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Extra attempts for cse due to syllabus change

All those who attempted cse in 2013 2014 2015 must get two extra attempts. First csat was made qualifying. Earlier one optional was removed. Earlier 2011 candidates got one extra attempt due to csat introduction. Then why should extra attempts not be given due to changes which were massive. Anyone wants to work out how to petition upsc and courts lets discuss seriously.

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  • Seriously guys wake up its your future! !!!!!
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  • Due to introduction of csat one extra attempt was given...
    By same logic...
    Extra attempt should also be given...
    For change in mains syllabus...
    For making csat qualifying...
    Don't u agree?
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  • edited July 2
    Right now about 2-3 lakhs out of 4-5 lakhs who appeared are hoping to clear Prelims..
    (some by virtue of performance B) , remaining by virtue of divine intervention o:) )

    Right now majority candidates are no-changers and against moving any petition.. In one word loyalists..
    The night of results brings a sea- change in their loyalties.. The heartly pain transforms the loyalty to frustration..

    Then suddenly the next day of results, they will become pro-changers and start raising your threads and calling you to petition for reforms from the govt and compensating for their loss through attempts.. And the cycle continues..
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  • All those who attempted cse in 2013 2014 2015 must get two extra attempts. First csat was made qualifying. Earlier one optional was removed. Earlier 2011 candidates got one extra attempt due to csat introduction. Then why should extra attempts not be given due to changes which were massive. Anyone wants to work out how to petition upsc and courts lets discuss seriously.

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  • Well.. the intention is good
    What do you hope to do!
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  • :D :D :D...
    Man is sometimes extraordinarily, passionately, in love with suffering.
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  • Bhak burbak! Impossible hai yeh.
    Dead and departed general caste player. RIP.
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  • A movement for this is already on.. interview lobbying going on.. issue rakhe in parliament.. hote protest is planned on 10july and on 24 july. plz do participate
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  • zoly said:
    Thanks for the effort I hope more people join this group
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  • saargupta said:

    Well.. the intention is good
    What do you hope to do!

    Bro I am looking to discuss with like minded people wat can be done and how spoon cos time is of essence
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  • zoly said:

    A movement for this is already on.. interview lobbying going on.. issue rakhe in parliament.. hote protest is planned on 10july and on 24 july. plz do participate

    Bro I will not be able to come myself cos I am working in mumbai but all those in Delhi should go
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  • Smart Man said:

    Right now about 2-3 lakhs out of 4-5 lakhs who appeared are hoping to clear Prelims..
    (some by virtue of performance B) , remaining by virtue of divine intervention o:) )

    Right now majority candidates are no-changers and against moving any petition.. In one word loyalists..
    The night of results brings a sea- change in their loyalties.. The heartly pain transforms the loyalty to frustration..

    Then suddenly the next day of results, they will become pro-changers and start raising your threads and calling you to petition for reforms from the govt and compensating for their loss through attempts.. And the cycle continues..

    Man you know exactly how to play with words. Kudos
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  • Smart Man said:

    Right now about 2-3 lakhs out of 4-5 lakhs who appeared are hoping to clear Prelims..
    (some by virtue of performance B) , remaining by virtue of divine intervention o:) )

    Right now majority candidates are no-changers and against moving any petition.. In one word loyalists..
    The night of results brings a sea- change in their loyalties.. The heartly pain transforms the loyalty to frustration..

    Then suddenly the next day of results, they will become pro-changers and start raising your threads and calling you to petition for reforms from the govt and compensating for their loss through attempts.. And the cycle continues..

    =1
    One step,One Punch,One Round At a Time.
    How you do anything is how you do everything.

    PSIR Optional. Aspiring Diplomat.
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  • Fight for Justice- Massive Protests to take place in Delhi on 10th and 24th JULY 2017 :

    Civil Service Exam :

    The Government ought to work upon granting an additional attempt in 2018 in the upcoming Monsoon session

    The Civil Service Exam conducted by the UPSC has witnessed some sweeping changes in the recent past. The objective behind these might have been to align the pattern of the exam in accordance with the dynamic changes taking place in India and world over or to create a level playing field for all the candidates or to make the selection process more robust, transparent and fair. What the real reason has been, we simply do not know.

    Also, the rationale behind the current government’s policy to reduce the number of seats, when there is actually a huge need of candidates to fill up the relevant posts and the huge backlogs created over the years, is something only the people in the government can answer. Moreover, the logic behind drastically reducing the age limit of the candidates to be eligible for Civil Services is not clear.

    But one thing is certain. These policies and changes are wreaking havoc on the merit system and the objectivity of the selection process and thereby impacting in a huge way the Steel frame of India, turning it into a steel cage.

    Civil Service aspirants - The victims of whimsical persecutions

    The exam witnessed introduction of CSAT for the Prelims stage in 2011, which has been a matter of great contention and has been under constant criticism for its supposedly biased nature against the candidates belonging to the the arts, humanities and non-English backgrounds.

    The Transparency International’s “Corruption Perception Index” put India’s bureaucracy at the top when it came to corruption. Suddenly there was a realization that the candidates lacked Ethics, morality and the desired values. Hence, the Mains pattern was changed, which saw elimination of one optional and introduction of 4 papers of GS, out of which one was a new paper called “Ethics, Integrity and Aptitude”, as if this was enough to instills the desired values in the candidates and to ensure the selection of candidates with moral values.

    The limits of idiocy were crossed when the prelims exam of “Indian Forest Service”, whose nature is supposed to be different from the Indian Civil Service, was clubbed with the Civil Service Prelims. To account for this, undue importance was being given to Geography and Environment in the CS Prelims exam ( sometimes more than 30 questions were based on these subjects alone), creating an undue advantage for the candidates having those backgrounds or for those having geography as their optional subject. The succeeding years also witnessed unjustifiably low importance to Polity and Economics, which are traditionally considered to be very important. The current affairs did not get much importance back then.

    Because of campaigning by the CSAT affected students, CSAT was made qualifying. Out of the blue, it was again thought that the current pattern was not up to the mark and could not create a level playing field. More importance came to be given to current affairs to rectify the situation. The height was crossed in 2016, when the paper was full of current affairs, and lacked polity or economy related questions. Candidates who mugged up certain coaching institutes current affairs notes and who might have been poor with their concepts got through. While those with a balanced preparation of the traditional subjects and concepts as well as the current affairs suffered a lot. This exam saw the elimination of many serious candidates and qualifying of some of those who were not even targeting Union Civil Service Exam specifically and who had no idea as to how to go about in the Mains. This was much against the purported objective of the selectors of "eliminating the non serious candidates".

    Thereafter, there was a tacit realization of the tremendous stupidity that had been committed. So the year 2017 saw drastic reduction in current affairs questions and a really tough CSAT, much to the dismay of many. As with every time, a drastic, haphazard experimentation took its toll on many sincere and serious aspirants.

    A bunch of indecisive people trying to select good decision makers

    Thus, there have been sweeping changes almost every year since 2011. A ‘trial and error’ method employed by the selectors has caused tremendous damage to the objectivity of the selection process, compromised the quality of the candidates selected and failed to achieve the desired objectives. The prelims exam has been turned into a gamble and a huge “luck factor” has been introduced into it. This reflects the indecisiveness, lack of conviction and vision and shortsightedness of the selectors. It also reflects their insensitivity towards the future of the young candidates, who are indeed the future of this country.


    Additional attempts and age relaxation is the only way out

    The damage done to the prestige of the Civil Services and the selection process cannot be undone. However, the candidates whose future has suffered due to the irrational decisions and whims of the selectors from 2011 to 2015, ought to be given justice. An additional attempt and atleast two years relaxation in age for the 2018 exam for all who appeared from 2011 to 2017, is the bare minimum that should be done to recuperate for the losses of those who have invested the most productive time of their lives to pursue their dreams.

    The days ahead are going to witness mass campaigning by the aggrieved candidates. A major protest will be held on July 10th, 2017 at PM Official residence, 7 Lok Kalyan Marg at 1 pm. July 24th is going to witness an even bigger protest, which will rock the city of Delhi, the venue for which has yet to be disclosed. Aspirants from all corners of the country are mustering support and have planned to reach Delhi on the said dates to participate in the protests.

    The government should be pro active and take this rational decision and the UPSC should implement it at the earliest. The upcoming Monsoon session would indeed be the best time to work upon this. An objective process of selection should be gradually evolved. Stability should be imparted to the pattern of the exam. More transparency could be brought in the process and speedier result declaration could be done. It would indeed be unwise and a mockery of our democracy if students pay dearly for the indecisiveness of the selectors and inaction of the government.

    http://studymusicspirituality.site123.me/blog/civil-service-exam-a-case-for-more-number-of-attempts
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  • Smart Man said:

    Right now about 2-3 lakhs out of 4-5 lakhs who appeared are hoping to clear Prelims..
    (some by virtue of performance B) , remaining by virtue of divine intervention o:) )

    Right now majority candidates are no-changers and against moving any petition.. In one word loyalists..
    The night of results brings a sea- change in their loyalties.. The heartly pain transforms the loyalty to frustration..

    Then suddenly the next day of results, they will become pro-changers and start raising your threads and calling you to petition for reforms from the govt and compensating for their loss through attempts.. And the cycle continues..

    very true. entire country is living in some dream world it seems. nobody raising any voice over real things, even those affecting their lives directly
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  • edited July 3
    On one hand, there is dire need of IAS/IPS in many states yet vacancies are reducing by each passing year in the current regime.
    Why is nobody raising the voice in this direction?
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  • They will..... only before election......
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  • Modiji se milo wo kuch karenge but jaldi tym bahut kam hi
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  • Ol d best guyz hope Ur demands n dreamz becomes reality.: o:) :smiley: .life m 2014 m jub maine tayari start kara Tha to samajh na ata Tha ki kyon log dharrale se sal dar sal lagte Rahte zamane Bhar ki galayi Kha Kar.

    But,ab sub samaj aa gaya,upsc jaisa nasha Kuch nahi.aur jub koi niklelene ki koshish kara v to ya to duniya usse gazab powerless feel karati ya phir tabtak prelims aa jata :sunglasses:


    :: :wink: :
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  • edited July 4
    Aspirants from Telangana and AP who are interested to join the movement/protest in Delhi, please join the following Whatsapp group. We'll finalise our travel plans soon and discuss related aspects..
    https://chat.whatsapp.com/4EQJsYFqnjLB95FLSk0wG2
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  • this time it looks really promising..pls join in huge numbers!
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  • Yes ..its better organized this time ...and movements on change.org have been successful in past also to get their demands accepted.
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