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Public Administration-2018 ForumIAS answer writing and Review

Students of public ad Optional can post answers on every alternate day Monday, Wednesday, Friday till 9 PM in evening and others will review your answers after 9.pm
Sample senario: (A answer is posted on Monday , others will check and review it till Tuesday and no review of any answer(pdfs) will be posted on Wednesday ,when only new answers will be posted till 9 p.m again)
i propose this to make this process more structured
Rules for Posting answers
1. Only PDFs are to be uploaded and atmost 3 answers in it and one person can post only one pdf in one cyle (i.e Monday-Tuesday)
2. Use Cam scanner or Google drive (preferred) to scan the pages to PDF
3. While posting answers one must list one word tags for each question ( eg if answer is abour CPM , just write Q1- CPM ) , this will help others to read only topics they want to
Rules for reviewing
1. The review must start with marks out of 10 (on lines of UPSC checking) (ie7.5-8 will be among highest)
2.Review answer(s) in point wise method (if more than one answer is posted )

side notes :
If possible we could compile the answers (of most probable questions to be asked in UPSC)as Insights team does at end of each week /month with best model answers

We could host a Test marathon posted on saturday , whose answers should be given till sunday evening (no review could be possible)
no Bakkar in this thread ( i am in , side comments etc type comments)

google drive links , disqus links can also be posted , but its HIGHLY recoomended to upload files here as shifting platforms is cumbersome and reduces efficiancy

@mango_dolly @IWRA @Indian_Raider_ @NWS please look into this @ForumIAS @Neyawn
it would be beneficial if mods could make it announcement (for like 3 days-week) so that all could see this thread and contribute accordingly
all logistics and other discussion can be continued at http://discuss.forumias.com/discussion/29078/logistics-discussion-of-pa-2018-thread?new=1
once again HUSTLE

Comments

  • Just a Suggestion !

    We can go on a 10 days or a Week schedule.

    Like first 10 days... on Ques on Chapter 1 and so on.

    'Believe'
  • is this initiative continuing??
    2015: pelims p1 62
    2016: pelims p1 114 mains 726
    2017: prelims p1 116.66 (forum key)
  • edited January 26
    Ezzio said:

    is this initiative continuing??

    No it never started
    @Neyawn and @Yo_Yo_Choti_Singh ko request kia tha too look into it
    But maybe its not practical so forumias team wont invest time in it
    Practice questions on own ,
    the insights group is still lil active on disqus i hope check that out
    Good luck
    once again HUSTLE
  • Arey bhai ek thread badiya pehle se hain...wahan aao na...
  • Arey bhai ek thread badiya pehle se hain...wahan aao na...

    bhai kaunsa wala ?
    all previous threads are unorganized , issliye asked for a new one "anyways keep studying @Nanhe_samrat1
    once again HUSTLE
  • edited January 27

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  • edited January 27
    Hello, guys. I've appeared multiple times in the mains. Last scored 260+ in PA in 2016. Would you like to be part of Weekly tests ? It will be one chapter for every week, starting with paper 2.
    It'll be a 2/3 hour test of one chapter. We'll cover all the PYQs and one test series from market. It'll have be written on paper and PDFs uploaded via Telegram. I'm sharing one of my copy from a test that I took myself.
    If you know someone who have done well before, try asking them about this as well.
    4th Feb -- Evolution
    11th Feb -- Union/Plans
    18th Feb -- State
    25th Feb -- Financial Mgmt/Admin
    4th Mar -- PSUs
    11th Mar -- Rural/Urban
    18th Mar -- District
    25th Mar -- A&C
    1st Apr -- Personnel/Civil Service
    8th Apr -- Techniques
    15th Apr -- Signi Values
    22nd Apr -- L&O
    29th Apr -- Philosophy
    (Rest of PA-1 post prelims)
    Those who are interested in writing tests can send me their Telegram id or phone no.

    pdf
    pdf
    asd.pdf
    6M
  • We just need few enthusiastic souls. The game would be afoot in no times.

    See the format of this thread and how it ran till 164 pages. This thread is very dear to me because I learnt much of my pub ad from here.

    http://discuss.forumias.com/discussion/7274/public-administration-2015-covering-new-syllabus/p1

    Its right time to create a new thread with same vigor and commitment.

    Go through that thread and few pages to understand how beautifully it worked.
    The angels are lost in perpetual contemplation of an infinite glory.
  • Can someone share Lukmaan question papers of test series which is ongoing.
    The angels are lost in perpetual contemplation of an infinite glory.
  • Hello, This is an invitation to join a group of public administration weekly test writing series. It is ongoing already and entering into second paper of public administration from next week. I urge those who have appeared in mains before and scored well or those who have completed their syllabus to send me a message with telegram id. Currently, group constitutes of 3 people who have scored 250+ in 2016 and 2 of them appeared in 2017 mains as well. We would love to have couple of more people so that a good intra-group competition and reviewing of answers happens. I request that only those who are interested in silently writing their tests on weekly basis message me.
    One chapter test (2/3 hour) every week. We'll cover all the PYQs and one test series( lukmaan) from market. Test have to be taken on paper and pdf's uploaded on the test day. Question paper will be uploaded on the same day.
    Schedule for tests :
    4th Feb -- Evolution
    11th Feb -- Union/Plans
    18th Feb -- State
    25th Feb -- Financial Mgmt/Admin
    4th Mar -- PSUs
    11th Mar -- Rural/Urban
    18th Mar -- District
    25th Mar -- A&C
    1st Apr -- Personnel/Civil Service
    8th Apr -- Techniques
    15th Apr -- Signi Values
    22nd Apr -- L&O
    29th Apr -- Philosophy
    (Rest of PA-1 post prelims)
  • I’m interested
  • Hello again,

    Those who are serious about writing 3-hour test on every Sunday can use this link : https://www.evernote.com/pub/chiragmaroke/publicad
    It is 15 member group currently. Mostly those who scored 250+ in 2016 or wrote Mains in 2017 are members.
    Use the link only if you genuinely want to participate.
    First test was conducted today. I'm attaching my answer sheet for helping the serious people making judgement about joining or not.
    pdf
    pdf
    Chirag(Test#1).pdf
    7M
  • Hadfield said:

    Hello again,

    Those who are serious about writing 3-hour test on every Sunday can use this link : https://www.evernote.com/pub/chiragmaroke/publicad
    It is 15 member group currently. Mostly those who scored 250+ in 2016 or wrote Mains in 2017 are members.
    Use the link only if you genuinely want to participate.
    First test was conducted today. I'm attaching my answer sheet for helping the serious people making judgement about joining or not.

    Ya saw ur mail frm insights group too
    once again HUSTLE
  • Hi Guys,

    I got 3 pub ad books with me that I want to sell.

    1. Public administration ( Laxmikanth ) - Absolutely New
    2. Indian public administration ( Ramesh Arora, Rajni Goyal )
    3. Public administration ( Theories and Concepts ) - Fadia & Fadia

    Total Current cost of books - Around Rs. 1400
    Take away price - Rs 500.

    Pick up will be from Noida. Interested then let me know.
    Do it.
  • Caution: A very long post explaining everything leveled against me.If you want to read it, read it fully. If you stop in the middle, you will misunderstand me and thats not my fault. 
    Read it only if your unbiased towards me and want to know the true facts, other wise please continue with your blind criticism and ignore this.

    I am sure Mrunal sir is not at all upset about "anything that has happened on forum".
    He is targeting those who are posting unscientific methods and those who are asking new aspirants to "blindly guess". 

    Let me first make the issue of Roman Saini very clear.
    Summary of his video,
    1. "His tricks and tips" were about "Maximizing score" may be by 1 or 2 or 5 or 10 or may some 15 marks. He never suggested any of those tricks telling that they are "For passing the exam". He suggested those tricks only and only for "maximizing the score" which is very essential because the prelims has become a cut throat competition. One has to do everything and anything to make sure he has to write the mains examination at any cost. Nobody wants to lose one valuable year just because of not trying enough. Hard work will definitely enable people to pass the exam, but only a few. Hard work + Smart work is the only way to pass prelims exam for "majority of the students". 
    This is the fault of the UPSC, they have forced such outcomes due to such question papers and only 200 marks deciding cutoff. Students will do everything to pass the exam, remember its a war, everything is fair in love and war. 

    2. Where did Roman go wrong? "According to me, personally". Roman did not give enough examples for his tricks and tips. That is where a lot of newbies suffered immensely. Those tricks definitely work, but only for those who know how to make them work. One needs to put in serious effort to make those tricks work and that comes only by solving thousands, yes you heard it right, thousands of Mcqs. One has to observe, analyze and practice those patterns. Only then can those tricks be fruitful. Directly applying it in exam is a sure recipe for disaster, this should have been conveyed by Roman and thats why, even though his Video is genuinely helpful is widely criticized among the aspirant community. 

    Now come back to my issue, Some people have so much issue with me that they not only abused my racial identity but also called me not fit enough to pass this exam. Fine, alright, people can have opinions, i have no issues with that.

    I had made a thread recently explaining how to logically and statistically guess in prelims, with proof. 
    I tried to explain the things that roman conveyed in his video, in a much better way, "along with the necessary caution" that i am neither endorsing it nor encouraging anyone to do it. "It was only to educate people how to observe patterns in question papers and how to judge the philosophy and thought process behind the questions"
    Next,
    Why did i not share it before prelims,
    Three reasons,
    1. I will be very honest with all of you. I was selfish, Yes. This exam is such a rat race, i did not want the cutoff to inflate and jeopardize my own selection. My selection is my first priority, just like how all of you also think. 
    2. Sharing here only on forum would have immensely benefited only those aspirants who visit forum. There are 10k downloads of forumias app on play store, so imagine the effect it could have had on cutoff. I would never want any hardworking student to suffer who doesnt have access to internet or forum. This was my intention, to not make it unfairly advantageous for the visitors of this forum.
    3. Since, it is statistical data, there is only a possibility of that occurring in the next exam, but there's no guarantee. I did not want people to have a look at it just one week before exam and directly go apply it in the exam without any practice. It would have been a calamity of the scale of tsunami. Practice is very essential like i said before, to apply these methods.

    Why did i share them after exam,
    1. I saw many threads coming up, where people were confused, because they had studied all the sources yet they were unable to score high. They wanted to know how to take risks and guess in the most logical way in the exam. In order to educate them, well ahead of prelims 2018, one year before exam, i shared some of my knowledge so that they can practice and get benefited. Also, only forum visitors wouldnt have got benefited because one year is a lot of time and the tricks would have spread mouth to mouth to the corners of the community. 
    2. I also wanted UPSC to see those tricks. I wanted them to realize that, by making students guess in such a way, they are losing out on quality. They are getting people who may not be up to mark in terms of understanding of the subjects in the syllabus. This is not only a loss to the UPSC but also a loss to the country in a larger sense. Half baked civil servants is the result of the current scheme and pattern of prelims. 
    I wanted UPSC to see these tricks, so that they could change the pattern next year and set up thought provoking, analytical and understanding based questions relating to the subjects in the syllabus(just like this year's polity questions - they were of very good quality). 
    3. To develop a sense of observation and analysis among the aspirants, its a key factor in this exam process, be it in prelims or mains. Those who observe and analyze things better are without any doubt the toppers of this exam. Ask any topper, he would tell you the importance of smart work. 

    Still, i am sharing the pdf again, If any one of you can find one wrong suggestion in this pdf, let me know. I will humbly quit civil services preparation. I would never do something that would affect anyone in a wrong way. I believe in karma, if i do good, i receive good, if i dont, i will be doomed. So there's no reason why i would misguide someone.

    I told everyone on the thread that, "it is just one among the million ways to solve mcqs, its not the only way", the larger intention was to educate how to find patterns. I called it scientific because it is based on statistical data and there has been not just research but meta studies done on how to solve mcqs, all those tricks were applicable in 2014,15,16 and 17(29 Questions which i had explained on the thread). If statistics is not scientific, then i am not sure whats scientific(directed at the criticism). 

    Also, i have clearly used the word "context" in my pdf, which means that one should have prior knowledge base to guess, one should not guess blindly by using statistics. I always meant prior knowledge + statistical observations = efficient guessing. 

    Our only aim is to book a seat in mains, how we do it doesnt matter, because the competition is cut-throat and the stake is magnanimous. 
    That is all i have to say on this. 

    PS, i had typed all these things on that thread, but people were not ready to understand for god knows why. I have received many gratitude msgs over the inbox for that thread and i am thankful to them. Even if one person was helped, my job is done.
  • Let's start this thread again and start unit wise questions
  • Let's start this thread again and start unit wise questions

    It never materialised , mayb3 coz it was too structured and thus impractical
    once again HUSTLE
  • Is there any other group or website regarding public admin writing practice?
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