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Which are the most suitable optionals for IFOSfor Civils Aspirants?

Since I am getting this question from a lot of people , and I may not Be the best person to advise on it, I am plus request IFoS toppers to throw some light on this.

1) What is the most suitable optional for IFoS for candidates who have non forest subjects such as sociology, philosophy etc and no forest optional in graduation background?

2) What are the most suitable optionals for people with Geography optional ?

3) what is the most suitable optional combo for non engineers, humanities graduation background students?

Assuming that the student is primarily preparing for CSE and is not primarily preparing for IFoS.


I spoke to Vaibhava Shrivastava who has secure first rank , and he recommended choosing Forestry ( commonly ) taken and Agriculturally engineering - for those good with tenth level maths .

Others can add some light to it so that people can make an informed choice.


@chuck and others , please guide. Your advice will help a lot of people.

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  • 1. Engineering or science background - PCMBZ and engineering subjects. Mostly chosen by those who did well in their graduation or post graduation.

    2. People who do well in commerce choose statistics. Some engineers with prior exposure also choose this.

    3. People with medical background may opt vet science or zoology.

    4. For all other clueless people,
    Agriculture, geology and forestry are the go to subjects.

    Agriculture and forestry can't be taken together so, people take agriculture and geology or geology and forestry combination.

    Off late people with biotech or interest towards biology are choosing zoology and botany as one of their optionals since they are perceived to well scoring.

    In any case, like everyone else suggests, forestry is one of the easiest subjects among all.

    And closest optional to geography is geology.
  • pizzza said:

    1. Engineering or science background - PCMBZ and engineering subjects. Mostly chosen by those who did well in their graduation or post graduation.

    2. People who do well in commerce choose statistics. Some engineers with prior exposure also choose this.

    3. People with medical background may opt vet science or zoology.

    4. For all other clueless people,
    Agriculture, geology and forestry are the go to subjects.

    Agriculture and forestry can't be taken together so, people take agriculture and geology or geology and forestry combination.

    Off late people with biotech or interest towards biology are choosing zoology and botany as one of their optionals since they are perceived to well scoring.

    In any case, like everyone else suggests, forestry is one of the easiest subjects among all.

    And closest optional to geography is geology.

    People with commerce as graduation can give IFOS?We read business statistics..
    Prelims=1 ,Mains= 1, Interview=0
    Essay-141 , GS-396 , PSIR Optional.
    Ex-Geography.
  • Marks analysis on IFoS 2015. See if it can help.
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    IFS 2015 MARKS ANALYSIS.xls
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  • Beuce said:

    pizzza said:

    1. Engineering or science background - PCMBZ and engineering subjects. Mostly chosen by those who did well in their graduation or post graduation.

    2. People who do well in commerce choose statistics. Some engineers with prior exposure also choose this.

    3. People with medical background may opt vet science or zoology.

    4. For all other clueless people,
    Agriculture, geology and forestry are the go to subjects.

    Agriculture and forestry can't be taken together so, people take agriculture and geology or geology and forestry combination.

    Off late people with biotech or interest towards biology are choosing zoology and botany as one of their optionals since they are perceived to well scoring.

    In any case, like everyone else suggests, forestry is one of the easiest subjects among all.

    And closest optional to geography is geology.

    People with commerce as graduation can give IFOS?We read business statistics..
    I am sorry. Thanks for correcting.
  • Neyawn said:

    Since I am getting this question from a lot of people , and I may not Be the best person to advise on it, I am plus request IFoS toppers to throw some light on this.

    1) What is the most suitable optional for IFoS for candidates who have non forest subjects such as sociology, philosophy etc and no forest optional in graduation background?

    2) What are the most suitable optionals for people with Geography optional ?

    3) what is the most suitable optional combo for non engineers, humanities graduation background students?

    Assuming that the student is primarily preparing for CSE and is not primarily preparing for IFoS.


    I spoke to Vaibhava Shrivastava who has secure first rank , and he recommended choosing Forestry ( commonly ) taken and Agriculturally engineering - for those good with tenth level maths .

    Others can add some light to it so that people can make an informed choice.


    @chuck and others , please guide. Your advice will help a lot of people.

    Sir raat tak batata hu ...abi thoda bahar hu
  • Geology not scoring these days? Pls guide.

    I was thinking of geology + forestry.
    And can it be prepared in limited time without coaching?
  • edited February 25
    nandini said:

    Geology not scoring these days? Pls guide.

    I was thinking of geology + forestry.
    And can it be prepared in limited time without coaching?

    AIR 2, AIR 30, AIR 55 are with Geology this time.
    Most of the IFOS aspirants write IFOS Mains with the same combo you mentioned.
    Prelims and Mains ke beech 6 months ka time hai. So yes it can be prepared.
    @nandini
  • nandini said:

    Geology not scoring these days? Pls guide.

    I was thinking of geology + forestry.
    And can it be prepared in limited time without coaching?

    AIR 2, AIR 30, AIR 55 are with Geology this time.
    Most of the IFOS aspirants write IFOS Mains with the same combo you mentioned.
    Prelims and Mains ke beech 6 months ka time hai. So yes it can be prepared.
    @nandini
    Thanks a ton!
  • How is forestry + Agriculture engineering combination?
  • edited February 25
    UVcan said:

    How is forestry + Agriculture engineering combination?

    Haan sahi hai.

    Vaise is saal bahut log Geology chhod ke Agriculture engg ki taraf jaa rahe hain.
  • UVcan said:

    How is forestry + Agriculture engineering combination?

    Not allowed
    It’s allowed
    Agriculture + forestry not allowed
  • UVcan said:

    UVcan said:

    How is forestry + Agriculture engineering combination?

    Not allowed
    It’s allowed
    Agriculture + forestry not allowed
    Agr engineering has mathematics involved in some parts right?
  • UVcan said:

    UVcan said:

    How is forestry + Agriculture engineering combination?

    Not allowed
    It’s allowed
    Agriculture + forestry not allowed
    Above comment of mine :)
  • nandini said:

    UVcan said:

    UVcan said:

    How is forestry + Agriculture engineering combination?

    Not allowed
    It’s allowed
    Agriculture + forestry not allowed
    Agr engineering has mathematics involved in some parts right?
    Yes mains paper have some numericals but it is basic maths
  • nandini said:

    UVcan said:

    UVcan said:

    How is forestry + Agriculture engineering combination?

    Not allowed
    It’s allowed
    Agriculture + forestry not allowed
    Agr engineering has mathematics involved in some parts right?
    Haan usme Numericals aate hain.
  • Toppers please throw some light on agri engineering optional for ifos.
    - is it doable after prelims?
    - availability of material/coaching?
  • Hiw is botany optional for an enhlgineer who havent studied biology after 10th. ?
  • dpagarwal said:

    Hiw is botany optional for an enhlgineer who havent studied biology after 10th. ?

    More like a slut in a nunnery :wink:
  • edited February 25
    UVcan said:

    Toppers please throw some light on agri engineering optional for ifos.
    - is it doable after prelims?
    - availability of material/coaching?

    A mix of Civil Engg(P1) and Mech. Engg(P2).
  • Agriculture + Zoology
  • Okay, just had a look at agriculture engineering. The syllabus seems short and tempting.

  • can anyone please clarify whether commerce graduate with business statistics as a subject can apply for ifos? i have done bcom from du.
  • can anyone please clarify whether commerce graduate with business statistics as a subject can apply for ifos? i have done bcom from du.

    No.
  • सिविल सेवा में इस साल बहुत कम सिर्फ 782 सीट्स होने के कारण, बहुत सारे लोग इस साल भारतीय वन सेवा परीक्षा देने वाले हैं ।

    हालत यहां तक हो गई है कि, जिन्होंने BA किया है ,ये ऐसे लोग भी वन सेवा परीक्षा देने के लिए कुछ न कुछ प्रयास कर रहे हैं कि कहीं कोई विषय मिल जाये हमारे स्नातक में पढ़ा हुआ जो कि वन सेवा परीक्षा मे हमारे बैठने की पात्रता सिद्ध कर दे ।
  • सिविल सेवा में इस साल बहुत कम सिर्फ 782 सीट्स होने के कारण, बहुत सारे लोग इस साल भारतीय वन सेवा परीक्षा देने वाले हैं ।

    हालत यहां तक हो गई है कि, जिन्होंने BA किया है ,ये ऐसे लोग भी वन सेवा परीक्षा देने के लिए कुछ न कुछ प्रयास कर रहे हैं कि कहीं कोई विषय मिल जाये हमारे स्नातक में पढ़ा हुआ जो कि वन सेवा परीक्षा मे हमारे बैठने की पात्रता सिद्ध कर दे ।

    Jinka 5-6 attempt hain wo sirf IFoS hi option bhar rahe hain.
  • edited February 25
    Neyawn said:

    Since I am getting this question from a lot of people , and I may not Be the best person to advise on it, I am plus request IFoS toppers to throw some light on this.

    1) What is the most suitable optional for IFoS for candidates who have non forest subjects such as sociology, philosophy etc and no forest optional in graduation background?

    2) What are the most suitable optionals for people with Geography optional ?

    3) what is the most suitable optional combo for non engineers, humanities graduation background students?

    Assuming that the student is primarily preparing for CSE and is not primarily preparing for IFoS.


    I spoke to Vaibhava Shrivastava who has secure first rank , and he recommended choosing Forestry ( commonly ) taken and Agriculturally engineering - for those good with tenth level maths .

    Others can add some light to it so that people can make an informed choice.


    @chuck and others , please guide. Your advice will help a lot of people.

    Humanities grad students are not eligible in IFS. It implies that aspirant must have done courses of Science/Math or Engineering.

    If anyone is having any Science/Math/Engg optional in CSM, then it would be the Best scenario. This optional could be common, with Forestry as the other optional in IFS.

    If not, i.e. if person has Humanities optional in CSM, then ...

    * he may choose P / C / M / Engg if he used to be very strong in it (during JEE preparation, or in college) & finds it interesting. Here,
    Negative = very high input requirement (~5 months minimum).
    Positives = (a) if one has given the necessary inputs, very high marks are assured, (b) coaching available

    * if time is a constraint: I suggest the following 3 optionals (along with Forestry; so have not mentioned Agriculture):

    1st Preference = Agricultural Engineering
    Negatives = absence of external guidance / coaching, unknown
    Positives = (a) requires less time (some have prepared it even in less than 1 month), (b) a few books (like Ojha-Michel & Jagdishwar Sahay) cover a major portion of the syllabus, (c) questions asked are usually direct, and on the expected lines
    Who can consider it more: anyone with Civil or Mechanical Engg B.Tech
    Other Remarks: (a) almost every year, a good number of candidates clear with Agri Engg. This time also atleast 4 candidates have cleared (& they are really helpful), (b) involves manageable maths, not very complex/technical

    2nd Preference = Botany
    Negatives = has a lot of stuff for pure memorization; may be boring for some
    Positives = (a) questions asked are easy, direct, and on the expected lines; (b) coaching available in Delhi; (c) a decent portion intersects with Forestry optional; (d) good material readily available on Internet also.
    Who can consider it more: anyone who has read Biology in 11th-12th also, or anyone who is good in memorizing scientific names, diagrams
    Other remarks: (a) IFS 2016 topper Vidushi (CS or Elec Engineer) had Botany + Forestry, (b) it may be manageable even if one has read Bio only till 10th, but has some interest

    3rd Preference = Geology
    Negatives = (a) Personally I found it tough to understand (atleast way higher than my other opt, Agriculture), (b) IFS 2016 & 2017 Geology papers/questions were difficult ...this trend "may" continue in 2018 also; (c) absence of credible guidance; (d) will take minimum 2.5-3 months; (e) scope of high marks is limited, I mean that highest in Geology is usually very less compared to other optionals
    Positives = (a) Personally I found it really interesting (more than Agriculture), (b) 16-19% of the syllabus covered by Geography [caution: this is amongst the easiest portion of Geology, so dont be lured by it]
    Who can consider it more: Candidates having Geography optional in CSM, & are strong in it (particularly in Units relevant for Geology), or those who found Geology very interesting & are confident in it
    Other remarks: Bangar can help in getting only upto 150-160 /200 marks in IFS Geology (considering a normal paper difficulty, normal luck of candidate, normal checking standard).

    Other options = Zoology + Forestry, Geology + Agriculture (my combo), etc
    Kisi ko numbers (& maths) me maza aata ho , to statistics pe bi soch skta hai


    P.S. 1: Views are my own (may be wrong), based on interaction with some candidates
    P.S. 2: I will share my detailed strategy for Agri & Geology in the next few days (after the marks are released)
  • chuck said:

    Neyawn said:

    Since I am getting this question from a lot of people , and I may not Be the best person to advise on it, I am plus request IFoS toppers to throw some light on this.

    1) What is the most suitable optional for IFoS for candidates who have non forest subjects such as sociology, philosophy etc and no forest optional in graduation background?

    2) What are the most suitable optionals for people with Geography optional ?

    3) what is the most suitable optional combo for non engineers, humanities graduation background students?

    Assuming that the student is primarily preparing for CSE and is not primarily preparing for IFoS.


    I spoke to Vaibhava Shrivastava who has secure first rank , and he recommended choosing Forestry ( commonly ) taken and Agriculturally engineering - for those good with tenth level maths .

    Others can add some light to it so that people can make an informed choice.


    @chuck and others , please guide. Your advice will help a lot of people.

    Humanities grad students are not eligible in IFS. It implies that aspirant must have done courses of Science/Math or Engineering.

    If anyone is having any Science/Math/Engg optional in CSM, then it would be the Best scenario. This optional could be common, with Forestry as the other optional in IFS.

    If not, i.e. if person has Humanities optional in CSM, then ...

    * he may choose P / C / M / Engg if he used to be very strong in it (during JEE preparation, or in college) & finds it interesting. Here,
    Negative = very high input requirement (~5 months minimum).
    Positives = (a) if one has given the necessary inputs, very high marks are assured, (b) coaching available

    * if time is a constraint: I suggest the following 3 optionals (along with Forestry; so have not mentioned Agriculture):

    1st Preference = Agricultural Engineering
    Negatives = absence of external guidance / coaching, unknown
    Positives = (a) requires less time (some have prepared it even in less than 1 month), (b) a few books (like Ojha-Michel & Jagdishwar Sahay) cover a major portion of the syllabus, (c) questions asked are usually direct, and on the expected lines
    Who can consider it more: anyone with Civil or Mechanical Engg B.Tech
    Other Remarks: (a) almost every year, a good number of candidates clear with Agri Engg. This time also atleast 4 candidates have cleared (& they are really helpful), (b) involves manageable maths, not very complex/technical

    2nd Preference = Botany
    Negatives = has a lot of stuff for pure memorization; may be boring for some
    Positives = (a) questions asked are easy, direct, and on the expected lines; (b) coaching available in Delhi; (c) a decent portion intersects with Forestry optional; (d) good material readily available on Internet also.
    Who can consider it more: anyone who has read Biology in 11th-12th also, or anyone who is good in memorizing scientific names, diagrams
    Other remarks: (a) IFS 2016 topper Vidushi (CS or Elec Engineer) had Botany + Forestry, (b) it may be manageable even if one has read Bio only till 10th, but has some interest

    3rd Preference = Geology
    Negatives = (a) Personally I found it tough to understand (atleast way higher than my other opt, Agriculture), (b) IFS 2016 & 2017 Geology papers/questions were difficult ...this trend "may" continue in 2018 also; (c) absence of credible guidance; (d) will take minimum 2.5-3 months; (e) scope of high marks is limited, I mean that highest in Geology is usually very less compared to other optionals
    Positives = (a) Personally I found it really interesting (more than Agriculture), (b) 16-19% of the syllabus covered by Geography [caution: this is amongst the easiest portion of Geology, so dont be lured by it]
    Who can consider it more: Candidates having Geography optional in CSM, & are strong in it (particularly in Units relevant for Geology), or those who found Geology very interesting & are confident in it
    Other remarks: Bangar can help in getting only upto 150-160 /200 marks in IFS Geology (considering a normal paper difficulty, normal luck of candidate, normal checking standard).

    Other options = Zoology + Forestry, Geology + Agriculture (my combo), etc
    Kisi ko numbers (& maths) me maza aata ho , to statistics pe bi soch skta hai


    P.S. 1: Views are my own (may be wrong), based on interaction with some candidates
    P.S. 2: I will share my detailed strategy for Agri & Geology in the next few days (after the marks are released)
    thanks
    once again HUSTLE
  • chuck said:

    Neyawn said:

    Since I am getting this question from a lot of people , and I may not Be the best person to advise on it, I am plus request IFoS toppers to throw some light on this.

    1) What is the most suitable optional for IFoS for candidates who have non forest subjects such as sociology, philosophy etc and no forest optional in graduation background?

    2) What are the most suitable optionals for people with Geography optional ?

    3) what is the most suitable optional combo for non engineers, humanities graduation background students?

    Assuming that the student is primarily preparing for CSE and is not primarily preparing for IFoS.


    I spoke to Vaibhava Shrivastava who has secure first rank , and he recommended choosing Forestry ( commonly ) taken and Agriculturally engineering - for those good with tenth level maths .

    Others can add some light to it so that people can make an informed choice.


    @chuck and others , please guide. Your advice will help a lot of people.

    Humanities grad students are not eligible in IFS. It implies that aspirant must have done courses of Science/Math or Engineering.

    If anyone is having any Science/Math/Engg optional in CSM, then it would be the Best scenario. This optional could be common, with Forestry as the other optional in IFS.

    If not, i.e. if person has Humanities optional in CSM, then ...

    * he may choose P / C / M / Engg if he used to be very strong in it (during JEE preparation, or in college) & finds it interesting. Here,
    Negative = very high input requirement (~5 months minimum).
    Positives = (a) if one has given the necessary inputs, very high marks are assured, (b) coaching available

    * if time is a constraint: I suggest the following 3 optionals (along with Forestry; so have not mentioned Agriculture):

    1st Preference = Agricultural Engineering
    Negatives = absence of external guidance / coaching, unknown
    Positives = (a) requires less time (some have prepared it even in less than 1 month), (b) a few books (like Ojha-Michel & Jagdishwar Sahay) cover a major portion of the syllabus, (c) questions asked are usually direct, and on the expected lines
    Who can consider it more: anyone with Civil or Mechanical Engg B.Tech
    Other Remarks: (a) almost every year, a good number of candidates clear with Agri Engg. This time also atleast 4 candidates have cleared (& they are really helpful), (b) involves manageable maths, not very complex/technical

    2nd Preference = Botany
    Negatives = has a lot of stuff for pure memorization; may be boring for some
    Positives = (a) questions asked are easy, direct, and on the expected lines; (b) coaching available in Delhi; (c) a decent portion intersects with Forestry optional; (d) good material readily available on Internet also.
    Who can consider it more: anyone who has read Biology in 11th-12th also, or anyone who is good in memorizing scientific names, diagrams
    Other remarks: (a) IFS 2016 topper Vidushi (CS or Elec Engineer) had Botany + Forestry, (b) it may be manageable even if one has read Bio only till 10th, but has some interest

    3rd Preference = Geology
    Negatives = (a) Personally I found it tough to understand (atleast way higher than my other opt, Agriculture), (b) IFS 2016 & 2017 Geology papers/questions were difficult ...this trend "may" continue in 2018 also; (c) absence of credible guidance; (d) will take minimum 2.5-3 months; (e) scope of high marks is limited, I mean that highest in Geology is usually very less compared to other optionals
    Positives = (a) Personally I found it really interesting (more than Agriculture), (b) 16-19% of the syllabus covered by Geography [caution: this is amongst the easiest portion of Geology, so dont be lured by it]
    Who can consider it more: Candidates having Geography optional in CSM, & are strong in it (particularly in Units relevant for Geology), or those who found Geology very interesting & are confident in it
    Other remarks: Bangar can help in getting only upto 150-160 /200 marks in IFS Geology (considering a normal paper difficulty, normal luck of candidate, normal checking standard).

    Other options = Zoology + Forestry, Geology + Agriculture (my combo), etc
    Kisi ko numbers (& maths) me maza aata ho , to statistics pe bi soch skta hai


    P.S. 1: Views are my own (may be wrong), based on interaction with some candidates
    P.S. 2: I will share my detailed strategy for Agri & Geology in the next few days (after the marks are released)
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