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It's shameful that UPSC itself not confident justifying their Questions and Answers!

How releasing answer key immediately after prelims exam can affect the exam process?

If UPSC can justify their Q&A or their decision to drop some controversial questions from valuation how someone can obtain stay from court?

UPSC logic is total nonsense and insane. These guys who believe this absurd logic are deciding lakhs of aspirants' future (hard to trust their ability to judge candidates on personality test)

It's high time that we should demand answer key for 2018 prelims immediately after exam (June 3rd)
As time is short, it's not fruitful to engage in this until exam over.
But immediately after exam (on June 3rd) we thousands of aspirants should file RTI for asking answer key and let that reach political level with widespread attention through media etc.
If UPSC refuse to give, we should file case (it should be done properly by following sound legal advice like petitioners should be the prelims candidates (locus standi) not PIL (earlier court said their is no public interest in this) and should be represented in large numbers to add credibility to the petition.

Minimum requirement from UPSC
1. Releasing tentative answer key within a week (ideally in 3 working days) and get suggestions/ grievances from aspirants etc
2. Release final official answer key and details if any questions are dropped within 10-15 days.

Without arriving at final decision how ********* they start evaluation?!
I expect aspirants to do this min action immediately after exam (on June 4th).
AIR '000' UPSC Lottery Service :#
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  • edited May 11
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  • It's shameful that UPSC itself not confident justifying their Questions and Answers!

    How releasing answer key immediately after prelims exam can affect the exam process?

    If UPSC can justify their Q&A or their decision to drop some controversial questions from valuation how someone can obtain stay from court?

    UPSC logic is total nonsense and insane. These guys who believe this absurd logic are deciding lakhs of aspirants' future (hard to trust their ability to judge candidates on personality test)

    It's high time that we should demand answer key for 2018 prelims immediately after exam (June 3rd)
    As time is short, it's not fruitful to engage in this until exam over.
    But immediately after exam (on June 3rd) we thousands of aspirants should file RTI for asking answer key and let that reach political level with widespread attention through media etc.
    If UPSC refuse to give, we should file case (it should be done properly by following sound legal advice like petitioners should be the prelims candidates (locus standi) not PIL (earlier court said their is no public interest in this) and should be represented in large numbers to add credibility to the petition.

    Minimum requirement from UPSC
    1. Releasing tentative answer key within a week (ideally in 3 working days) and get suggestions/ grievances from aspirants etc
    2. Release final official answer key and details if any questions are dropped within 10-15 days.

    Without arriving at final decision how ********* they start evaluation?!
    I expect aspirants to do this min action immediately after exam (on June 4th).

    It's time we pulled an Andy Dufresne (not Brock Lesnar) on UPSC.
  • edited May 11
    UPSC can add declaration in notification, exam instruction also as "commission reserves its right to drop any question from valuation" also it can be added as in application declaration, so aspirants who acknowledge that while applying and cannot question UPSC decision to drop questions.

    It's very simple thing. But actions of UPSC makes it suspicious. Nobody question their answers that leased just before next prelims, nobody (atleast not everyone) verify their marks declared are tallying with their answers.

    PS: I suspect UPSC tweak aspirants prelims marks (those who cleared with last cutoff and who missed in points) to match with the results.
    AIR '000' UPSC Lottery Service :#
  • MPSC releases answer keys immediately within 8 days of the exam and invites applications for the disputed questions from aspirants themselves and after scrutinising the objections they release final answer keys before the final results. This is the process upsc should follow.
  • edited May 11
    upsc is the most transparent organization in india. We should respect their work. Its not easy to conduct 50 exam a year and still gives result within a year without any fuss.



  • upsc is the most transparent organization in india. We should respect their work. Its not easy to conduct 50 exam a year and still gives result within a year without any fuss.

    Without any fuss? Get your facts right first.
  • Dead Man said:

    MPSC releases answer keys immediately within 8 days of the exam and invites applications for the disputed questions from aspirants themselves and after scrutinising the objections they release final answer keys before the final results. This is the process upsc should follow.

    upsc will never follow such things, these things delays the process u all know how state psc conduct exam and gives result. it takes min 2 years in most of the state to declare final result


  • feluda said:

    upsc is the most transparent organization in india. We should respect their work. Its not easy to conduct 50 exam a year and still gives result within a year without any fuss.

    Without any fuss? Get your facts right first.
    I havent seen any case over upsc related to exam they conduct process smootly


  • krrkrr
    edited May 11

    upsc is the most transparent organization in india. We should respect their work. Its not easy to conduct 50 exam a year and still gives result within a year without any fuss.

    i agree with it largely. i fear upsc being embroiled in litigations for frivolous reasons, as we see in state psc. and then it won't be able to conduct exams annually. upsc has pretty good record in conducting exams
  • upsc is the most transparent organization in india. We should respect their work. Its not easy to conduct 50 exam a year and still gives result within a year without any fuss.

    why should we respect their work?Free mein nahi kaam karte, taxpayers ka paisa lagtaa hai iss constitutional body ko run karne ke liye.
    The day we decided that the worth of an individual was determined by their performance in an examination, that was the day Education failed us.
  • The problems solutions is simple- mass pprotest- not only by rural aspirant but by urbans aspirants as well. And Ask our elected Netas - why such hypocrisy is displayed by an organization which itself claims to be most transparent.
    But it ll not happen- urban elites ll find this opportunity to study and then rural aspirants will do the same after getting police danda.
    Here, future bureaucrats- who write such a good answers in mains - show how balanced their thinking is - must realise this is effective ONLY on paper- real issues are solved on ground- by action. Maintaining neutrality is good but it is evil when time demands you to take action.
    " worst places in hell r reserved 4 those who in time of crises maintain neutrality"
    Also - litigation in courts ans delay of process is not a good enough reason - bcoz Govt can always submit in court - let the process continue- and if any indiscripencies r found - Govt ll withhold d reasult of such candidate.
    But Govt ll not do it- dont want any litigation on matters related to countries youth- but are happy to fight many unnecessary litigation in other areas.
    SSC people were far better ij this regard. They fought for their right have good political aptitude.
    Last year - what Mr Karim,IPS did - can anyone tell me what is the update on that news? Did anyone asked any questions as how big their racket was - how many people were involved?

    How easy it is - to hide behid a solid wall and claim - I am transparent.
  • upsc is doing good work given the constraints we have in our country. if matters are dragged to court, then its condition will be reduced to like that of state pcs which conduct exams once in a 5 year. i personally feel that upsc should give pre answer key just few days after the pre exam, mains marksheets of mains failed candidates on mains result day itself etc but on condition that it won't entertain any complaint or query or litigation whatsoever on these things.
  • adopt urself to upsc...coz it wont adopt to u. many tried and failed to change upsc. compared to state psc upsc is zillion times better.
    Saregamapa upsc ke chakkar mein hogayi budhapa..(26 yr old)
  • krr said:

    upsc is the most transparent organization in india. We should respect their work. Its not easy to conduct 50 exam a year and still gives result within a year without any fuss.

    i agree with it largely. i fear upsc being embroiled in litigations for frivolous reasons, as we see in state psc. and then it won't be able to conduct exams annually. upsc has pretty good record in conducting exams
    There should be no trade offs between transparency and maintaining schedule.
  • edited May 11


    Last year - what Mr Karim,IPS did - can anyone tell me what is the update on that news? Did anyone asked any questions as how big their racket was - how many people were involved?

    How easy it is - to hide behid a solid wall and claim - I am transparent.

    Yes while we running rate race there are moles, loopholes etc
    What is the use of study if we r get cheated year after years!

    How can UPSC start evaluation without answer key?
    How releasing that can delay the exam process? (given its is fair enough to justify in any court)
    Why these many days after final results UPSC sleeping with 2017 answer key?
    AIR '000' UPSC Lottery Service :#
  • The problems solutions is simple- mass pprotest- not only by rural aspirant but by urbans aspirants as well. And Ask our elected Netas - why such hypocrisy is displayed by an organization which itself claims to be most transparent.
    But it ll not happen- urban elites ll find this opportunity to study and then rural aspirants will do the same after getting police danda.
    Here, future bureaucrats- who write such a good answers in mains - show how balanced their thinking is - must realise this is effective ONLY on paper- real issues are solved on ground- by action. Maintaining neutrality is good but it is evil when time demands you to take action.
    " worst places in hell r reserved 4 those who in time of crises maintain neutrality"
    Also - litigation in courts ans delay of process is not a good enough reason - bcoz Govt can always submit in court - let the process continue- and if any indiscripencies r found - Govt ll withhold d reasult of such candidate.
    But Govt ll not do it- dont want any litigation on matters related to countries youth- but are happy to fight many unnecessary litigation in other areas.
    SSC people were far better ij this regard. They fought for their right have good political aptitude.
    Last year - what Mr Karim,IPS did - can anyone tell me what is the update on that news? Did anyone asked any questions as how big their racket was - how many people were involved?

    How easy it is - to hide behid a solid wall and claim - I am transparent.

    Agreed. On all the points.
  • pre ka marks aj ayega kya?
  • The rats are discussing how to bell the cat, no...no.. UPSC. :mrgreen:
  • upsc is the most transparent organization in india. We should respect their work. Its not easy to conduct 50 exam a year and still gives result within a year without any fuss.

    Yes, every one is innocent and every organization is transparent unless proved otherwise.
    If we are not seeing inside of it how we can ever know how transparent it is.
    "Rise and rise again and again, Like the Phoenix from the ashes Until the lambs have become lions and the rule of Darkness is no more”
  • upsc is the most transparent organization in india. We should respect their work. Its not easy to conduct 50 exam a year and still gives result within a year without any fuss.

    That's not transparent, that's efficient..!! UPSC is like black hole,all answer sheet goes inside it and disappear, you can never get it back..!!
  • What right an aspiring employee possess that he wants to dictate his terms to make the recruitment process more transparent ?

    Is it not the prerogative of the employer to have the amount of transparency, or the lack thereof, in the recruitment process ?

    If an aspiring employee is unhappy with a particular organisation's recruitment policy, then should he not discard that organisation and look for another organisation whose recruitment process suits him ?

    At best, the aspiring employee can give his suggestions. How can filing a lawsuit against an organisation to make it twist it's recruitment process be called rational or logical? Sure, if there's evidence of corruption/cheating, by all means drag UPSC to court!

    Find out the flaw in my common sense or knowledge! I'm still learning.
  • edited May 11

    What right an aspiring employee possess that he wants to dictate his terms to make the recruitment process more transparent ?

    Is it not the prerogative of the employer to have the amount of transparency, or the lack thereof, in the recruitment process ?

    If an aspiring employee is unhappy with a particular organisation's recruitment policy, then should he not discard that organisation and look for another organisation whose recruitment process suits him ?

    At best, the aspiring employee can give his suggestions. How can filing a lawsuit against an organisation to make it twist it's recruitment process be called rational or logical? Sure, if there's evidence of corruption/cheating, by all means drag UPSC to court!

    Find out the flaw in my common sense or knowledge! I'm still learning.

    Full of flaws. The organization in question is not a private enterprise, but a public constitutional body of a sovereign, socialist, secular democratic republic. So lack of transparency is out of question.

    PS:- I am not pointing out that UPSC is not transparent enough.
    An Ounce of Action Is Worth a Ton of Theory
  • What right an aspiring employee possess that he wants to dictate his terms to make the recruitment process more transparent ?

    Is it not the prerogative of the employer to have the amount of transparency, or the lack thereof, in the recruitment process ?

    If an aspiring employee is unhappy with a particular organisation's recruitment policy, then should he not discard that organisation and look for another organisation whose recruitment process suits him ?

    At best, the aspiring employee can give his suggestions. How can filing a lawsuit against an organisation to make it twist it's recruitment process be called rational or logical? Sure, if there's evidence of corruption/cheating, by all means drag UPSC to court!

    Find out the flaw in my common sense or knowledge! I'm still learning.

    Full of flaws. The organization in question is not a private enterprise, but a public constitutional body of a sovereign, socialist, secular democratic republic. So lack of transparency is out of question.

    PS:- I am not pointing out that UPSC is not transparent enough.
    how can you say that without any solid evidence . I think in india its most tranparent orgainzation, my marks in upsc is exactly same and its not one or two times atleast 12 times ( including all other exam which upsc conducts)


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  • What right an aspiring employee possess that he wants to dictate his terms to make the recruitment process more transparent ?

    Is it not the prerogative of the employer to have the amount of transparency, or the lack thereof, in the recruitment process ?

    If an aspiring employee is unhappy with a particular organisation's recruitment policy, then should he not discard that organisation and look for another organisation whose recruitment process suits him ?

    At best, the aspiring employee can give his suggestions. How can filing a lawsuit against an organisation to make it twist it's recruitment process be called rational or logical? Sure, if there's evidence of corruption/cheating, by all means drag UPSC to court!

    Find out the flaw in my common sense or knowledge! I'm still learning.

    Full of flaws. The organization in question is not a private enterprise, but a public constitutional body of a sovereign, socialist, secular democratic republic. So lack of transparency is out of question.

    PS:- I am not pointing out that UPSC is not transparent enough.
    Similar question I had asked 2 months ago as well.
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  • What right an aspiring employee possess that he wants to dictate his terms to make the recruitment process more transparent ?

    Is it not the prerogative of the employer to have the amount of transparency, or the lack thereof, in the recruitment process ?

    If an aspiring employee is unhappy with a particular organisation's recruitment policy, then should he not discard that organisation and look for another organisation whose recruitment process suits him ?

    At best, the aspiring employee can give his suggestions. How can filing a lawsuit against an organisation to make it twist it's recruitment process be called rational or logical? Sure, if there's evidence of corruption/cheating, by all means drag UPSC to court!

    Find out the flaw in my common sense or knowledge! I'm still learning.

    Full of flaws. The organization in question is not a private enterprise, but a public constitutional body of a sovereign, socialist, secular democratic republic. So lack of transparency is out of question.

    PS:- I am not pointing out that UPSC is not transparent enough.
    Similar question I had asked 2 months ago as well.
    whats your point?
    An Ounce of Action Is Worth a Ton of Theory
  • What right an aspiring employee possess that he wants to dictate his terms to make the recruitment process more transparent ?

    Is it not the prerogative of the employer to have the amount of transparency, or the lack thereof, in the recruitment process ?

    If an aspiring employee is unhappy with a particular organisation's recruitment policy, then should he not discard that organisation and look for another organisation whose recruitment process suits him ?

    At best, the aspiring employee can give his suggestions. How can filing a lawsuit against an organisation to make it twist it's recruitment process be called rational or logical? Sure, if there's evidence of corruption/cheating, by all means drag UPSC to court!

    Find out the flaw in my common sense or knowledge! I'm still learning.

    Bro you are perfect example as why we shd not expect any change in UPSC process. The basic questions here are 2 - Rule of Law ( and One Rule to guide all PSC on basic principles - When PSC can issue marks why not UPSC) and Law of natural justice ( A candidate has every right to see his answer copies - so that he can see where he made a mistake and how he can correct it and secondly was there any clerical mistake?).

    See as it is said in judiciary - Justice shd not only be done but it must seem to be done.

    Same way - for UPSC - Transparency/Accountability shd not only be on paper But shd be in spirit as well.

    Lawsuit is NOT d soln - we know how Govt behaves in such situations.

    Anyway - u r entitled to ur opinion.
  • What right an aspiring employee possess that he wants to dictate his terms to make the recruitment process more transparent ?

    Is it not the prerogative of the employer to have the amount of transparency, or the lack thereof, in the recruitment process ?

    If an aspiring employee is unhappy with a particular organisation's recruitment policy, then should he not discard that organisation and look for another organisation whose recruitment process suits him ?

    At best, the aspiring employee can give his suggestions. How can filing a lawsuit against an organisation to make it twist it's recruitment process be called rational or logical? Sure, if there's evidence of corruption/cheating, by all means drag UPSC to court!

    Find out the flaw in my common sense or knowledge! I'm still learning.

    Full of flaws. The organization in question is not a private enterprise, but a public constitutional body of a sovereign, socialist, secular democratic republic. So lack of transparency is out of question.

    PS:- I am not pointing out that UPSC is not transparent enough.
    Similar question I had asked 2 months ago as well.
    Who is saying this? I can use a better flowery language backed by all the constitutional remedies to say exactly opposite of what this random "Msg" says. One can say whatever they want - its a free society. Same way - people or aspirant have every right to protest - even outisde offices of public authority -becasue these public authority are palced there - bcoz of power given by people - We the People - People are supreme ( as long as they are rational and non violent)
  • What right an aspiring employee possess that he wants to dictate his terms to make the recruitment process more transparent ?

    Is it not the prerogative of the employer to have the amount of transparency, or the lack thereof, in the recruitment process ?

    If an aspiring employee is unhappy with a particular organisation's recruitment policy, then should he not discard that organisation and look for another organisation whose recruitment process suits him ?

    At best, the aspiring employee can give his suggestions. How can filing a lawsuit against an organisation to make it twist it's recruitment process be called rational or logical? Sure, if there's evidence of corruption/cheating, by all means drag UPSC to court!

    Find out the flaw in my common sense or knowledge! I'm still learning.

    Full of flaws. The organization in question is not a private enterprise, but a public constitutional body of a sovereign, socialist, secular democratic republic. So lack of transparency is out of question.

    PS:- I am not pointing out that UPSC is not transparent enough.
    Absolute transparency can never be achieved. Nothing is absolute. Everything is relative.

    Who is to decide "how much transparency"?

    And how? Through Lawsuits?

    Why was the PIL rejected?
  • What right an aspiring employee possess that he wants to dictate his terms to make the recruitment process more transparent ?

    Is it not the prerogative of the employer to have the amount of transparency, or the lack thereof, in the recruitment process ?

    If an aspiring employee is unhappy with a particular organisation's recruitment policy, then should he not discard that organisation and look for another organisation whose recruitment process suits him ?

    At best, the aspiring employee can give his suggestions. How can filing a lawsuit against an organisation to make it twist it's recruitment process be called rational or logical? Sure, if there's evidence of corruption/cheating, by all means drag UPSC to court!

    Find out the flaw in my common sense or knowledge! I'm still learning.

    Full of flaws. The organization in question is not a private enterprise, but a public constitutional body of a sovereign, socialist, secular democratic republic. So lack of transparency is out of question.

    PS:- I am not pointing out that UPSC is not transparent enough.
    Similar question I had asked 2 months ago as well.
    whats your point?
    My point is that I have Confirmation Bias.

    You be happy!
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