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Transparency in UPSC

Transparency in UPSC CSE is an issue to be dealt by aspirants community itself irrespective of level of preparation.
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  • Aspirants from all walk of society, from different backgrounds w.r.t. medium, social strata etc. unanimously want this issue to be seriously handled. However, being a competitive student they have their own limitations to march in this movement.
  • सिविल सेवा परीक्षा के प्रीलिम्स में दो पेपर होते हैं। हर पेपर 200 नंबरों का होता है। लेकिन दूसरा पेपर केवल क्वालीफाइंग होता है। इसका मतलब है कि मेरिट बनती है केवल 200 नंबरों पर।

  • दो साल से कटऑफ लगभग 110 के आस-पास रहती रही है। परीक्षा में प्रतिस्पर्धा के स्तर का अंदाजा आप इस तथ्य से लगा सकते हैं कि प्रीलिम्स में सेलेक्ट होने वाले लगभग आधे बच्चे कटऑफ से 10 नंबर के दायरे में ही रहते हैं। एक प्रश्न होता है दो नंबर का और गलत होने पर नेगेटिव मार्किंग होती है एक तिहाई। इसका मतलब है कि एक प्रश्न गलत होने पर छात्र के 2.67 नंबर कट जाएंगे। यानी कि एक प्रश्न का हेर-फेर लगभग 15% (क्योंकि कटऑफ के पास सघनता और ज्यादा होती है) और दो प्रश्नों का हेर-फेर 25% पोटेंशियल उम्मीदवारों को बाहर का रास्ता दिखाने के लिये काफी है।

    इस बार प्रीलिम्स के पेपर में ऐसे कम से कम 8 -10 सवाल पूछे गए। ऐसे में प्रीलिम्स में सेलेक्ट होना प्रतिभा से ज्यादा तो भाग्य पर निर्भर होता दिख रहा है जोकि छात्रों के साथ सरासर अन्याय है।

  • यूपीएससी द्वारा इस बार 18 जून को आयोजित की गई सिविल सेवा प्रीलिम्स परीक्षा 2017 के जनरल स्टडीज पेपर में 8-10 ऐम्बिग्यूअस (अस्पष्ट) प्रश्न पूछे गये हैं।
  • यहां ऐम्बिग्यूअस प्रश्न से मतलब है कि जिस प्रश्न की बनावट के कारण उसके कई उत्तर संभव हो जाएं। सिविल सेवा प्रीलिम्स परीक्षा में ऐसे बहुविकल्पीय प्रश्न पूछे जाते हैं जिसमें चार विकल्प दिए जाते हैं और स्वाभाविक रूप से उनमें से एक विकल्प प्रश्न का सही जवाब होता है। पर ऐम्बग्यूइटी के कारण कई प्रश्नों में एक के बजाय दो-दो जवाब सही हो गये हैं।

  • However, ambiguity in CSE Pre 2017 is not the only example to show non-transparent nature of this exam. There are issues at all level from Pre to Interview.
  • Brother, For those who gets selected, UPSC is utmost transparent and pious body. For the unfortunate ones, it is completely opaque. The real truth lies in between the two ends.

    PS: My attempts got over in 2017(including Prelims 2017) and after giving 4 mains and 1 interview, I think something is fishy about all of the selection stages.
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  • Okay. Yes it lacks accountability.
    So what do you guys propose to do to make it transparent?
    What steps can be taken by aspirants?
    Just do it.
  • Students for Institutional Reforms #SIR

    #UPSCStopInjustice #IntransparentUPSC #AmbiguityInUPSCprelims2017


    To bring transparency in UPSC , release of the answer key after Pre examination is the starting point. Then comes the scaling issue in Mains, and after that PI marks and biased behavior of interview panel. The list does not ends here - it also includes abrupt downsizing of number of candidates belonging to regional languages in Mains examination in past few years from, victims of CSAT etc.
  • Pin said:

    Okay. Yes it lacks accountability.
    So what do you guys propose to do to make it transparent?
    What steps can be taken by aspirants?

    We are working on multiple fronts. One litigation related to ambiguity in CSE Pre 2017 had been filed in Delhi HC.

    Another one would get registered in SC in couple of few hours, considering weaknesses of Ashita Chawla's case.

    Next week in litigation would get filed in Karnataka HC. Another one is under drafting process to get filed in Allahabad HC.

    Moreover, CSAT victims are litigating for their cause by end of this month.

    But the story does not leads to court only.
  • Brother, For those who gets selected, UPSC is utmost transparent and pious body. For the unfortunate ones, it is completely opaque. The real truth lies in between the two ends.

    PS: My attempts got over in 2017(including Prelims 2017) and after giving 4 mains and 1 interview, I think something is fishy about all of the selection stages.

    Yes , indeed. While working on ambiguity issue in CSE 2017 we met many people having different grievances. The issues includes institutional, procedural and meritocracy vs aristocracy etc etc
  • In last one month , we are knocking door of every aggrieved aspirant along with the persons who are symathetic to our cause. The lists include ministers, MPs, Ex-bureaucrats, activists, media houses .
  • I appeal to all our friends who are planning to appear in CSE 2018, appeared in 2017 and in past, and all those who are aggrieved to come together and give their valuable suggestions. You can also join people active on social media front including twitter.

    These are the hastag to be used on Twitter - #IntransparentUPSC #UPSCStopInjustice #AmbiguityInUPSCprelims2017 join #SIR i.e. Students for Institutional Reform
  • I appeal to all our friends who are planning to appear in CSE 2018, appeared in 2017 and in past, and all those who are aggrieved to come together and give their valuable suggestions. You can also join people active on social media front including twitter.

    These are the hastag to be used on Twitter - #IntransparentUPSC #UPSCStopInjustice #AmbiguityInUPSCprelims2017 join #SIR i.e. Students for Institutional Reform

    :+1:

  • इस बार एक प्रश्न सिन्धु घाटी सभ्यता पर आया। अभ्यर्थी से कई सारी जानकारियां चाहने वाले इस सवाल का जवाब अकेली इस बात पर टिक गया कि सिन्धु घाटी सभ्यता में घोड़े के साक्ष्य मिले कि नहीं? और इस बात पर तो इतिहासकारों में दो फाड़ है। एक धड़ा कहता है कि घोड़े के साक्ष्य मिले और दूसरा कहता है नहीं मिले। लोगों ने अपनी-अपनी किताबों में अपने-अपने तर्क और धारणायें देकर अपनी बात को साबित करने की कोशिश भी की है। सिविल सेवा की तैयारी करने वाले लोग इन्हीं अलग-अलग किताबों से पढ़ाई करते हैं। लिहाजा परीक्षा में उम्मीदवारों ने इस सवाल पर अलग-अलग विकल्प भरे, जोकि देखा जाए तो गलत भी नहीं था।
  • hmmm

    These are the hastag to be used on Twitter - #IntransparentUPSC #UPSCStopInjustice #AmbiguityInUPSCprelims2017 join #SIR i.e. Students for Institutional Reform
  • “In the Constitution of India Article 320(1) It shall be the duty of the Union and the State Public Service Commission to conduct examinations for appointments to the services of the Union and the services of the State respectively.” By taking wider interpretation of the spirit of the article 320(1), a mandate to conduct examination also means a mandate to conduct examination in a fair manner.

    Because of unfair standards in UPSC Civil Services Preliminary Exa mination 2017, The constitutional mandate under article 320(1) has been clearly violated.
  • Pin said:

    Okay. Yes it lacks accountability.
    So what do you guys propose to do to make it transparent?
    What steps can be taken by aspirants?

    We are working on multiple fronts. One litigation related to ambiguity in CSE Pre 2017 had been filed in Delhi HC.

    Another one would get registered in SC in couple of few hours, considering weaknesses of Ashita Chawla's case.

    Next week in litigation would get filed in Karnataka HC. Another one is under drafting process to get filed in Allahabad HC.

    Moreover, CSAT victims are litigating for their cause by end of this month.

    But the story does not leads to court only.
    What is the status of litigation filed at Delhi HC?
  • polarbear said:

    Pin said:

    Okay. Yes it lacks accountability.
    So what do you guys propose to do to make it transparent?
    What steps can be taken by aspirants?

    We are working on multiple fronts. One litigation related to ambiguity in CSE Pre 2017 had been filed in Delhi HC.

    Another one would get registered in SC in couple of few hours, considering weaknesses of Ashita Chawla's case.

    Next week in litigation would get filed in Karnataka HC. Another one is under drafting process to get filed in Allahabad HC.

    Moreover, CSAT victims are litigating for their cause by end of this month.

    But the story does not leads to court only.
    What is the status of litigation filed at Delhi HC?
    Most probably hearing would be in next week only. Dat yet to be confirmed.
  • Brother, For those who gets selected, UPSC is utmost transparent and pious body. For the unfortunate ones, it is completely opaque. The real truth lies in between the two ends.

    PS: My attempts got over in 2017(including Prelims 2017) and after giving 4 mains and 1 interview, I think something is fishy about all of the selection stages.

    Yes , indeed. While working on ambiguity issue in CSE 2017 we met many people having different grievances. The issues includes institutional, procedural and meritocracy vs aristocracy etc etc
    Best of luck for your future endeavors in the protest against the ambiguity of the CSE selection process. For me it's the end of the road. I started this journey at 21 and now at 27 I am satisfied that I gave whatever this exam needs. Selection is important and so is this journey of preparation as It makes you a well informed individual who can serve the society in numerous ways. One thing I want to advice you that please don't make this exam your life. Life is much much bigger than CSE.
  • polarbear said:

    Pin said:

    Okay. Yes it lacks accountability.
    So what do you guys propose to do to make it transparent?
    What steps can be taken by aspirants?

    We are working on multiple fronts. One litigation related to ambiguity in CSE Pre 2017 had been filed in Delhi HC.

    Another one would get registered in SC in couple of few hours, considering weaknesses of Ashita Chawla's case.

    Next week in litigation would get filed in Karnataka HC. Another one is under drafting process to get filed in Allahabad HC.

    Moreover, CSAT victims are litigating for their cause by end of this month.

    But the story does not leads to court only.
    What is the status of litigation filed at Delhi HC?
    Most probably hearing would be in next week only. Dat yet to be confirmed.
    OK. Hoping for best.
  • Brother, For those who gets selected, UPSC is utmost transparent and pious body. For the unfortunate ones, it is completely opaque. The real truth lies in between the two ends.

    PS: My attempts got over in 2017(including Prelims 2017) and after giving 4 mains and 1 interview, I think something is fishy about all of the selection stages.

    Yes , indeed. While working on ambiguity issue in CSE 2017 we met many people having different grievances. The issues includes institutional, procedural and meritocracy vs aristocracy etc etc
    Best of luck for your future endeavors in the protest against the ambiguity of the CSE selection process. For me it's the end of the road. I started this journey at 21 and now at 27 I am satisfied that I gave whatever this exam needs. Selection is important and so is this journey of preparation as It makes you a well informed individual who can serve the society in numerous ways. One thing I want to advice you that please don't make this exam your life. Life is much much bigger than CSE.
    Appreciate u ! Now this is not just about CSE, it's about Transparency.
  • My Tuppence -

    1. Make CSAT go online mode.
    2. Let go of optional subject.
    3. Mains - Release question wise marks.
    4. Make answer sheets available on Internet.
    I rebel; therefore I exist.
  • My Tuppence -

    1. Make CSAT go online mode.
    2. Let go of optional subject.
    3. Mains - Release question wise marks.
    4. Make answer sheets available on Internet.

    Very true.
    Need transparency at all levels.

  • Very good , UPSC needs to be transparent and since its not, only litigation and raising our voices would make it accountable. I will surly tweet about this following these hashtags.

    Nobody wants to do dharna or litigation or twitter satyagraha normally. Only those who have lost age/attempt are now rising their voices. But in my honest opinion, this community as whole should raise its voice, but only if they truly thinks that some thing needs to done.

    ps: written 2 mains, 4 attempts gone. And after taking pre 2017 started believing in luck.
  • Simultaneously approaching many HC, SC may not be a good idea.
    Moreover I am not going to expect our judiciary to open so called Pandora Box (judges themselves told this) they knew everything is not going well, but mostly judiciary not ready to entertain petitions that need more scrutiny of UPSC.

    Two chances for any meaningful hearing with some minor outcomes:
    1. Concerned Judges (should be CJI or other SC judge) discretion, favours to find some solution eg. Like constituting larger bench to deliver privacy verdict - it was unanimous!
    2. Palpable public/entire student community opinion/ anger that against UPSC - but this is not going to happen easily. This happened during CSAT protest. Courts only entertaining PIL about issues that perceived by public as important, larger impact. Aspirants are not able to spent time for these activities. Even prelims cleared person feel it's not fair, but get busy with exam process. Failed person mostly get depressed for some time and restart or quite. Very few choose to fight mighty UPSC. Now it's numbers game.
    Hunt alone
  • My Tuppence -

    1. Make CSAT go online mode.
    2. Let go of optional subject.
    3. Mains - Release question wise marks.
    4. Make answer sheets available on Internet.

    5. Audio-visual recording of interview.
    I rebel; therefore I exist.
  • Point 3 n 4 isn't practical. Just easy availability of your answer sheet to all people on RTI should be enough.


  • Rasputin said:

    Point 3 n 4 isn't practical. Just easy availability of your answer sheet to all people on RTI should be enough.

    hmm
    I rebel; therefore I exist.
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