What is the difference between Nirvana and Moksha?

Bron Singh

One of those 'wow' threads, this one for me.

Usainbolt

I think I must try to attain nirvana ,right in this life ,right now .

wisdom_tooth

sangham sharnam gachayim

Usainbolt

Buddham sharnam gacchami.
Dhammam sharnam gacchami.
Sangham sharnam gacchami.

Chomuphilosopher

Buddha ==> no self theory...as acc to him only moments exist...what we see is a flux of change from moment to moment...we see this ceaseless flow as unity..nothing is permanent ...so nairmatavada..but there is some supreme soul like Brahma of venadta, but buddha remains silent on speculations..its not denial of soul as such, there can be a supreme soul

Rebirth is explained by will in buddhism..last moment has will and gives rise to next moment..no need of any memory or denial of law of karma here..no need of transmigration of soul here...will khatam to nirvana prapt..will khatam to miseries khatam..obviously cycle of birth - death ends...but prime focus is on freedom from sufferings... Remember 4 arya satyas? We can see causal efficiency of a movement

Mokha ==> similar concept..depends upon the school which is in consideration...but basically hai wahi
..freedom from cycle..but soul nhi karenge transmigrate...sabke apne apne tarike hain usko pane k....

Its not necessary only after death we will attain mokhsa or nirvana...we have to suffer or say in this world till our karmic fruits gets exhausted..be it buddha or Shankar, they lived even after attaining ultimate knowledge and attaining enlightenment

eternalsearch

If you clear in first attempt, it's nirvana...

Moksha for last one....

mannu_madhopur

Thanks @Etat @mannu_madhopur .
Etat what is avidya??

Thanks @Etat @mannu_madhopur .
Etat what is avidya??

there are diffrent definition of avidya in different philosophy
i.e.Adi Shankara says in his Introduction to his commentary on the Brahma Sutras, "Owing to an absence of discrimination, there continues a natural human behaviour in the form of 'I am this' or 'This is mine'; this is avidya. It is a superimposition of the attributes of one thing on another.

In budha philosophy avidya is concern with unawareness of four arya truth....etc.

mannu_madhopur

Can someone explain, that if not soul- what is it, which according to Buddhism participates in rebirth?

What is that quintessential sense of identity that gets reborn again?

बौद्ध धर्म एक तरफ तो स्थायी एवं नित्य आत्मा के अस्तित्व को अस्वीकार करती परन्तु दूसरी तरफ वह पुनर्जन्म को स्वीकार करती है जो की विरोधाभासी प्रतीत होता है इसका उत्तर देते हुए बौद्धों का कहना है की यहाँ पुनर्जन्म का आशय नित्य आत्मा सज एक शरीर छोड़कर न्य शरीर ग्रहण करना नहीं है बल्कि विज्ञानं के अविच्छिन्न प्रवाह की निरंतरता है इनके अनुसार जीवन की अंतिम अवस्था से भविष्य जीवन की प्रथम अवस्था की उत्पत्ति हो जाती है यहाँ मृत्यु का अर्थ है एक विज्ञानं प्रवाह का समाप्त होना और पुनर्जन्म का अर्थ इस विज्ञानं प्रवाह का नए शरीर में निरंतरता कायम रखना है जिस प्रकार एक दीपक से दूसरा दीपक प्रकाशित किया जाता है उसी तरह हमारे विज्ञानं एवं कर्म संस्कार एक जीवन से दुसरे जीवन में पहुंचते हैं

Usainbolt

@Usain_Bolt ..good question.
You are talking about two different road leading to same destination.Now come to the point-

1. Niravana means being tasteless.You are free from any happiness, sorrow, pain etc. it is blissful state.It is a kind of state where you dont have any boundary. you can see, feel and control anything.Buddhism does not believe in soul and thats why it does not believe in Moksha. That is also why Nirvana can be attained as human only not after death because after death you dont have any existence. There might be question in mind that what about those who does not reach to niravana as there is no soul concept in buddism. It is basically memory( energy) who travels body to body untill you get nirvana..Very strange and typical concept of buddhism.

2. Buddsim does not denied moksha. Moksha means free from rebirths of soul.As soul find no existence in budhism thats why they dont talk about moksha. What Hinduism believe is that transmigration of soul. Soul is basically mini chip (energy) where all your karmic and birth information get stored birth by birth.When you reach to such a state where you are eligible for moksha , you dont require to take rebirth anymore and you get immersed into the deep ocean of supreme being.The story of soul is like a drop of water. Initially it is separated from ocean by cloud ,after rain it travels whole the earth in different different areas, different circumstances till it reaches to ocean and get immersed into it. When it get into ocean. it looses its existence as drop of water and become the whole ocean.this is concept of soul as per Hinduism. Really fascinating . Is not it?

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