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Some Tips for Philosophy Optional + Best Wishes!

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  • @Neyawn thanks sirji for your inputs....in her article on mitraias juhi jalota is advocating use of own stuff for paper2 while you are advising to use thinkers instead of own stuff in religion(which fetched less marks to her in previous attempts) so what can be consensus here?
    No one knows nothing. The year you are destined to become you will become.
    The ideas that noone knows nothing, you will get selected when your time will come, upsc is lottery , prelims is astrology and luck unfortunately do not offer a roadmap for preparation. Avoid making such generalisations. People strategise, prepare and put in effort on the basis of their learnings and the learnings of others.

    This is a self help platform, not a place for proclaiming that nothing can be ever known. Such skepticism is neither good for the exam, nor for overall approach to life.

    If you can offer solutions and insights, do so. They may be right, they may be wrong. Do not create skepticism here , and if you have philosophy optional, you would know what i mean when I say skepticism.
    UPSC is a black hole. No one knows what works. Upto certain level hardwork helps after that no one knows nothing. Making into list is not luck but what rank one gets is pure luck. I remember the comment made by your poster boy on the day results were about to come. The poster boy said i think i will not be selected again. In retrospect 100 things you can say to rationalize failures and success. Humans are the most irrational creatures with rationalizations for everything.

    The world is based on events which are beyond human factors. Is it a coincidence or human ability that we reached here. What about if that meteor never struck earth and dinosaurs didn't went extinct to make new ecological niches available for humans to come down from arboreal life to ground.


    When different people check copies of different people it isn't difficult to understand the biases and subjectivity of process and one doesn't need philosophy optional to understand such basic common sense stuff. On what basis you distinguish 5 from 5.5. And there are 120qs 2 essays 1 interview.. So even if 0.5 mark is different ends up being 60-70 marks. And that is more than the difference between IAS and those that don't make into list.

    And to ensure further that no one knows what works is the fact that upsc says we don't provide any model answers. So just rationalizations. Some don't draw diagrams and get 450 in GS but coaching promote as if diagrams are ultimate supper to examiner.

    In the end for your philosophy comment,

    neither by reading philosophy one becomes a philosopher nor one needs to read philosophy to understand such basic stuff.
    +1
  • @Neyawn thanks sirji for your inputs....in her article on mitraias juhi jalota is advocating use of own stuff for paper2 while you are advising to use thinkers instead of own stuff in religion(which fetched less marks to her in previous attempts) so what can be consensus here?
    No one knows nothing. The year you are destined to become you will become.
    The ideas that noone knows nothing, you will get selected when your time will come, upsc is lottery , prelims is astrology and luck unfortunately do not offer a roadmap for preparation. Avoid making such generalisations. People strategise, prepare and put in effort on the basis of their learnings and the learnings of others.

    This is a self help platform, not a place for proclaiming that nothing can be ever known. Such skepticism is neither good for the exam, nor for overall approach to life.

    If you can offer solutions and insights, do so. They may be right, they may be wrong. Do not create skepticism here , and if you have philosophy optional, you would know what i mean when I say skepticism.
    UPSC is a black hole. No one knows what works. Upto certain level hardwork helps after that no one knows nothing. Making into list is not luck but what rank one gets is pure luck. I remember the comment made by your poster boy on the day results were about to come. The poster boy said i think i will not be selected again. In retrospect 100 things you can say to rationalize failures and success. Humans are the most irrational creatures with rationalizations for everything.

    The world is based on events which are beyond human factors. Is it a coincidence or human ability that we reached here. What about if that meteor never struck earth and dinosaurs didn't went extinct to make new ecological niches available for humans to come down from arboreal life to ground.


    When different people check copies of different people it isn't difficult to understand the biases and subjectivity of process and one doesn't need philosophy optional to understand such basic common sense stuff. On what basis you distinguish 5 from 5.5. And there are 120qs 2 essays 1 interview.. So even if 0.5 mark is different ends up being 60-70 marks. And that is more than the difference between IAS and those that don't make into list.

    And to ensure further that no one knows what works is the fact that upsc says we don't provide any model answers. So just rationalizations. Some don't draw diagrams and get 450 in GS but coaching promote as if diagrams are ultimate supper to examiner.

    In the end for your philosophy comment,

    neither by reading philosophy one becomes a philosopher nor one needs to read philosophy to understand such basic stuff.
    +100

    Agree with each and every statement of yours....
  • Optimism is not only false but pernicious doctrine for it presents life as desirable state and man 's happiness as its aim and object.Pessimism at least doesn 't create illusions.(chatterjee and dutta)
    Yet optimism is best wager.
  • Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. - Albert Einstein

    Anyways, let me get back to books. :)
  • @Neyawn thanks sirji for your inputs....in her article on mitraias juhi jalota is advocating use of own stuff for paper2 while you are advising to use thinkers instead of own stuff in religion(which fetched less marks to her in previous attempts) so what can be consensus here?
    No one knows nothing. The year you are destined to become you will become.
    The ideas that noone knows nothing, you will get selected when your time will come, upsc is lottery , prelims is astrology and luck unfortunately do not offer a roadmap for preparation. Avoid making such generalisations. People strategise, prepare and put in effort on the basis of their learnings and the learnings of others.

    This is a self help platform, not a place for proclaiming that nothing can be ever known. Such skepticism is neither good for the exam, nor for overall approach to life.

    If you can offer solutions and insights, do so. They may be right, they may be wrong. Do not create skepticism here , and if you have philosophy optional, you would know what i mean when I say skepticism.
    UPSC is a black hole. No one knows what works. Upto certain level hardwork helps after that no one knows nothing. Making into list is not luck but what rank one gets is pure luck. I remember the comment made by your poster boy on the day results were about to come. The poster boy said i think i will not be selected again. In retrospect 100 things you can say to rationalize failures and success. Humans are the most irrational creatures with rationalizations for everything.

    The world is based on events which are beyond human factors. Is it a coincidence or human ability that we reached here. What about if that meteor never struck earth and dinosaurs didn't went extinct to make new ecological niches available for humans to come down from arboreal life to ground.


    When different people check copies of different people it isn't difficult to understand the biases and subjectivity of process and one doesn't need philosophy optional to understand such basic common sense stuff. On what basis you distinguish 5 from 5.5. And there are 120qs 2 essays 1 interview.. So even if 0.5 mark is different ends up being 60-70 marks. And that is more than the difference between IAS and those that don't make into list.

    And to ensure further that no one knows what works is the fact that upsc says we don't provide any model answers. So just rationalizations. Some don't draw diagrams and get 450 in GS but coaching promote as if diagrams are ultimate supper to examiner.

    In the end for your philosophy comment,

    neither by reading philosophy one becomes a philosopher nor one needs to read philosophy to understand such basic stuff.
    +1

  • @Neyawn thanks sirji for your inputs....in her article on mitraias juhi jalota is advocating use of own stuff for paper2 while you are advising to use thinkers instead of own stuff in religion(which fetched less marks to her in previous attempts) so what can be consensus here?
    No one knows nothing. The year you are destined to become you will become.
    The ideas that noone knows nothing, you will get selected when your time will come, upsc is lottery , prelims is astrology and luck unfortunately do not offer a roadmap for preparation. Avoid making such generalisations. People strategise, prepare and put in effort on the basis of their learnings and the learnings of others.

    This is a self help platform, not a place for proclaiming that nothing can be ever known. Such skepticism is neither good for the exam, nor for overall approach to life.

    If you can offer solutions and insights, do so. They may be right, they may be wrong. Do not create skepticism here , and if you have philosophy optional, you would know what i mean when I say skepticism.
    UPSC is a black hole. No one knows what works. Upto certain level hardwork helps after that no one knows nothing. Making into list is not luck but what rank one gets is pure luck. I remember the comment made by your poster boy on the day results were about to come. The poster boy said i think i will not be selected again. In retrospect 100 things you can say to rationalize failures and success. Humans are the most irrational creatures with rationalizations for everything.

    The world is based on events which are beyond human factors. Is it a coincidence or human ability that we reached here. What about if that meteor never struck earth and dinosaurs didn't went extinct to make new ecological niches available for humans to come down from arboreal life to ground.


    When different people check copies of different people it isn't difficult to understand the biases and subjectivity of process and one doesn't need philosophy optional to understand such basic common sense stuff. On what basis you distinguish 5 from 5.5. And there are 120qs 2 essays 1 interview.. So even if 0.5 mark is different ends up being 60-70 marks. And that is more than the difference between IAS and those that don't make into list.

    And to ensure further that no one knows what works is the fact that upsc says we don't provide any model answers. So just rationalizations. Some don't draw diagrams and get 450 in GS but coaching promote as if diagrams are ultimate supper to examiner.

    In the end for your philosophy comment,

    neither by reading philosophy one becomes a philosopher nor one needs to read philosophy to understand such basic stuff.
    World isn't random or planned. It simply unfolds the way you want it to.
    Yes, it's dynamic when you are on the passenger seat. But if you try gaining control from the driver's seat, it's not so bad. You can cruise linearly.

    The reason why everyone experiences different things is not because the world is different. It's because we see and understand things differently. Inequality(not the economics wala) is what fuels the engine of the existence, because it brings uniqueness and variety.

    So over a period of time, everyone gets their fair share of petals and thorns. The only way to move forward is to remove the thorns and embrace the petals. And if possible, share your petals with others, it'll help them in their difficult times. Don't throw your thorns on somebody, even if it's for the right intentions.

    It's good to make people aware about the uncertainties. It's also good to tell them in a hopeful way. Because if you kill hopes, you kill the very reason to live. For once, embrace the life with humility, compassion, love and optimism. You may or may not become the greatest, but you'll definitely smile at the end of it. :)

    I humbly apologize for the unsolicited words. Have a peaceful and great day ahead :)
    Nothing to apologize. It's just widening the perspectives. I suppose i didn't sound pessimist as i believe hardwork pays but only to an extent. However the fact remains humans are nevet drivers. Universe unfolds as it has to and not as we want.

    If it unfolded the way we wanted there would be no illness poverty injustice in world. As upsc aspirant i assume none knows better than you the extent of injustice in world

    And i don't know why the question of inequality was raised by you. But still my understanding goes that , Variety does lead to uncertainties equally in this exam and also then fails the assumption of coaching wallah that we know the code to crack cse.
  • Optimism is not only false but pernicious doctrine for it presents life as desirable state and man 's happiness as its aim and object.Pessimism at least doesn 't create illusions.(chatterjee and dutta)
    Yet optimism is best wager.
    If not for pessimism why we create defence strategies and procure weapons.
    So too much optimism is foolishness and too much pessimism is paralyzing.

    I just meant to say hardwork is not futile but it may not be everything. Several factors at work.
  • @Neyawn thanks sirji for your inputs....in her article on mitraias juhi jalota is advocating use of own stuff for paper2 while you are advising to use thinkers instead of own stuff in religion(which fetched less marks to her in previous attempts) so what can be consensus here?
    No one knows nothing. The year you are destined to become you will become.
    The ideas that noone knows nothing, you will get selected when your time will come, upsc is lottery , prelims is astrology and luck unfortunately do not offer a roadmap for preparation. Avoid making such generalisations. People strategise, prepare and put in effort on the basis of their learnings and the learnings of others.

    This is a self help platform, not a place for proclaiming that nothing can be ever known. Such skepticism is neither good for the exam, nor for overall approach to life.

    If you can offer solutions and insights, do so. They may be right, they may be wrong. Do not create skepticism here , and if you have philosophy optional, you would know what i mean when I say skepticism.
    UPSC is a black hole. No one knows what works. Upto certain level hardwork helps after that no one knows nothing. Making into list is not luck but what rank one gets is pure luck. I remember the comment made by your poster boy on the day results were about to come. The poster boy said i think i will not be selected again. In retrospect 100 things you can say to rationalize failures and success. Humans are the most irrational creatures with rationalizations for everything.

    The world is based on events which are beyond human factors. Is it a coincidence or human ability that we reached here. What about if that meteor never struck earth and dinosaurs didn't went extinct to make new ecological niches available for humans to come down from arboreal life to ground.


    When different people check copies of different people it isn't difficult to understand the biases and subjectivity of process and one doesn't need philosophy optional to understand such basic common sense stuff. On what basis you distinguish 5 from 5.5. And there are 120qs 2 essays 1 interview.. So even if 0.5 mark is different ends up being 60-70 marks. And that is more than the difference between IAS and those that don't make into list.

    And to ensure further that no one knows what works is the fact that upsc says we don't provide any model answers. So just rationalizations. Some don't draw diagrams and get 450 in GS but coaching promote as if diagrams are ultimate supper to examiner.

    In the end for your philosophy comment,

    neither by reading philosophy one becomes a philosopher nor one needs to read philosophy to understand such basic stuff.
    +1
    @Neyawn thanks sirji for your inputs....in her article on mitraias juhi jalota is advocating use of own stuff for paper2 while you are advising to use thinkers instead of own stuff in religion(which fetched less marks to her in previous attempts) so what can be consensus here?
    No one knows nothing. The year you are destined to become you will become.
    The ideas that noone knows nothing, you will get selected when your time will come, upsc is lottery , prelims is astrology and luck unfortunately do not offer a roadmap for preparation. Avoid making such generalisations. People strategise, prepare and put in effort on the basis of their learnings and the learnings of others.

    This is a self help platform, not a place for proclaiming that nothing can be ever known. Such skepticism is neither good for the exam, nor for overall approach to life.

    If you can offer solutions and insights, do so. They may be right, they may be wrong. Do not create skepticism here , and if you have philosophy optional, you would know what i mean when I say skepticism.
    UPSC is a black hole. No one knows what works. Upto certain level hardwork helps after that no one knows nothing. Making into list is not luck but what rank one gets is pure luck. I remember the comment made by your poster boy on the day results were about to come. The poster boy said i think i will not be selected again. In retrospect 100 things you can say to rationalize failures and success. Humans are the most irrational creatures with rationalizations for everything.

    The world is based on events which are beyond human factors. Is it a coincidence or human ability that we reached here. What about if that meteor never struck earth and dinosaurs didn't went extinct to make new ecological niches available for humans to come down from arboreal life to ground.


    When different people check copies of different people it isn't difficult to understand the biases and subjectivity of process and one doesn't need philosophy optional to understand such basic common sense stuff. On what basis you distinguish 5 from 5.5. And there are 120qs 2 essays 1 interview.. So even if 0.5 mark is different ends up being 60-70 marks. And that is more than the difference between IAS and those that don't make into list.

    And to ensure further that no one knows what works is the fact that upsc says we don't provide any model answers. So just rationalizations. Some don't draw diagrams and get 450 in GS but coaching promote as if diagrams are ultimate supper to examiner.

    In the end for your philosophy comment,

    neither by reading philosophy one becomes a philosopher nor one needs to read philosophy to understand such basic stuff.
    +100

    Agree with each and every statement of yours....
    Thanks a lot to both of you. Nothing against anyone but don't know glorification of anything seems so feudalistic.
  • @Neyawn thanks sirji for your inputs....in her article on mitraias juhi jalota is advocating use of own stuff for paper2 while you are advising to use thinkers instead of own stuff in religion(which fetched less marks to her in previous attempts) so what can be consensus here?
    No one knows nothing. The year you are destined to become you will become.
    The ideas that noone knows nothing, you will get selected when your time will come, upsc is lottery , prelims is astrology and luck unfortunately do not offer a roadmap for preparation. Avoid making such generalisations. People strategise, prepare and put in effort on the basis of their learnings and the learnings of others.

    This is a self help platform, not a place for proclaiming that nothing can be ever known. Such skepticism is neither good for the exam, nor for overall approach to life.

    If you can offer solutions and insights, do so. They may be right, they may be wrong. Do not create skepticism here , and if you have philosophy optional, you would know what i mean when I say skepticism.
    UPSC is a black hole. No one knows what works. Upto certain level hardwork helps after that no one knows nothing. Making into list is not luck but what rank one gets is pure luck. I remember the comment made by your poster boy on the day results were about to come. The poster boy said i think i will not be selected again. In retrospect 100 things you can say to rationalize failures and success. Humans are the most irrational creatures with rationalizations for everything.

    The world is based on events which are beyond human factors. Is it a coincidence or human ability that we reached here. What about if that meteor never struck earth and dinosaurs didn't went extinct to make new ecological niches available for humans to come down from arboreal life to ground.


    When different people check copies of different people it isn't difficult to understand the biases and subjectivity of process and one doesn't need philosophy optional to understand such basic common sense stuff. On what basis you distinguish 5 from 5.5. And there are 120qs 2 essays 1 interview.. So even if 0.5 mark is different ends up being 60-70 marks. And that is more than the difference between IAS and those that don't make into list.

    And to ensure further that no one knows what works is the fact that upsc says we don't provide any model answers. So just rationalizations. Some don't draw diagrams and get 450 in GS but coaching promote as if diagrams are ultimate supper to examiner.

    In the end for your philosophy comment,

    neither by reading philosophy one becomes a philosopher nor one needs to read philosophy to understand such basic stuff.
    +1
    @Neyawn thanks sirji for your inputs....in her article on mitraias juhi jalota is advocating use of own stuff for paper2 while you are advising to use thinkers instead of own stuff in religion(which fetched less marks to her in previous attempts) so what can be consensus here?
    No one knows nothing. The year you are destined to become you will become.
    The ideas that noone knows nothing, you will get selected when your time will come, upsc is lottery , prelims is astrology and luck unfortunately do not offer a roadmap for preparation. Avoid making such generalisations. People strategise, prepare and put in effort on the basis of their learnings and the learnings of others.

    This is a self help platform, not a place for proclaiming that nothing can be ever known. Such skepticism is neither good for the exam, nor for overall approach to life.

    If you can offer solutions and insights, do so. They may be right, they may be wrong. Do not create skepticism here , and if you have philosophy optional, you would know what i mean when I say skepticism.
    UPSC is a black hole. No one knows what works. Upto certain level hardwork helps after that no one knows nothing. Making into list is not luck but what rank one gets is pure luck. I remember the comment made by your poster boy on the day results were about to come. The poster boy said i think i will not be selected again. In retrospect 100 things you can say to rationalize failures and success. Humans are the most irrational creatures with rationalizations for everything.

    The world is based on events which are beyond human factors. Is it a coincidence or human ability that we reached here. What about if that meteor never struck earth and dinosaurs didn't went extinct to make new ecological niches available for humans to come down from arboreal life to ground.


    When different people check copies of different people it isn't difficult to understand the biases and subjectivity of process and one doesn't need philosophy optional to understand such basic common sense stuff. On what basis you distinguish 5 from 5.5. And there are 120qs 2 essays 1 interview.. So even if 0.5 mark is different ends up being 60-70 marks. And that is more than the difference between IAS and those that don't make into list.

    And to ensure further that no one knows what works is the fact that upsc says we don't provide any model answers. So just rationalizations. Some don't draw diagrams and get 450 in GS but coaching promote as if diagrams are ultimate supper to examiner.

    In the end for your philosophy comment,

    neither by reading philosophy one becomes a philosopher nor one needs to read philosophy to understand such basic stuff.
    +100

    Agree with each and every statement of yours....
    Thanks a lot to both of you. Nothing against anyone but don't know glorification of anything seems so feudalistic.
    Koi nhi bhai...Have seen a lot of these antics over the years...Ab to aadat si ho gyi hai...I just hate the narcissistic tone that one depicts showing "One knows everything, whereas Others are just pure Idiots"...Baki you have covered everything...No one is denying importance of hard work...It's just that UPSC has higher amount of uncertainty compared to other exams like CAT,GMAT etc....
  • edited October 2018
    @Neyawn thanks sirji for your inputs....in her article on mitraias juhi jalota is advocating use of own stuff for paper2 while you are advising to use thinkers instead of own stuff in religion(which fetched less marks to her in previous attempts) so what can be consensus here?
    No one knows nothing. The year you are destined to become you will become.
    The ideas that noone knows nothing, you will get selected when your time will come, upsc is lottery , prelims is astrology and luck unfortunately do not offer a roadmap for preparation. Avoid making such generalisations. People strategise, prepare and put in effort on the basis of their learnings and the learnings of others.

    This is a self help platform, not a place for proclaiming that nothing can be ever known. Such skepticism is neither good for the exam, nor for overall approach to life.

    If you can offer solutions and insights, do so. They may be right, they may be wrong. Do not create skepticism here , and if you have philosophy optional, you would know what i mean when I say skepticism.
    UPSC is a black hole. No one knows what works. Upto certain level hardwork helps after that no one knows nothing. Making into list is not luck but what rank one gets is pure luck. I remember the comment made by your poster boy on the day results were about to come. The poster boy said i think i will not be selected again. In retrospect 100 things you can say to rationalize failures and success. Humans are the most irrational creatures with rationalizations for everything.

    The world is based on events which are beyond human factors. Is it a coincidence or human ability that we reached here. What about if that meteor never struck earth and dinosaurs didn't went extinct to make new ecological niches available for humans to come down from arboreal life to ground.


    When different people check copies of different people it isn't difficult to understand the biases and subjectivity of process and one doesn't need philosophy optional to understand such basic common sense stuff. On what basis you distinguish 5 from 5.5. And there are 120qs 2 essays 1 interview.. So even if 0.5 mark is different ends up being 60-70 marks. And that is more than the difference between IAS and those that don't make into list.

    And to ensure further that no one knows what works is the fact that upsc says we don't provide any model answers. So just rationalizations. Some don't draw diagrams and get 450 in GS but coaching promote as if diagrams are ultimate supper to examiner.

    In the end for your philosophy comment,

    neither by reading philosophy one becomes a philosopher nor one needs to read philosophy to understand such basic stuff.
    +1
    @Neyawn thanks sirji for your inputs....in her article on mitraias juhi jalota is advocating use of own stuff for paper2 while you are advising to use thinkers instead of own stuff in religion(which fetched less marks to her in previous attempts) so what can be consensus here?
    No one knows nothing. The year you are destined to become you will become.
    The ideas that noone knows nothing, you will get selected when your time will come, upsc is lottery , prelims is astrology and luck unfortunately do not offer a roadmap for preparation. Avoid making such generalisations. People strategise, prepare and put in effort on the basis of their learnings and the learnings of others.

    This is a self help platform, not a place for proclaiming that nothing can be ever known. Such skepticism is neither good for the exam, nor for overall approach to life.

    If you can offer solutions and insights, do so. They may be right, they may be wrong. Do not create skepticism here , and if you have philosophy optional, you would know what i mean when I say skepticism.
    UPSC is a black hole. No one knows what works. Upto certain level hardwork helps after that no one knows nothing. Making into list is not luck but what rank one gets is pure luck. I remember the comment made by your poster boy on the day results were about to come. The poster boy said i think i will not be selected again. In retrospect 100 things you can say to rationalize failures and success. Humans are the most irrational creatures with rationalizations for everything.

    The world is based on events which are beyond human factors. Is it a coincidence or human ability that we reached here. What about if that meteor never struck earth and dinosaurs didn't went extinct to make new ecological niches available for humans to come down from arboreal life to ground.


    When different people check copies of different people it isn't difficult to understand the biases and subjectivity of process and one doesn't need philosophy optional to understand such basic common sense stuff. On what basis you distinguish 5 from 5.5. And there are 120qs 2 essays 1 interview.. So even if 0.5 mark is different ends up being 60-70 marks. And that is more than the difference between IAS and those that don't make into list.

    And to ensure further that no one knows what works is the fact that upsc says we don't provide any model answers. So just rationalizations. Some don't draw diagrams and get 450 in GS but coaching promote as if diagrams are ultimate supper to examiner.

    In the end for your philosophy comment,

    neither by reading philosophy one becomes a philosopher nor one needs to read philosophy to understand such basic stuff.
    +100

    Agree with each and every statement of yours....
    Thanks a lot to both of you. Nothing against anyone but don't know glorification of anything seems so feudalistic.
    Koi nhi bhai...Have seen a lot of these antics over the years...Ab to aadat si ho gyi hai...I just hate the narcissistic tone that one depicts showing "One knows everything, whereas Others are just pure Idiots"...Baki you have covered everything...No one is denying importance of hard work...It's just that UPSC has higher amount of uncertainty compared to other exams like CAT,GMAT etc....
    Very true. Just reminds me of iit bombay guy who got 880+ marks last year and was out of list as was awarded less than 120 marks in interview in his last attempt.

    People die sleeping in trains, syrian refugees, terror bomb blast victims for what reason those people die. Yes if we talk in term of rationalization by coaching people, there is a reason.. they were slow to run and judge an accident is about to happen so they died. Is this skepticism or reality , it isn't that tough to understand that one needs philosophy optional.

    I don't understand how one can completely neglect luck. World is based on chance and it is too egoistic to say i win as i have ability. What if someone was born in poor family and child labour was his destiny.

    My point was completely missed by the person in display of vain glory that how toppers strategize and learn. Yet takes 5 attempt to clear mains in general category. Such exemplary strategy making.

    I will refrain from this thread. Don't want to sound lamenting
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