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  • FuChi said:

    Karne wale kar gaye, marne wale mar gaye. Wo academy me maze le rahe hain n we r beating a dead horse.
    Agar har gadhe ghore ko 300+ aajate hain literature me to lelo. Jitni mehnat yahan analysis me kar rahe ho utni mehnat literature me kar lo.
    Mashaallah, tel nikal jayega liver ka bata rahe hain. Point is they are competent in their areas n are rocking. Aap ki competence nahi hai apne subject me to ro ro ke excuse bana rahe ho.
    Le lo literature aur phor do.
    Gandh machaye hue hain.

    yeh kya argument hua yaar? UPSC agar paad raha hai toh sungho? Arre discussion hai isi baat ka ki ideally kya sahi hai, competence ki baat toh rehne do jin logon ke pub ad, geo, psycho, socio mein shuru se acche number aaya karte the woh bechare 3rd-4th attempt mein pil jaate, kyun? unki competence kam ho gayee? seedha sa funda hai UPSC ke standards uniform nahin hain na toh inter subjects na hi across time. Dusri baat literature mein aisi kya competence dekh li ki us bande ko 350-360 de diye? yahan log 3-3, 4-4 saal ghisa ke duniya bhar ki kitabe pad kar , answer writing practice karke nhn la paate. mein kitne hi iitians ko janta hun jinhone physics, maths chor ke paale literature se qualify kiya woh bhi 6-7 mahine padh ke..matlab iit-jee qualify karke, 4 saal iit mein pad ke maths, physics mein competence nhn aaya par 6-7 mahine paali litt pad ke aa gaya.

    optionals ghor anayaya hai. agar level playing field karni hai to isse hatna chhaiye. simple.
    agar 6-7 mahine mein literature mein logo ne acche marks le aaye toh aap dekh hi kyu rahe the?? aap bhi leke kar lete. ye pattern upsc ne diya hain.. optional choose aapko karna hain. aap bhi lo jisme marks aa rahe hain. can u guarantee ki agli baar bhi lit mein 350 aayenge?? risk har jagah hain sir..


    valid point hai tumhr. In fact maine seriously socha bhi paali lene ka, jab mere juniors paali lekar ias ban gaye but un logon ne bataya ki syllabus ka kuch part hai jo almost word by word by heart hona chhaiye, jo ki mere bas ki baat nhn thi, secondly, pub ad type optional acche chal rahe the uss zamane mein toh woh le liya(matlab maine wahi kiya jo aap suggest kar rahe hain)..result kya hua 1 saal acche number aaye(kam effort dekar) fir butchering chalu ho gayi, ab aap batayiye kya yeh system sahi hai kya? yeh toh russian roulette se bhi badtar hai. Aur optional hat jaye toh burai kya hai? In fact, yeh argument flawed ki jo optional accha chal raha hai woh sab lelo, arre guarantee kya hai ki agle aane saalon mein accha rahega? koi 5 baar marathi litt se de raha hai nhn number aaya uska lekin jab aaya toh chappar faad kar aaya matlab kismat ke bharose baoithe raho.
  • FuChi said:

    Karne wale kar gaye, marne wale mar gaye. Wo academy me maze le rahe hain n we r beating a dead horse.
    Agar har gadhe ghore ko 300+ aajate hain literature me to lelo. Jitni mehnat yahan analysis me kar rahe ho utni mehnat literature me kar lo.
    Mashaallah, tel nikal jayega liver ka bata rahe hain. Point is they are competent in their areas n are rocking. Aap ki competence nahi hai apne subject me to ro ro ke excuse bana rahe ho.
    Le lo literature aur phor do.
    Gandh machaye hue hain.

    yeh kya argument hua yaar? UPSC agar paad raha hai toh sungho? Arre discussion hai isi baat ka ki ideally kya sahi hai, competence ki baat toh rehne do jin logon ke pub ad, geo, psycho, socio mein shuru se acche number aaya karte the woh bechare 3rd-4th attempt mein pil jaate, kyun? unki competence kam ho gayee? seedha sa funda hai UPSC ke standards uniform nahin hain na toh inter subjects na hi across time. Dusri baat literature mein aisi kya competence dekh li ki us bande ko 350-360 de diye? yahan log 3-3, 4-4 saal ghisa ke duniya bhar ki kitabe pad kar , answer writing practice karke nhn la paate. mein kitne hi iitians ko janta hun jinhone physics, maths chor ke paale literature se qualify kiya woh bhi 6-7 mahine padh ke..matlab iit-jee qualify karke, 4 saal iit mein pad ke maths, physics mein competence nhn aaya par 6-7 mahine paali litt pad ke aa gaya.

    optionals ghor anayaya hai. agar level playing field karni hai to isse hatna chhaiye. simple.
    agar 6-7 mahine mein literature mein logo ne acche marks le aaye toh aap dekh hi kyu rahe the?? aap bhi leke kar lete. ye pattern upsc ne diya hain.. optional choose aapko karna hain. aap bhi lo jisme marks aa rahe hain. can u guarantee ki agli baar bhi lit mein 350 aayenge?? risk har jagah hain sir..


    valid point hai tumhr. In fact maine seriously socha bhi paali lene ka, jab mere juniors paali lekar ias ban gaye but un logon ne bataya ki syllabus ka kuch part hai jo almost word by word by heart hona chhaiye, jo ki mere bas ki baat nhn thi, secondly, pub ad type optional acche chal rahe the uss zamane mein toh woh le liya(matlab maine wahi kiya jo aap suggest kar rahe hain)..result kya hua 1 saal acche number aaye(kam effort dekar) fir butchering chalu ho gayi, ab aap batayiye kya yeh system sahi hai kya? yeh toh russian roulette se bhi badtar hai. Aur optional hat jaye toh burai kya hai? In fact, yeh argument flawed ki jo optional accha chal raha hai woh sab lelo, arre guarantee kya hai ki agle aane saalon mein accha rahega? koi 5 baar marathi litt se de raha hai nhn number aaya uska lekin jab aaya toh chappar faad kar aaya matlab kismat ke bharose baoithe raho.
    sir main ye nahi bol raha ki optional sahi hain. mere hisaab se toh optional hona hi nahi chahiye. maine bas abhi k time ka bola ki har optional mein risk hain. har optional mein. marathi mein agar kisike 350 aa gaye iska matlab ye nahi ki isbaar bhi us optional mein acche marks honge. kisine prelims nikala.. lit optional mein 350 laaya. uske calibre pe log yaha bol rahe the jinme se bahuato ne 4 baar prelims deke ek baar bhi nahi nikala .
    It is Job Hi Karwalo .. not Jo Bhi Karwalo.... mind it
  • FuChi said:

    Karne wale kar gaye, marne wale mar gaye. Wo academy me maze le rahe hain n we r beating a dead horse.
    Agar har gadhe ghore ko 300+ aajate hain literature me to lelo. Jitni mehnat yahan analysis me kar rahe ho utni mehnat literature me kar lo.
    Mashaallah, tel nikal jayega liver ka bata rahe hain. Point is they are competent in their areas n are rocking. Aap ki competence nahi hai apne subject me to ro ro ke excuse bana rahe ho.
    Le lo literature aur phor do.
    Gandh machaye hue hain.

    yeh kya argument hua yaar? UPSC agar paad raha hai toh sungho? Arre discussion hai isi baat ka ki ideally kya sahi hai, competence ki baat toh rehne do jin logon ke pub ad, geo, psycho, socio mein shuru se acche number aaya karte the woh bechare 3rd-4th attempt mein pil jaate, kyun? unki competence kam ho gayee? seedha sa funda hai UPSC ke standards uniform nahin hain na toh inter subjects na hi across time. Dusri baat literature mein aisi kya competence dekh li ki us bande ko 350-360 de diye? yahan log 3-3, 4-4 saal ghisa ke duniya bhar ki kitabe pad kar , answer writing practice karke nhn la paate. mein kitne hi iitians ko janta hun jinhone physics, maths chor ke paale literature se qualify kiya woh bhi 6-7 mahine padh ke..matlab iit-jee qualify karke, 4 saal iit mein pad ke maths, physics mein competence nhn aaya par 6-7 mahine paali litt pad ke aa gaya.

    optionals ghor anayaya hai. agar level playing field karni hai to isse hatna chhaiye. simple.
    agar 6-7 mahine mein literature mein logo ne acche marks le aaye toh aap dekh hi kyu rahe the?? aap bhi leke kar lete. ye pattern upsc ne diya hain.. optional choose aapko karna hain. aap bhi lo jisme marks aa rahe hain. can u guarantee ki agli baar bhi lit mein 350 aayenge?? risk har jagah hain sir..


    valid point hai tumhr. In fact maine seriously socha bhi paali lene ka, jab mere juniors paali lekar ias ban gaye but un logon ne bataya ki syllabus ka kuch part hai jo almost word by word by heart hona chhaiye, jo ki mere bas ki baat nhn thi, secondly, pub ad type optional acche chal rahe the uss zamane mein toh woh le liya(matlab maine wahi kiya jo aap suggest kar rahe hain)..result kya hua 1 saal acche number aaye(kam effort dekar) fir butchering chalu ho gayi, ab aap batayiye kya yeh system sahi hai kya? yeh toh russian roulette se bhi badtar hai. Aur optional hat jaye toh burai kya hai? In fact, yeh argument flawed ki jo optional accha chal raha hai woh sab lelo, arre guarantee kya hai ki agle aane saalon mein accha rahega? koi 5 baar marathi litt se de raha hai nhn number aaya uska lekin jab aaya toh chappar faad kar aaya matlab kismat ke bharose baoithe raho.
    sir main ye nahi bol raha ki optional sahi hain. mere hisaab se toh optional hona hi nahi chahiye. maine bas abhi k time ka bola ki har optional mein risk hain. har optional mein. marathi mein agar kisike 350 aa gaye iska matlab ye nahi ki isbaar bhi us optional mein acche marks honge. kisine prelims nikala.. lit optional mein 350 laaya. uske calibre pe log yaha bol rahe the jinme se bahuato ne 4 baar prelims deke ek baar bhi nahi nikala .

    exactly saare optionals mein "risk" hai. I think hamara POV difference literature v/s all optionals ko lekar hai. nhn bhai mein yeh nhn keh raha ki sirf literature ko "benefit" hua hai, yeh benefit kabhi pub ad ko, kabhi geog ko, kabhi kisi literature optional etc etc ko mila hai. In fact late 1990s mein ek saal mein top 20 ranks mein se 18 IITs se thi aur in sab ladkon ne maths/physics/engg se nikala tha, jiske baad kaafi ho hallla hua aur UPSC ne changes kiye aur shayad scaling ussi ke baad aayi. Ab time aa gaya hai ki iss optional ko hi khatam kar diya jaaye.
  • edited January 2016

    FuChi said:

    Karne wale kar gaye, marne wale mar gaye. Wo academy me maze le rahe hain n we r beating a dead horse.
    Agar har gadhe ghore ko 300+ aajate hain literature me to lelo. Jitni mehnat yahan analysis me kar rahe ho utni mehnat literature me kar lo.
    Mashaallah, tel nikal jayega liver ka bata rahe hain. Point is they are competent in their areas n are rocking. Aap ki competence nahi hai apne subject me to ro ro ke excuse bana rahe ho.
    Le lo literature aur phor do.
    Gandh machaye hue hain.

    yeh kya argument hua yaar? UPSC agar paad raha hai toh sungho? Arre discussion hai isi baat ka ki ideally kya sahi hai, competence ki baat toh rehne do jin logon ke pub ad, geo, psycho, socio mein shuru se acche number aaya karte the woh bechare 3rd-4th attempt mein pil jaate, kyun? unki competence kam ho gayee? seedha sa funda hai UPSC ke standards uniform nahin hain na toh inter subjects na hi across time. Dusri baat literature mein aisi kya competence dekh li ki us bande ko 350-360 de diye? yahan log 3-3, 4-4 saal ghisa ke duniya bhar ki kitabe pad kar , answer writing practice karke nhn la paate. mein kitne hi iitians ko janta hun jinhone physics, maths chor ke paale literature se qualify kiya woh bhi 6-7 mahine padh ke..matlab iit-jee qualify karke, 4 saal iit mein pad ke maths, physics mein competence nhn aaya par 6-7 mahine paali litt pad ke aa gaya.

    optionals ghor anayaya hai. agar level playing field karni hai to isse hatna chhaiye. simple.
    agar 6-7 mahine mein literature mein logo ne acche marks le aaye toh aap dekh hi kyu rahe the?? aap bhi leke kar lete. ye pattern upsc ne diya hain.. optional choose aapko karna hain. aap bhi lo jisme marks aa rahe hain. can u guarantee ki agli baar bhi lit mein 350 aayenge?? risk har jagah hain sir..


    valid point hai tumhr. In fact maine seriously socha bhi paali lene ka, jab mere juniors paali lekar ias ban gaye but un logon ne bataya ki syllabus ka kuch part hai jo almost word by word by heart hona chhaiye, jo ki mere bas ki baat nhn thi, secondly, pub ad type optional acche chal rahe the uss zamane mein toh woh le liya(matlab maine wahi kiya jo aap suggest kar rahe hain)..result kya hua 1 saal acche number aaye(kam effort dekar) fir butchering chalu ho gayi, ab aap batayiye kya yeh system sahi hai kya? yeh toh russian roulette se bhi badtar hai. Aur optional hat jaye toh burai kya hai? In fact, yeh argument flawed ki jo optional accha chal raha hai woh sab lelo, arre guarantee kya hai ki agle aane saalon mein accha rahega? koi 5 baar marathi litt se de raha hai nhn number aaya uska lekin jab aaya toh chappar faad kar aaya matlab kismat ke bharose baoithe raho.
    sir main ye nahi bol raha ki optional sahi hain. mere hisaab se toh optional hona hi nahi chahiye. maine bas abhi k time ka bola ki har optional mein risk hain. har optional mein. marathi mein agar kisike 350 aa gaye iska matlab ye nahi ki isbaar bhi us optional mein acche marks honge. kisine prelims nikala.. lit optional mein 350 laaya. uske calibre pe log yaha bol rahe the jinme se bahuato ne 4 baar prelims deke ek baar bhi nahi nikala .

    exactly saare optionals mein "risk" hai. I think hamara POV difference literature v/s all optionals ko lekar hai. nhn bhai mein yeh nhn keh raha ki sirf literature ko "benefit" hua hai, yeh benefit kabhi pub ad ko, kabhi geog ko, kabhi kisi literature optional etc etc ko mila hai. In fact late 1990s mein ek saal mein top 20 ranks mein se 18 IITs se thi aur in sab ladkon ne maths/physics/engg se nikala tha, jiske baad kaafi ho hallla hua aur UPSC ne changes kiye aur shayad scaling ussi ke baad aayi. Ab time aa gaya hai ki iss optional ko hi khatam kar diya jaaye.
    Bhai tu optional ko khatam karke to bata yahan chutiye nahi betein DU or JNU mein jo itne saale se optional pad rahe hai , tum sayad unme se ho jinho kabhi optional pad hi nahi is liye yahan agaye bakwas jadne apni
  • FuChi said:

    Karne wale kar gaye, marne wale mar gaye. Wo academy me maze le rahe hain n we r beating a dead horse.
    Agar har gadhe ghore ko 300+ aajate hain literature me to lelo. Jitni mehnat yahan analysis me kar rahe ho utni mehnat literature me kar lo.
    Mashaallah, tel nikal jayega liver ka bata rahe hain. Point is they are competent in their areas n are rocking. Aap ki competence nahi hai apne subject me to ro ro ke excuse bana rahe ho.
    Le lo literature aur phor do.
    Gandh machaye hue hain.

    yeh kya argument hua yaar? UPSC agar paad raha hai toh sungho? Arre discussion hai isi baat ka ki ideally kya sahi hai, competence ki baat toh rehne do jin logon ke pub ad, geo, psycho, socio mein shuru se acche number aaya karte the woh bechare 3rd-4th attempt mein pil jaate, kyun? unki competence kam ho gayee? seedha sa funda hai UPSC ke standards uniform nahin hain na toh inter subjects na hi across time. Dusri baat literature mein aisi kya competence dekh li ki us bande ko 350-360 de diye? yahan log 3-3, 4-4 saal ghisa ke duniya bhar ki kitabe pad kar , answer writing practice karke nhn la paate. mein kitne hi iitians ko janta hun jinhone physics, maths chor ke paale literature se qualify kiya woh bhi 6-7 mahine padh ke..matlab iit-jee qualify karke, 4 saal iit mein pad ke maths, physics mein competence nhn aaya par 6-7 mahine paali litt pad ke aa gaya.

    optionals ghor anayaya hai. agar level playing field karni hai to isse hatna chhaiye. simple.
    agar 6-7 mahine mein literature mein logo ne acche marks le aaye toh aap dekh hi kyu rahe the?? aap bhi leke kar lete. ye pattern upsc ne diya hain.. optional choose aapko karna hain. aap bhi lo jisme marks aa rahe hain. can u guarantee ki agli baar bhi lit mein 350 aayenge?? risk har jagah hain sir..


    valid point hai tumhr. In fact maine seriously socha bhi paali lene ka, jab mere juniors paali lekar ias ban gaye but un logon ne bataya ki syllabus ka kuch part hai jo almost word by word by heart hona chhaiye, jo ki mere bas ki baat nhn thi, secondly, pub ad type optional acche chal rahe the uss zamane mein toh woh le liya(matlab maine wahi kiya jo aap suggest kar rahe hain)..result kya hua 1 saal acche number aaye(kam effort dekar) fir butchering chalu ho gayi, ab aap batayiye kya yeh system sahi hai kya? yeh toh russian roulette se bhi badtar hai. Aur optional hat jaye toh burai kya hai? In fact, yeh argument flawed ki jo optional accha chal raha hai woh sab lelo, arre guarantee kya hai ki agle aane saalon mein accha rahega? koi 5 baar marathi litt se de raha hai nhn number aaya uska lekin jab aaya toh chappar faad kar aaya matlab kismat ke bharose baoithe raho.
    sir main ye nahi bol raha ki optional sahi hain. mere hisaab se toh optional hona hi nahi chahiye. maine bas abhi k time ka bola ki har optional mein risk hain. har optional mein. marathi mein agar kisike 350 aa gaye iska matlab ye nahi ki isbaar bhi us optional mein acche marks honge. kisine prelims nikala.. lit optional mein 350 laaya. uske calibre pe log yaha bol rahe the jinme se bahuato ne 4 baar prelims deke ek baar bhi nahi nikala .

    exactly saare optionals mein "risk" hai. I think hamara POV difference literature v/s all optionals ko lekar hai. nhn bhai mein yeh nhn keh raha ki sirf literature ko "benefit" hua hai, yeh benefit kabhi pub ad ko, kabhi geog ko, kabhi kisi literature optional etc etc ko mila hai. In fact late 1990s mein ek saal mein top 20 ranks mein se 18 IITs se thi aur in sab ladkon ne maths/physics/engg se nikala tha, jiske baad kaafi ho hallla hua aur UPSC ne changes kiye aur shayad scaling ussi ke baad aayi. Ab time aa gaya hai ki iss optional ko hi khatam kar diya jaaye.
    Bhai tu optional ko khatam karke to bata yahan chutiye nahi betein DU or JNU mein jo itne saale se optional pad rahe hai , tum sayad unme se ho jinho kabhi optional pad hi nahi is liye yahan agaye bakwas jadne apni
    yaar tum itne gusse mein baat karoge toh koi discussion na ho payega. maine apne upsc ke career mein 3 optionals acche se padhe hain aur mains likha hai isliye itna bol pa raha hun. 2 baar interview bhi diya hai.
  • Romoval of op is must for real level playing field ... Have very strongly pitched for it in suggestion to UPSC... Sooner it implemented, better it is ....
  • FuChi said:

    Karne wale kar gaye, marne wale mar gaye. Wo academy me maze le rahe hain n we r beating a dead horse.
    Agar har gadhe ghore ko 300+ aajate hain literature me to lelo. Jitni mehnat yahan analysis me kar rahe ho utni mehnat literature me kar lo.
    Mashaallah, tel nikal jayega liver ka bata rahe hain. Point is they are competent in their areas n are rocking. Aap ki competence nahi hai apne subject me to ro ro ke excuse bana rahe ho.
    Le lo literature aur phor do.
    Gandh machaye hue hain.

    yeh kya argument hua yaar? UPSC agar paad raha hai toh sungho? Arre discussion hai isi baat ka ki ideally kya sahi hai, competence ki baat toh rehne do jin logon ke pub ad, geo, psycho, socio mein shuru se acche number aaya karte the woh bechare 3rd-4th attempt mein pil jaate, kyun? unki competence kam ho gayee? seedha sa funda hai UPSC ke standards uniform nahin hain na toh inter subjects na hi across time. Dusri baat literature mein aisi kya competence dekh li ki us bande ko 350-360 de diye? yahan log 3-3, 4-4 saal ghisa ke duniya bhar ki kitabe pad kar , answer writing practice karke nhn la paate. mein kitne hi iitians ko janta hun jinhone physics, maths chor ke paale literature se qualify kiya woh bhi 6-7 mahine padh ke..matlab iit-jee qualify karke, 4 saal iit mein pad ke maths, physics mein competence nhn aaya par 6-7 mahine paali litt pad ke aa gaya.

    optionals ghor anayaya hai. agar level playing field karni hai to isse hatna chhaiye. simple.
    agar 6-7 mahine mein literature mein logo ne acche marks le aaye toh aap dekh hi kyu rahe the?? aap bhi leke kar lete. ye pattern upsc ne diya hain.. optional choose aapko karna hain. aap bhi lo jisme marks aa rahe hain. can u guarantee ki agli baar bhi lit mein 350 aayenge?? risk har jagah hain sir..


    valid point hai tumhr. In fact maine seriously socha bhi paali lene ka, jab mere juniors paali lekar ias ban gaye but un logon ne bataya ki syllabus ka kuch part hai jo almost word by word by heart hona chhaiye, jo ki mere bas ki baat nhn thi, secondly, pub ad type optional acche chal rahe the uss zamane mein toh woh le liya(matlab maine wahi kiya jo aap suggest kar rahe hain)..result kya hua 1 saal acche number aaye(kam effort dekar) fir butchering chalu ho gayi, ab aap batayiye kya yeh system sahi hai kya? yeh toh russian roulette se bhi badtar hai. Aur optional hat jaye toh burai kya hai? In fact, yeh argument flawed ki jo optional accha chal raha hai woh sab lelo, arre guarantee kya hai ki agle aane saalon mein accha rahega? koi 5 baar marathi litt se de raha hai nhn number aaya uska lekin jab aaya toh chappar faad kar aaya matlab kismat ke bharose baoithe raho.
    sir main ye nahi bol raha ki optional sahi hain. mere hisaab se toh optional hona hi nahi chahiye. maine bas abhi k time ka bola ki har optional mein risk hain. har optional mein. marathi mein agar kisike 350 aa gaye iska matlab ye nahi ki isbaar bhi us optional mein acche marks honge. kisine prelims nikala.. lit optional mein 350 laaya. uske calibre pe log yaha bol rahe the jinme se bahuato ne 4 baar prelims deke ek baar bhi nahi nikala .

    exactly saare optionals mein "risk" hai. I think hamara POV difference literature v/s all optionals ko lekar hai. nhn bhai mein yeh nhn keh raha ki sirf literature ko "benefit" hua hai, yeh benefit kabhi pub ad ko, kabhi geog ko, kabhi kisi literature optional etc etc ko mila hai. In fact late 1990s mein ek saal mein top 20 ranks mein se 18 IITs se thi aur in sab ladkon ne maths/physics/engg se nikala tha, jiske baad kaafi ho hallla hua aur UPSC ne changes kiye aur shayad scaling ussi ke baad aayi. Ab time aa gaya hai ki iss optional ko hi khatam kar diya jaaye.
    Bhai tu optional ko khatam karke to bata yahan chutiye nahi betein DU or JNU mein jo itne saale se optional pad rahe hai , tum sayad unme se ho jinho kabhi optional pad hi nahi is liye yahan agaye bakwas jadne apni
    yaar tum itne gusse mein baat karoge toh koi discussion na ho payega. maine apne upsc ke career mein 3 optionals acche se padhe hain aur mains likha hai isliye itna bol pa raha hun. 2 baar interview bhi diya hai.
    bhai 3 different optional padna hi murkhata hai agar ek optional hi 3 baar padte to yahan dikhayi nahi dete
  • FuChi said:

    Karne wale kar gaye, marne wale mar gaye. Wo academy me maze le rahe hain n we r beating a dead horse.
    Agar har gadhe ghore ko 300+ aajate hain literature me to lelo. Jitni mehnat yahan analysis me kar rahe ho utni mehnat literature me kar lo.
    Mashaallah, tel nikal jayega liver ka bata rahe hain. Point is they are competent in their areas n are rocking. Aap ki competence nahi hai apne subject me to ro ro ke excuse bana rahe ho.
    Le lo literature aur phor do.
    Gandh machaye hue hain.

    yeh kya argument hua yaar? UPSC agar paad raha hai toh sungho? Arre discussion hai isi baat ka ki ideally kya sahi hai, competence ki baat toh rehne do jin logon ke pub ad, geo, psycho, socio mein shuru se acche number aaya karte the woh bechare 3rd-4th attempt mein pil jaate, kyun? unki competence kam ho gayee? seedha sa funda hai UPSC ke standards uniform nahin hain na toh inter subjects na hi across time. Dusri baat literature mein aisi kya competence dekh li ki us bande ko 350-360 de diye? yahan log 3-3, 4-4 saal ghisa ke duniya bhar ki kitabe pad kar , answer writing practice karke nhn la paate. mein kitne hi iitians ko janta hun jinhone physics, maths chor ke paale literature se qualify kiya woh bhi 6-7 mahine padh ke..matlab iit-jee qualify karke, 4 saal iit mein pad ke maths, physics mein competence nhn aaya par 6-7 mahine paali litt pad ke aa gaya.

    optionals ghor anayaya hai. agar level playing field karni hai to isse hatna chhaiye. simple.
    agar 6-7 mahine mein literature mein logo ne acche marks le aaye toh aap dekh hi kyu rahe the?? aap bhi leke kar lete. ye pattern upsc ne diya hain.. optional choose aapko karna hain. aap bhi lo jisme marks aa rahe hain. can u guarantee ki agli baar bhi lit mein 350 aayenge?? risk har jagah hain sir..


    valid point hai tumhr. In fact maine seriously socha bhi paali lene ka, jab mere juniors paali lekar ias ban gaye but un logon ne bataya ki syllabus ka kuch part hai jo almost word by word by heart hona chhaiye, jo ki mere bas ki baat nhn thi, secondly, pub ad type optional acche chal rahe the uss zamane mein toh woh le liya(matlab maine wahi kiya jo aap suggest kar rahe hain)..result kya hua 1 saal acche number aaye(kam effort dekar) fir butchering chalu ho gayi, ab aap batayiye kya yeh system sahi hai kya? yeh toh russian roulette se bhi badtar hai. Aur optional hat jaye toh burai kya hai? In fact, yeh argument flawed ki jo optional accha chal raha hai woh sab lelo, arre guarantee kya hai ki agle aane saalon mein accha rahega? koi 5 baar marathi litt se de raha hai nhn number aaya uska lekin jab aaya toh chappar faad kar aaya matlab kismat ke bharose baoithe raho.
    sir main ye nahi bol raha ki optional sahi hain. mere hisaab se toh optional hona hi nahi chahiye. maine bas abhi k time ka bola ki har optional mein risk hain. har optional mein. marathi mein agar kisike 350 aa gaye iska matlab ye nahi ki isbaar bhi us optional mein acche marks honge. kisine prelims nikala.. lit optional mein 350 laaya. uske calibre pe log yaha bol rahe the jinme se bahuato ne 4 baar prelims deke ek baar bhi nahi nikala .

    exactly saare optionals mein "risk" hai. I think hamara POV difference literature v/s all optionals ko lekar hai. nhn bhai mein yeh nhn keh raha ki sirf literature ko "benefit" hua hai, yeh benefit kabhi pub ad ko, kabhi geog ko, kabhi kisi literature optional etc etc ko mila hai. In fact late 1990s mein ek saal mein top 20 ranks mein se 18 IITs se thi aur in sab ladkon ne maths/physics/engg se nikala tha, jiske baad kaafi ho hallla hua aur UPSC ne changes kiye aur shayad scaling ussi ke baad aayi. Ab time aa gaya hai ki iss optional ko hi khatam kar diya jaaye.
    Bhai tu optional ko khatam karke to bata yahan chutiye nahi betein DU or JNU mein jo itne saale se optional pad rahe hai , tum sayad unme se ho jinho kabhi optional pad hi nahi is liye yahan agaye bakwas jadne apni
    yaar tum itne gusse mein baat karoge toh koi discussion na ho payega. maine apne upsc ke career mein 3 optionals acche se padhe hain aur mains likha hai isliye itna bol pa raha hun. 2 baar interview bhi diya hai.
    bhai 3 different optional padna hi murkhata hai agar ek optional hi 3 baar padte to yahan dikhayi nahi dete
    hahaha...abe yaar tum bahut massom ho..hum 2 optionals waale zamane ke hain. aur dekho tumne baat badal di, chalo koi na chill maro. Good night.
  • rks22 said:

    Romoval of op is must for real level playing field ... Have very strongly pitched for it in suggestion to UPSC... Sooner it implemented, better it is ....

    First of all optional removal will not create a level playing field because removal of optional will definetely increase 2 more papers because upsc has to take 7 papers and second if suppose optional is removed that what kind of 2 ne papers added and this will totally change the pattern of exam and there will be demand for more number of attempts which will create another problem for govt and third most of students take admission in college like DU and JNU plus dont forget IGNOU to prepare for optional and if this is removed than all of them will start putting pressure on govt
  • If 6th attemt fetched 350 marks in optional then what happened in gs as it is around 260? I am not argueing against any individual but for the sake of example just consider 422.
    Bhai, would you Guarantee your selction again after cracking upsc once. You may, but those chances are quite remote, indeed. Vaise, its all about marks too. We have enough examples roaming around here who cracked upsc once but dosnt getting rank of theit choice. Do all they are Incompetent ?? No. Its all about 0.001 uncertainty that belogs to this so called UPSC.
    As per some of the arguments it is out of competency over a period of time. Ok. Then with same logic gs do not check the competency properly. Hence there is strong case for removal of all gs papers.
    My lord B)

  • If 6th attemt fetched 350 marks in optional then what happened in gs as it is around 260? I am not argueing against any individual but for the sake of example just consider 422.
    As per some of the arguments it is out of competency over a period of time. Ok. Then with same logic gs do not check the competency properly. Hence there is strong case for removal of all gs papers.
    My lord B)

    Bhai, would you Guarantee your selction again after cracking upsc once. You may, but those chances are quite remote, indeed. Vaise, its all about marks too. We have enough examples roaming around here who cracked upsc once but dosnt getting rank of theit choice. Do all they are Incompetent ?? No. Its all about 0.001 uncertainty that belogs to this so called UPSC.
  • edited January 2016

    rks22 said:

    Romoval of op is must for real level playing field ... Have very strongly pitched for it in suggestion to UPSC... Sooner it implemented, better it is ....

    First of all optional removal will not create a level playing field because removal of optional will definetely increase 2 more papers because upsc has to take 7 papers and second if suppose optional is removed that what kind of 2 ne papers added and this will totally change the pattern of exam and there will be demand for more number of attempts which will create another problem for govt and third most of students take admission in college like DU and JNU plus dont forget IGNOU to prepare for optional and if this is removed than all of them will start putting pressure on govt
    Going by your arguments soon you will end up suggesting: UPSC must make literature paper compulsory as op for level playing field ...
  • Donald11 said:

    If 6th attemt fetched 350 marks in optional then what happened in gs as it is around 260? I am not argueing against any individual but for the sake of example just consider 422.
    As per some of the arguments it is out of competency over a period of time. Ok. Then with same logic gs do not check the competency properly. Hence there is strong case for removal of all gs papers.
    My lord B)

    Bhai, would you Guarantee your selction again after cracking upsc once. You may, but those chances are quite remote, indeed. Vaise, its all about marks too. We have enough examples roaming around here who cracked upsc once but dosnt getting rank of theit choice. Do all they are Incompetent ?? No. Its all about 0.001 uncertainty that belogs to this so called UPSC.
    I think you missed the reading between the line. And yes you are absolutely right sir when you say none can guarantee reselection. I am even going further and saying that none canguarantee his her selection first time fortget about reselection.
    And that is why we call it 00.001 percent uncertainty, it is infact a game of luck rather than anything else.However I dont wish to discredit hardwork put by all those who get selected. It I just about out of all hardworking people those with litle lucluck 0.001 if you say so.
  • edited January 2016

    FuChi said:

    Karne wale kar gaye, marne wale mar gaye. Wo academy me maze le rahe hain n we r beating a dead horse.
    Agar har gadhe ghore ko 300+ aajate hain literature me to lelo. Jitni mehnat yahan analysis me kar rahe ho utni mehnat literature me kar lo.
    Mashaallah, tel nikal jayega liver ka bata rahe hain. Point is they are competent in their areas n are rocking. Aap ki competence nahi hai apne subject me to ro ro ke excuse bana rahe ho.
    Le lo literature aur phor do.
    Gandh machaye hue hain.

    yeh kya argument hua yaar? UPSC agar paad raha hai toh sungho? Arre discussion hai isi baat ka ki ideally kya sahi hai, competence ki baat toh rehne do jin logon ke pub ad, geo, psycho, socio mein shuru se acche number aaya karte the woh bechare 3rd-4th attempt mein pil jaate, kyun? unki competence kam ho gayee? seedha sa funda hai UPSC ke standards uniform nahin hain na toh inter subjects na hi across time. Dusri baat literature mein aisi kya competence dekh li ki us bande ko 350-360 de diye? yahan log 3-3, 4-4 saal ghisa ke duniya bhar ki kitabe pad kar , answer writing practice karke nhn la paate. mein kitne hi iitians ko janta hun jinhone physics, maths chor ke paale literature se qualify kiya woh bhi 6-7 mahine padh ke..matlab iit-jee qualify karke, 4 saal iit mein pad ke maths, physics mein competence nhn aaya par 6-7 mahine paali litt pad ke aa gaya.

    optionals ghor anayaya hai. agar level playing field karni hai to isse hatna chhaiye. simple.

    Ye thread to Pathankot ho gaya bhai, 72 ghante baad bhi anti literature tirade chal raha hai.
    Jab maths, electrical, mechanical,physics wale phod rahe hote the do do optional le ke tab bahot maza aata tha..kyuki wo coveted optionals hain..wohi marks literature me aa gaye to kaleje pe saanp lot gaya hai..
    Aap kitni kitaben padh ke 150 me atak jate hain ye to koi argument nahi hai...Ab upsc aapki study material tol ke to number nahi degi. Koi Einstein hai to koi Shakespeare hai...Ab Einstein phor de to waah kya intelligent banda hai, aur literature wala baazi maar le to mockery of examination hai.
    Rahi baat pali ki to that was during two optional era when Ppl scouted for a new second optional. Aur dost this exam is all about management. You hv to plan your subject so that it can keep you interested in the process and help you in time management. Interest bhi hona chahiye.. Ab aap thaan lo ki ias nikaluga to sabse bhari bharkam fauladi optional ke saath to jaisi aapki marzi.

    Mai to phir kehta hu, literature pe khisiyane se accha hai ki le lo, October tak sari khumari utar jayegi janab.
  • apni conspiracy theories baad me invent karna pahele mera confusion hatao ke yeh Guj.Lit me itne kam marks kaise bc Prime minister apna hai fir bhi
  • but bottomline is not everybody can take physics/ engg optional but anybody can take literature optional....
    agar Shakespeare ki baat chal rahi hai toh ..how much one scores in english literature?
    Our survival instinct is our single greatest source of inspiration. - Dr. Mann
  • ABCDUPSC said:

    apni conspiracy theories baad me invent karna pahele mera confusion hatao ke yeh Guj.Lit me itne kam marks kaise bc Prime minister apna hai fir bhi

    ..modi doesnt believe in sons of soil theory...
    Our survival instinct is our single greatest source of inspiration. - Dr. Mann
  • TonyStark said:

    but bottomline is not everybody can take physics/ engg optional but anybody can take literature optional....
    agar Shakespeare ki baat chal rahi hai toh ..how much one scores in english literature?

    Yehi to misconception hai. Bhai literature is not about putting 12 points and 24 dimensions in an answer. It's more about emotion n sentiments. Sahitya ke marm ko samajhna hota hai and then you weave a soul touching answer with carefully chosen words. Unlike sociology which studies social phenomenons as empirical reality with the help of universal theories, literature brings us face to face with those phenomenon and the lived reality.
    You read poems n novels which makes u feel what it feels like to be an untouchable with all the attendant emotions. Manav jeevan ji vedna ko jeeta hai ek Sahitya ka marmagya.

    Phir kehta hu tum bhi le lo, halwa hai ekdum. October tak bhi nahi pacha paoge aisa halwa.
    Le lo
  • TonyStark said:

    but bottomline is not everybody can take physics/ engg optional but anybody can take literature optional....
    agar Shakespeare ki baat chal rahi hai toh ..how much one scores in english literature?

    Bottomline hain everybody cannot take literature u need to do a phd in literature to score it is more difficult than physics as a simple bsc in physics can solve the problem by mugging the derivation
  • FuChi said:

    TonyStark said:

    but bottomline is not everybody can take physics/ engg optional but anybody can take literature optional....
    agar Shakespeare ki baat chal rahi hai toh ..how much one scores in english literature?

    Yehi to misconception hai. Bhai literature is not about putting 12 points and 24 dimensions in an answer. It's more about emotion n sentiments. Sahitya ke marm ko samajhna hota hai and then you weave a soul touching answer with carefully chosen words. Unlike sociology which studies social phenomenons as empirical reality with the help of universal theories, literature brings us face to face with those phenomenon and the lived reality.
    You read poems n novels which makes u feel what it feels like to be an untouchable with all the attendant emotions. Manav jeevan ji vedna ko jeeta hai ek Sahitya ka marmagya.

    Phir kehta hu tum bhi le lo, halwa hai ekdum. October tak bhi nahi pacha paoge aisa halwa.
    Le lo
    toh dusre literature wale tuchiye hai??
    Our survival instinct is our single greatest source of inspiration. - Dr. Mann
  • F#@K LOGIC and say whatever you want

    जननी जन्मभूमिश्च स्वर्गादपि गरीयसी
  • ramjet said:

    F#@K LOGIC and say whatever you want

    are tu bakar me kahe nahi aata idhar bakar pel raha hai :/
  • TonyStark said:

    FuChi said:

    TonyStark said:

    but bottomline is not everybody can take physics/ engg optional but anybody can take literature optional....
    agar Shakespeare ki baat chal rahi hai toh ..how much one scores in english literature?

    Yehi to misconception hai. Bhai literature is not about putting 12 points and 24 dimensions in an answer. It's more about emotion n sentiments. Sahitya ke marm ko samajhna hota hai and then you weave a soul touching answer with carefully chosen words. Unlike sociology which studies social phenomenons as empirical reality with the help of universal theories, literature brings us face to face with those phenomenon and the lived reality.
    You read poems n novels which makes u feel what it feels like to be an untouchable with all the attendant emotions. Manav jeevan ji vedna ko jeeta hai ek Sahitya ka marmagya.

    Phir kehta hu tum bhi le lo, halwa hai ekdum. October tak bhi nahi pacha paoge aisa halwa.
    Le lo
    toh dusre literature wale tuchiye hai??
    Wo aap pata kijiye..aap bas do logon ke number leke jap rahe hain..baki literature n other optionals me bhi 300+ marks hain...parity ka matlab ye to nahi ki har optional ka highest lowest barabar ho...
  • ramjet said:

    F#@K LOGIC and say whatever you want

    @ramjet bakar par aao be

  • @ramjet kaha se laata hai bhaii tu...itte mindblowing motion based images? Always been fan of yours.
    RBI Grade B Manager
  • edited January 2016
    Vidhwa jeevan ke abhishaap ko characters ke through unfold hota dekhte ho. At the end it makes u more humane more empathetic, more considerate n tolerant. You end up accepting n respecting diversity not at a superficial level but from the core of your conscience. Simply putting, it transforms you by making you live and experience a thousand lives through as many characters from all walks of life.

    Ab le hi lo..der mat karo it's already mid Jan now.
  • waise yi kaun bol raha hai lit me pel ke number mil raha hai?
    are upsc bande wise moderation nahi karta wo paper wise karta hai.
    ab pub ad-1 ka highest kuch 170s me aur pub ad 2 ka highest 180s me hai.
    kitta hua highest 350s me.
    lit ka dekho isi tarah se.
    ab upsc kya karegi dono marks 1 ko kaise transfer.

    mera lit optional nahi hai (po sci hai usme bhi highest kam hi hai).
    lekin ye era bc d p aggarwal se better hai jab sci me 300+ aur arts me 200 ke lale >:)
  • FuChi said:

    TonyStark said:

    FuChi said:

    TonyStark said:

    but bottomline is not everybody can take physics/ engg optional but anybody can take literature optional....
    agar Shakespeare ki baat chal rahi hai toh ..how much one scores in english literature?

    Yehi to misconception hai. Bhai literature is not about putting 12 points and 24 dimensions in an answer. It's more about emotion n sentiments. Sahitya ke marm ko samajhna hota hai and then you weave a soul touching answer with carefully chosen words. Unlike sociology which studies social phenomenons as empirical reality with the help of universal theories, literature brings us face to face with those phenomenon and the lived reality.
    You read poems n novels which makes u feel what it feels like to be an untouchable with all the attendant emotions. Manav jeevan ji vedna ko jeeta hai ek Sahitya ka marmagya.

    Phir kehta hu tum bhi le lo, halwa hai ekdum. October tak bhi nahi pacha paoge aisa halwa.
    Le lo
    toh dusre literature wale tuchiye hai??
    Wo aap pata kijiye..aap bas do logon ke number leke jap rahe hain..baki literature n other optionals me bhi 300+ marks hain...parity ka matlab ye to nahi ki har optional ka highest lowest barabar ho...
    tabhi toh mai bata raha hun..regional bias hai...maano ya naa mano...yehi sach hai...
    Our survival instinct is our single greatest source of inspiration. - Dr. Mann
  • edited January 2016
    karan_004 said:

    Literature me sirf 2 logo ke hi to aae hai bhai..gaurav agarwal ke 270-80 economics me aaye the whereas everyone got 220 tht year..he got top rank just because of economics..why u people dont criticize him..i think everyone thinks literature is rattafication whereas economics is about intelligence...typical western mentality

    bhai isme western mentality wale baat kahan se aagayi hai ??? science, maths, economics ...they were developed from here only and spread to other parts of the world...western mentality hota toh marxism adopt kar leta...aur literature mei sirf regional language hi nahi hai..there is english literature too...why we are anxious is because not all literature subjects are getting their share...there are some litt. subjects from where not even a single person qualifies....on the other hand such high marks creates doubt on why this bias only to a specific literature..
    Our survival instinct is our single greatest source of inspiration. - Dr. Mann
  • edited January 2016
    bhai aap hindi bachpan se bol rahe ho lekin abhi bhi mein aapko bata deta hu ki aap ko hindi ke sirf 1 % ki knowledge hogi kam se kam 6000 se 10000 hindi me ese words hogaya jo aapne suna bhi nahi same goes with english , Literature mein tumhari gaand phat jayegi jab ki engineering to 6 months me hi khatam kardenge
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