordon

    "I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan,


    "We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage." -- Robin Morgan

    "I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire."
    -- Robin Morgan

    Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release."
    -- Germaine Greer

    The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist" - National NOW Times

    Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession... The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family- maker is a choice that shouldn't be. The heart of radicalfeminismis to change that." (Vivian Gornick

    We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men." -- Elizabeth Cady Stanton
  • Some Feminist Quotes


    All men are rapists and that's all they are"
    -- Marilyn French

    all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent."
    -- Catharine MacKinnon

    The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" -- Ti-Grace Atkinson

    When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression." -- Sheila Jeffrys

    "Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated." -- Catherine MacKinnon

    "All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." -- Catherine MacKinnon


    "Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice." -- Ti-Grace Atkinson

    Underpatriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman." -- Andrea Dworkin


    If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males." --Mary Daly

    The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." -- Sally Miller Gearhart

    All men are good for is ****ing, and running over with a truck"

    "To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he's a machine, a walking dildo."
    -- Valerie Solanas

    Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." -- Sheila Cronin

    "I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig." -- Andrea Dworkin

    "Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice." -- Andrea Dworkin

    "Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin
    Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release."
    -- Germaine Greer

    Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." - Catherine Comins

    If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them." - David Angier

    Women have their faults , men have only two: everything they say , everything they do."
    -- Popular Feminist Graffiti

    "The nuclear family must be destroyed... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process." -- Linda Gordon

    "I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan,


    "We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage." -- Robin Morgan

    "I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire."
    -- Robin Morgan

    Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release."
    -- Germaine Greer

    The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist" - National NOW Times

    Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession... The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family- maker is a choice that shouldn't be. The heart of radicalfeminismis to change that." (Vivian Gornick

    We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men." -- Elizabeth Cady Stanton
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