Why can doctors, lawyers and some others not apply for IFoS?

bearebel69

"(iii) MINIMUM EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS:
The candidate must hold a Bachelor's degree with at least one of the subjects
namely Animal Husbandry & Veterinary Science, Botany, Chemistry, Geology,
Mathematics, Physics, Statistics and Zoology
or a Bachelor's degree in Agriculture, Forestry or in Engineering"

What about Medical Science graduates?
They study Botany & Zoology at least in their 11th & 12th, where as some of the other streams mentioned above do not even touch these subjects.
Can somebody throw some light on the basis of their ineligibility.

Etat

Same question.

Pathology

only upsc knows

Vibin

They even allows BTech/BE Computer Science , Info Tech , but not BSc Computer science or BCA .. Strange .. (:|

Caartey

Sorry to disappoint you guys, but the reasoning behind not including Doctors could be much more simpler.
In a country with one doctor for every 1700 people with WHO mandated 1:1000 ratio itself being a pipe dream, that is when we don't consider their rural reluctance.
Now do you really think 10-20 doctors who might end up getting selected in the 85 vacancies are being treated unfairly? while in many disciplines like Agriculture thousands of graduates each year end up with no opportunities neither in their own field (no pun intended) nor anywhere else.

Disclaimer:
This is just my opinion/thoughts on this matter.
I have no particular knowledge of the reason why UPSC does so.

woman

I think it has something to do with the job requirements. Even those from humanities background are not allowed, lawyers too. May be for once, they have made choices selectively. Although I have no idea what those requirements might be.

Etat

Sorry to disappoint you guys, but the reasoning behind not including Doctors could be much more simpler.
In a country with one doctor for every 1700 people with WHO mandated 1:1000 ratio itself being a pipe dream, that is when we don't consider their rural reluctance.
Now do you really think 10-20 doctors who might end up getting selected in the 85 vacancies are being treated unfairly? while in many disciplines like Agriculture thousands of graduates each year end up with no opportunities neither in their own field (no pun intended) nor anywhere else.

Disclaimer:
This is just my opinion/thoughts on this matter.
I have no particular knowledge of the reason why UPSC does so.

There are major issues about the alleged "rural reluctance" that have been discussed at length in many editorials. Do give them a read before pointing fingers.

http://scepticemia.com/2014/02/13/rural-posting-post-mbbs-part-1-why-it-is-a-bad-idea/

And just because there aren't enough jobs for certain graduates doesn't mean that they'll be given some kind of precedence in civils.

Caartey

There are major issues about the alleged "rural reluctance" that have been discussed at length in many editorials. Do give them a read before pointing fingers.
http://scepticemia.com/2014/02/13/rural-posting-post-mbbs-part-1-why-it-is-a-bad-idea/

i was definitely not pointing fingers where did you get that idea...
Also My brother is a doctor, currently pursuing his M.S so i'm no stranger to the life and troubles of a medico

And just because there aren't enough jobs for certain graduates doesn't mean that they'll be given some kind of precedence in civils.

also i was not talking about civils, i was talking about IFoS...
In retrospect maybe i could have toned down the sarcasm a little but other than that i stand by every word...

final_touch

The Doctor:Patient ratio has always been overemphasized. The fact is many South Asian Countries outperform India in Important Indicators like Malnutrition and MMR, IMR and this inspite of poor Doctor:Patient ratio as compared to India.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/235953/indias-infant-mortality-rate-worst.html
http://apps.who.int/gho/data/node.main.A1444
Major Health challenges like Maternal and Child Malnutition, Undernutriton that India faces today are very much preventable by providing good nutrition and health education. Pneumonia, diarrhea and anemia may be the immediate cause but underlying cause is poor nutrition. Now please don't tell me doctors are responsible for these deaths. India's expenditure on health as percentage of GDP is dismally low. Then there is issue of governments running away from opening medical colleges, flourishing of some sub standard private medical colleges, commercialization of medical education (most of the private medical colleges and universities in my state are run by politicians- obviously not run out of any philanthropic motive) etc. There are many such issue which collectively affect India's health scenario.
So, my countrymen please try to look beyond Doctor:Patient ratio. I have much more things to say but these are outside the scope of this forum. May be I will tell them in Interview directly.

Sanpas

If you can recruit a humanities graduate and train him to audit government accounts or supervise tax collection, there is no reason why he can not be trained to supervise conservation and development of forests. If job requirements were so connected to academic qualifications we would be having only CAs recruited to IAAS and IRS. Clubbing IFoS vacancies with Civil Services makes greater sense. It will also reduce the workload of UPSC as it wouldn't have to conduct a separate exam every year.