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Does UPSC really prefer Leftist/socialist "The Hindu/Frontline" type answers ? [concerns]

edited August 2013 in Current Affairs
Does UPSC really expects the types of views presented in HIndu/Frontline or is it the aspirants who have not moved on to the newer resources from pre-91 days? After reading Hindu for about an year it was quite a liberating experience to switch to Indian Express. If UPSC actually expects all the civil servants to have leftist approach, it is a matter of grave concern for India.

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  • edited July 2013
    @anp_prakash
    While i have been reading Hindu since 2-3 months i also find it to be on leftist side.
    Although you also dont want a newspaper constantly acting like a yes man to our govts every decision.It should be a balanced approach.

    Why would UPSC want a leftist bureacracy at its academy ?

    It never favoured or discouraged a newspaper i think .It only wants us to evolve our thinking so that we are able to sense every minute aspect which goes into framing a certain policy or act or law & as a an aspiring civil servant we should be able to see through a policy or so called announcements govt make.

    For eg:- Relating to gas price increase Hindu published many editorials written by experts .It criticised the price increase not by vague assumptions but by solid arguments.

    In a separate article it took views from both the framer & the critic thus leaving it to reader to decide whether an increase is justified or not.

    Sometimes they might be little too leftist but hey the psychological relief in criticising a corrupt govt is something that all of us love to do.
    ;-) ;-)
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  • edited July 2013
    I concur with what @LuV said and like to add more to it.

    1) UPSC never expects us to write the view of the editorials in newspaper rather it wants to know our take on subject matter. One should take a note of arguments and their supporting points from both the sides( for and against )and produce a balanced explanation in exam.

    2) Some of my professors have also gone to an extent saying that one should not read editorials, reading them not only hampers our thought process but also limit our scope of building our own view. It makes sense also because the writers of editorials or Op-Ed perceives issues according to their own understanding and expertise.
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  • IMO the purpose of reading editorials should be to see how many dimensions can be touched on a given topic. This should help you in framing your answers in a better way. Edits should not be the source of building your opinion but your thought process.
  • edited July 2013
    I almost never read the op-eds just to avoid spoon-feeding of analysis. Only time I might is if it promises historical or specialist information.

    I believe that UPSC wants answers that are in line with the constitution - sovereign, socialist, secular, democratic and upholding. the principles of justice, liberty, equality and fraternity.

    It's a good rule of thumb I follow.
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  • UPSC wants good answers. As I have already stated in this forum somewhere it wants ideas and not ideologies.
    One has to write answers with balanced analysis , politically correct arguments and logical conclusions to fetch marks.
  • i have been reading The Hindu since my final year in graduation. It's been 2 years and i find it profoundly leftist. & even Hindu also acknowledges this. they have been quite dubious when they criticiseeach and every policy of U.S. World Bank IMF etc. but surprisingly no criticisms of China, Communists of india, Communists govts. in indian states. but while they have also good analysis of socio economic prgms, polity, science tech, environment . in international relations their articles are too biased towards leftist ideals and doesn't deserve for sincere journalism. Reading editorial and op-eds from different sources including western journo sites are quite valuable in widening one's scope regarding international issues. I think UPSc doesn't gives primacy to expert opinions rather balanced and honest view. Of corse one has to take one side but that should be based on sound reason rather than plain political prejudices that Hindu often does.
  • No matter what you read , how you read , etc ,. Finally you should be able to demonstrate that acumen which could land you in safe zone .. ;)
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  • Does UPSC really expects the types of views presented in HIndu/Frontline or is it the aspirants who have not moved on to the newer resources from pre-91 days? After reading Hindu for about an year it was quite a liberating experience to switch to Indian Express. If UPSC actually expects all the civil servants to have leftist approach, it is a matter of grave concern for India.

    your views awaited...
    What i believe is neither the Hindu nor the IE gives you the right perspective that UPSC demands.It is you who have to analyse any issue from your point of view.All the newspapers and magazines just help us to see any issue from an angle(from the author's POV) ,but we need to think and examine that from all perspectives. Ideas should be original rather than artificial .

    Sometimes i find IE more beneficial than the HIndu.
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  • edited July 2013
    The Hindu whines and complains too much, but it does give good criticism. There are many people who rely on The Hindu like its the gospel, spending hours perusing it everyday. Though UPSC requires criticism as well as solutions, therefore it is best to refer to multiple sources for all your news/op-eds, and form your own balanced, thought-out opinions.

    I have subscribed to rss feeds of op-eds/editorials from various Indian and international news organisations and think-tanks, and allot one day a week to go the hundreds of articles that have piled up and make some notes on interesting and relevant topics. This solves much of the requirement for social issues, economics and IR.
  • @Stardust1901
    Can you list some of your sources for rss feeds ?

    Any article is written with a specific purpose .It may be to crticise a govt or to be in its favour.
    What UPSC wants from its future bureacrats is that they should be able to appreciate a situation from.different angles.
    Hindu might be leftist in its editorials but the onus of framing our opinion on any topic lies witb the reader because Hindu never asks you to preach what it delivers via print media .
    A critical view is also a view & should be seen that way.Everything has its flaws & if someone is pointing to the flaws then so be it ,you read it & fully know the one side of the story & look for +ve views from.some other source.
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  • Hi all,

    I am attaching the screenshot of Siddharth Varadarajan's (Editor, The Hindu | Twitter handle - svaradarajan) response to a query on steep price differential between cost of Hindu across India ( H'Bad - 3Rs, Delhi - 8 Rs) His last response was - "All I can say is that you won't crack the UPSC without subscribing to The Hindu"

    I felt his response was extremely haughty and presumptuous. The Hindu may be important and useful for Civil Services preparation, however, its no Bible. Subscribing to The Hindu may be important but not something without which one won't crack the UPSC. What do you guys opine?

    PS - This is not really relevant to the thread, however, I didn't want to start another thread neither could I find a more appropriate thread.

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  • edited July 2013
    ^this was incredibly arrogant of him.

    I only get ToI and Economic Times at home, and have never read a physical copy of The Hindu. If I don't get selected, it is certainly not going to be because I didn't subscribe to a particular newspaper.

    The Hindu might be well written and the news might be relevant to the demands of UPSC, but the same level of (and even better) sources can be found online or in other reputed newspapers like Indian Express.

    The bottomline is to never rely on only one source for information, always try to get other points of view.
  • edited July 2013
    Well! A little amount of arrogance is essential in business.
    The Hindu is not doing charity - They have a business model - Demand is high in Delhi - Earn more profits there. I am sure they must have done their maths.

    Basic marketing tricks and economics at play!

    Whats wrong in that? Any businessmen would do that. Even politicians do it - Hamari party ko vote do aur desh bachao! Else our country will go to dogs! Lolz!

    Negative publicity is also publicity right?
  • hindu does have a problem of portraying the leftist view. nonetheless it is quite a good newspaper and no matter what Mr XYZ says one can definitely crack the exam without subscribing to hindu.

    iread IE and Business Standard. IE covers IR and econimics section in a much better way than hindu does. for envi and ecology refer Ecotimes. :)
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  • Indeed very haughty of him or he could have been trying to be straightforward in his reply.
    Hindu is not some sort of magic spell or an ancient ritual one needs to perform to succed in CS ,its just that its doing a good coverage of events & news on a daily basis.The day it ceases to do so ,it wouldnt be discussed or read anywhere in this country.
    The fault , dear Brutus, is not in our stars, / But in ourselves, that we are underlings .
  • edited July 2013
    Heh, how exactly does his answer explain the difference in selling prices in Delhi and Hyderabad? Is he suggesting that dollar is costlier in Delhi than Hyderabad? Or the other way round? And how will even that make a difference? Are they importing ink and paper? What am I missing here? :-?
  • ^since a lot of aspirants prepare in Delhi, hence the demand has become inelastic. Even if the price is increased, aspirants will continue to buy the Hindu (otherwise, you won't clear UPSC logic).
    In S. India they have regular readers who might shift to other newspapers if the price increases.
    This dollar price thing is bullshit bcs if true than should lead to an increase in the general price level and not city specific!
  • Well one year back in Tamilnadu I was getting Hindu+Indian Express and ET for 150 a month @ Hostel yes for three together, Now paying 240 for one, it's like we created a monopoly which is now biting us.

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  • ha! hypocritical TH. left views but no qualms about exploiting monopoly itself!
    anyway regarding UPSC i doubt they prefer left views they must be preferring truth and considering ultra-biased ("paid")newspapers like ToI and HT, The Hindu seems to be more closer to truth even if left-biased.
    I wish IE give strong competion to it in near future.
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  • edited July 2013
    Indian Express is bringing out special fortnightly issues for Civil Services Aspirants. It is a 4 page collection of important articles published in the previous fortnight in IE, it covers Polity, Economics, IR, & S&T.

    http://epaper.indianexpress.com/138723/Indian-Express/22-July-2013#page/21/3

    People who read The Hindu regularly can benefit by adding IE fortnightly issue in their schedule to bring variety in their understanding.

    I read IE (Completely minus politics) and Selected Editorials/Opinions/Lead from The Hindu and Business Line along with numerous RSS feeds.
  • edited July 2013
    Indian Express is bringing out special fortnightly issues for Civil Services Aspirants. It is a 4 page collection of important articles published in the previous fortnight in IE, it covers Polity, Economics, IR, & S&T.

    http://epaper.indianexpress.com/138723/Indian-Express/22-July-2013#page/21/3

    People who read The Hindu regularly can benefit by adding IE fortnightly issue in their schedule to bring variety in their understanding.

    I read IE (Completely minus politics) and Selected Editorials/Opinions/Lead from The Hindu and Business Line along with numerous RSS feeds.
    @partho Thanks for bringing this to our notice. I had no idea about such an edition. This would save so much time!
  • @partho has IE started this edition from 22 july ..or earlier?? plz inform..
  • edited July 2013
    @partho has IE started this edition from 22 july ..or earlier?? plz inform..
    It says VOL IV - So there must be 3 more issues. They might have published it in print edition as I did not come across it in online editions.

    Hopefully from now, this section might become a regular feature of online editions of IE.

  • @Stardust1901 -wat rss feeds/oped have you registered ??
  • While Hindu's op-ed's are more often than not written by researchers/academicians/intellectuals who are mostly working for non-partisan research organizations, I don't see why we have to decide whether they are pro or anti pro government. As far as a researcher is concerned, any government policy/issue etc has to benefit its citizens in the best possible, so there would be praise or flak as and where it is required.

    Which brings me to my question.

    What are some of the institutes/organizations websites that must be regularly visited?
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  • edited July 2013
    All hindu editorials are not exactly leftist, there are many by leading academicians, activists, businessmen and even, bureaucrats. I always look at the signature and it tells you how to take that article. The thing about Hindu is that it covers most of the news items which makes it comprehensive, so at least answering questions becomes easy. Ideally, one should read other articles to balance his/her view.
    I don't like to reply to idiots and if you think I am referring to you, you are probably correct.

  • It says VOL IV - So there must be 3 more issues. They might have published it in print edition as I did not come across it in online editions.
    The 22nd July print edition did not contain this fortnightly issue. :(

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  • @partho...how u get that fortnightly issues ...plz provide some idea...
  • edited July 2013
    @partho...how u get that fortnightly issues ...plz provide some idea...
    You need to pay attention to what you read. @khajoor meant that he didn't get the fortnightly edition with the regular print edition of 22nd July.
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