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All the big talks of toppers and coachingwallas but real truth remains that in any case 99.9% of candidates WOULD NOT clear this examination. So you can guess the scenario of competition. We missed the good opportunities in life for this examination. Many new college graduates will take same path. Is it our duty to tell them harsh truth?? or let them dwell too, in fool's paradise?
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  • edited February 4
    ^^

    Every 4 minutes a road accident occurs in India and every 15 minutes a person dies in such an accident.
    This is the figure from official data. Recent research by IIT Delhi revealed that this data is grossly underestimated by a factor of 20. So, perhaps one accident occurs every 12 seconds!!

    Do we stop driving automobiles by knowing this 'harsh truth'? Should we?

    What we do is, we invest in road infrastructure and other ancillary factors related to roads and improve driving experience to reduce accidents.

    Similarly, telling this 'harsh truth' to aspirants and scaring/demoralizing them right at outset Isn't going to solve anything. What we need to do is reform the selection ecosystem by various reforms.

    I'll list out some reforms for you:
    - For starters, increase the age limit of UR category to 35 and unlimited attempts.
    - Providing benefit of reservation on ANY ONE stage of exam. If a person qualifies prelims in reserved category, she should be considered as reserved throughout. This has sanction of Supreme Court and is followed in all other recruitments in centre and states. But somehow UPSC misses out on it.
    - Merging various administrative exams under a single recruitment procedure so that those who couldn't perform on the D Day due to luck factor don't go out barehanded and slug out for another exam. They at least get something. We can easily merge SSC, APFC, LS/RS Assistant etc. exams with UPSC.

    Such, practical measures will be more helpful than scaring people off.
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  • JohnPaul said:

    All the big talks of toppers and coachingwallas but real truth remains that in any case 99.9% of candidates WOULD NOT clear this examination. So you can guess the scenario of competition. We missed the good opportunities in life for this examination. Many new college graduates will take same path. Is it our duty to tell them harsh truth?? or let them dwell too, in fool's paradise?

    Le yaar thodi positivity wali dose, ye rona dhona ladai jhagda forum pe thoda bad gaya hai, me balance karta hun :mrgreen:
    Nahi dekhi hai, to please watch the complete video
    Dekhi hai, to phir bhi watch again
    You will feel better :smiley:

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  • JohnPaul said:

    All the big talks of toppers and coachingwallas but real truth remains that in any case 99.9% of candidates WOULD NOT clear this examination. So you can guess the scenario of competition. We missed the good opportunities in life for this examination. Many new college graduates will take same path. Is it our duty to tell them harsh truth?? or let them dwell too, in fool's paradise?

    Two major reason for this sad state of affairs
    (1) status (Obsession) that our society have towards the government jobs. These jobs are highly glorified in many aspects of our society like guy with the government job always gets preference over guy in private sector while fixing the marriages even if guy with private jobs has better salary than government job guy.
    (2) It's a failure of the government not create enough and good private sector jobs for the youth. It's important to have large number of lucrative private sector jobs for the youth so that they don't waste time in preparation for the competitive exams.
    Preparing for competitive examination should be self motivated decision and not the compulsion born out of some external factors like lack of good jobs in private sector.
  • ^^

    Every 4 minutes a road accident occurs in India and every 15 minutes a person dies in such an accident.
    This is the figure from official data. Recent research by IIT Delhi revealed that this data is grossly underestimated by a factor of 20. So, perhaps one accident occurs every 12 seconds!!

    Do we stop driving automobiles by knowing this 'harsh truth'? Should we?

    What we do is, we invest in road infrastructure and other ancillary factors related to roads and improve driving experience to reduce accidents.

    Similarly, telling this 'harsh truth' to aspirants and scaring/demoralizing them right at outset Isn't going to solve anything. What we need to do is reform the selection ecosystem by various reforms.

    I'll list out some reforms for you:
    - For starters, increase the age limit of UR category to 35 and unlimited attempts.
    - Providing benefit of reservation on ANY ONE stage of exam. If a person qualifies prelims in reserved category, she should be considered as reserved throughout. This has sanction of Supreme Court and is followed in all other recruitments in centre and states. But somehow UPSC misses out on it.
    - Merging various administrative exams under a single recruitment procedure so that those who couldn't perform on the D Day due to luck factor don't go out barehanded and slug out for another exam. They at least get something. We can easily merge SSC, APFC, LS/RS Assistant etc. exams with UPSC.

    Such, practical measures will be more helpful than scaring people off.

    :+1: :+1:
    कभी किसी को मुकम्मल जहाँ नहीं मिलता..
    कहीं ज़मीं तो कहीं आसमां नहीं मिलता.....

  • ^^

    Every 4 minutes a road accident occurs in India and every 15 minutes a person dies in such an accident.
    This is the figure from official data. Recent research by IIT Delhi revealed that this data is grossly underestimated by a factor of 20. So, perhaps one accident occurs every 12 seconds!!

    Do we stop driving automobiles by knowing this 'harsh truth'? Should we?

    What we do is, we invest in road infrastructure and other ancillary factors related to roads and improve driving experience to reduce accidents.

    Similarly, telling this 'harsh truth' to aspirants and scaring/demoralizing them right at outset Isn't going to solve anything. What we need to do is reform the selection ecosystem by various reforms.

    I'll list out some reforms for you:
    - For starters, increase the age limit of UR category to 35 and unlimited attempts.
    - Providing benefit of reservation on ANY ONE stage of exam. If a person qualifies prelims in reserved category, she should be considered as reserved throughout. This has sanction of Supreme Court and is followed in all other recruitments in centre and states. But somehow UPSC misses out on it.
    - Merging various administrative exams under a single recruitment procedure so that those who couldn't perform on the D Day due to luck factor don't go out barehanded and slug out for another exam. They at least get something. We can easily merge SSC, APFC, LS/RS Assistant etc. exams with UPSC.

    Such, practical measures will be more helpful than scaring people off.

    +1

    Eloquently put. Completely agree.
  • edited February 4
    gt2015 said:


    Two major reason for this sad state of affairs
    (1) status (Obsession) that our society have towards the government jobs. These jobs are highly glorified in many aspects of our society like guy with the government job always gets preference over guy in private sector while fixing the marriages even if guy with private jobs has better salary than government job guy.
    (2) It's a failure of the government not create enough and good private sector jobs for the youth. It's important to have large number of lucrative private sector jobs for the youth so that they don't waste time in preparation for the competitive exams.
    Preparing for competitive examination should be self motivated decision and not the compulsion born out of some external factors like lack of good jobs in private sector.

    I wud slightly differ with you on point 1.

    It's there in all societies. Working for government is highly respected all over the world.

    Even in US, the torch-bearer of neo-liberalism, recruitment for FBI, IRS and State Department sees some of the finest talent from Ivy League slug it out. Most brilliant profs would prefer to work at Los Alamos or NASA rather than private universities. So, it's not only India.

    Rest of ur argument is on the point.
  • akkib89 said:


    Le yaar thodi positivity wali dose, ye rona dhona ladai jhagda forum pe thoda bad gaya hai, me balance karta hun :mrgreen:
    Nahi dekhi hai, to please watch the complete video
    Dekhi hai, to phir bhi watch again
    You will feel better :smiley:

    Kya, Akki bhai, Constitutional debates khatm ho gayi kya :mrgreen:

    This is a sign that ForumIAS is coming of age as a platform. It's good.
    Shuru me Facebook was just for social networking. Now, it has everything from fake news, breakups to political propaganda and activism for noble causes.
    Apnaa Forum bhi aspirant community ka Facebook ban raha hai. Rona, dhona, frustration nikaalna, gaali-galoch sab diversity hai o:)

    Bookmarked ur video in #gyan folder on YT. Will see it later surely. :blush:
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  • edited February 4

    gt2015 said:


    Two major reason for this sad state of affairs
    (1) status (Obsession) that our society have towards the government jobs. These jobs are highly glorified in many aspects of our society like guy with the government job always gets preference over guy in private sector while fixing the marriages even if guy with private jobs has better salary than government job guy.
    (2) It's a failure of the government not create enough and good private sector jobs for the youth. It's important to have large number of lucrative private sector jobs for the youth so that they don't waste time in preparation for the competitive exams.
    Preparing for competitive examination should be self motivated decision and not the compulsion born out of some external factors like lack of good jobs in private sector.

    I wud slightly differ with you on point 1.

    It's there in all societies. Working for government is highly respected all over the world.

    Even in US, the torch-bearer of neo-liberalism, recruitment for FBI, IRS and State Department sees some of the finest talent from Ivy League slug it out. Most brilliant profs would prefer to work at Los Alamos or NASA rather than private universities. So, it's not only India.

    Rest of ur argument is on the point.
    This logic is flawed. Los Alamos and nasa is akin to drdo and isro. These are scientific/technical jobs, hence people with such backgrounds would get attracted to these institutions irrespective of nationality. Also in the us, they have lateral entries into the government sector. The pvt sector is way more attractive in the US as compared to India specifically due to the feudal character of civil services still prevalent in india.

    Profs in the us are much better paid, and are way more respected compared to their Indian counterparts.
    An Ounce of Action Is Worth a Ton of Theory
  • *govt sector attractive in india and pvt sector in the us as in india, the feudal mindset is still prevalent and in the us, pvt sector is way more liberal and pays better.
    An Ounce of Action Is Worth a Ton of Theory
  • Height of Obsession with government jobs is when peon in government office is preferred over jobless engineer in marriage market and PhD student and post graduate students standing in que to fill out the form for the post of peon in government office. ( it's not a exaggeration but the reality )

  • This logic is flawed. Los Alamos and nasa is akin to drdo and isro. These are scientific/technical jobs, hence people with such backgrounds would get attracted to these institutions irrespective of nationality. Also in the us, they have lateral entries into the government sector. The pvt sector is way more attractive in the US as compared to India specifically due to the feudal character of civil services still prevalent in india.

    Profs in the us are much better paid, and are way more respected compared to their Indian counterparts.

    *govt sector attractive in india and pvt sector in the us as in india, the feudal mindset is still prevalent and in the us, pvt sector is way more liberal and pays better.

    Bhai your argument is based on perception. What I wrote is from experience.

    State jobs are highly respected all over the world. From Japan to US. In US talented profs prefer State assignments in NOAA, USDA, NASA, State department etc. in private universities profs get tenures of few years only which has to be renewed over and over again.
    And Afro-Americans in US almost invariably opt for State jobs only as the get reservation in govt. jobs.

    You are perhaps calling Indian setup as 'feudal' due to pressure of CSE prep. It's a natural psychological defence mechanism which is kicking in. This will change once you get in.

    But for paucity of time, I wish I could elaborate more exact points to you in this regard.
  • edited February 4
    gt2015 said:

    PhD student and post graduate students standing in que to fill out the form for the post of peon in government office. ( it's not a exaggeration but the reality )

    I completely agree with this example.
    I personally know IIT/NIT/NSIT graduates are working in SSC jobs.
  • gt2015 said:

    PhD student and post graduate students standing in que to fill out the form for the post of peon in government office. ( it's not a exaggeration but the reality )

    I completely agree with this example.
    I personally know IIT/NIT/NSIT graduates are working in SSC jobs.
    Hardly 1% bhi nahi honge imo :mrgreen:
    At least recent years ke passouts to nahin hi honge
    Aur kuch jo kar rahe honge unki ya to CGPA bhasad gayi hogi ya unhone conscious decision lee hogi taki kisi aur job ki preparation kar sakein B)
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  • Congress ke jamaane me private sector ki badi craze thi. Everybody wanted to be software engineer, MBA, work abroad etc.
    God is great.
  • akkib89 said:


    Le yaar thodi positivity wali dose, ye rona dhona ladai jhagda forum pe thoda bad gaya hai, me balance karta hun :mrgreen:
    Nahi dekhi hai, to please watch the complete video
    Dekhi hai, to phir bhi watch again
    You will feel better :smiley:

    Kya, Akki bhai, Constitutional debates khatm ho gayi kya :mrgreen:

    This is a sign that ForumIAS is coming of age as a platform. It's good.
    Shuru me Facebook was just for social networking. Now, it has everything from fake news, breakups to political propaganda and activism for noble causes.
    Apnaa Forum bhi aspirant community ka Facebook ban raha hai. Rona, dhona, frustration nikaalna, gaali-galoch sab diversity hai o:)

    Bookmarked ur video in #gyan folder on YT. Will see it later surely. :blush:
    Debates chal rahein hain sir, public domain se private domain me shift ho gayen hain bas :mrgreen:

    Haan, I agree to what you say, bas thoda personal ho jate hain aspirants, jawani ka josh hai sahi bhi hai....
    Overall badiya forum ubhar kar aaya hai ye IAS aspirants ke liye undoubtedly

    Bookmark kar lee! , hehe, chalo dekh hi lena yaar :#

    TC
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  • akkib89 said:


    Hardly 1% bhi nahi honge imo :mrgreen:
    At least recent years ke passouts to nahin hi honge
    Aur kuch jo kar rahe honge unki ya to CGPA bhasad gayi hogi ya unhone conscious decision lee hogi taki kisi aur job ki preparation kar sakein B)

    True.
  • gt2015 said:

    PhD student and post graduate students standing in que to fill out the form for the post of peon in government office. ( it's not a exaggeration but the reality )

    I completely agree with this example.
    I personally know IIT/NIT/NSIT graduates are working in SSC jobs.
    This is harsh reality of India
    God is great.
  • edited February 4
    JohnPaul said:

    Congress ke jamaane me private sector ki badi craze thi. Everybody wanted to be software engineer, MBA, work abroad etc.

    Dotcom crash ke baad jo pant utri na sab software engineeron ki kya batayoon, sab job khoja karte the India wapis aakar. Hahaha.
    Abroad to log isliye darte hain ki PR card ke liye ajkal shaddi - divorce ka khel khela ja rahen hai bahut wahan par....Haha...Kaun byahega apni beti ko NRI se (unless purani jaan pehchan na ho)...Hahaha
    Upar se Pay commission ne bhi hila diya hai sari Pvt companies ko.. Haha.
    #GovtJobIsTheBest
    Angoor milen na milen par hain to meethe hi, reservation wala khel bas destroy kar rha hai isko
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  • Everybody knows the truth. No body is so naive that he/she is unaware of the fact that the number of applicants is much larger than number of vacancies, as is the case with all exams. Everybody knows they might not get to see the light at the end of the tunnel but keep saying to themselves - let it not be me.

    This is for all of us who tried: Manzil to mil hi jayegi, Bhatak kar ke hi sahi. Gumrah to wo hain, Jo ghar se nikle hi nahin.
    2013-Failed Pre by 7 marks
    2014-Failed Pre by 1 marks
    2015-Failed Mains by 25 marks
    2016-Failed Pre
    2017-Final Battle
  • edited February 4
    akkib89 said:


    Dotcom crash ke baad jo pant utri na sab software engineeron ki kya batayoon, sab job khoja karte the India wapis aakar. Hahaha.
    Abroad to log isliye darte hain ki PR card ke liye ajkal shaddi - divorce ka khel khela ja rahen hai bahut wahan par....Haha...Kaun byahega apni beti ko NRI se (unless purani jaan pehchan na ho)...Hahaha
    Upar se Pay commission ne bhi hila diya hai sari Pvt companies ko.. Haha.
    #GovtJobIsTheBest
    Angoor milen na milen par hain to meethe hi, reservation wala khel bas destroy kar rha hai isko

    Aap to kaam ke bande ho yaar. IITian urself, if I'm not wrong. Am I ?

    Lagtaa hai maine galat bande par haath daal diya tha pehle din wo Constitutional legitimacy waale thread pe. :mrgreen:
    Shit...
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  • edited February 4
    JohnPaul said:

    gt2015 said:

    PhD student and post graduate students standing in que to fill out the form for the post of peon in government office. ( it's not a exaggeration but the reality )

    I completely agree with this example.
    I personally know IIT/NIT/NSIT graduates are working in SSC jobs.
    This is harsh reality of India
    Bhai, ye jo bahut saare IITian and NITians aapko dikhte hain na govt. job market me in me se majority reserved category waale hote hain.

    Humaare reserved category waale bhai log pataa nahi kyun apne ko itnaa devaluate karte hain. Top colleges se graduate hone ke baavjood sarkaar me chhoti moti job me chale jaate hain.
    SVNIT se graduate humaare ek Meena dost, iss waqt Railway me ticket kaat rahe hain :D
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  • JohnPaul said:

    gt2015 said:

    PhD student and post graduate students standing in que to fill out the form for the post of peon in government office. ( it's not a exaggeration but the reality )

    I completely agree with this example.
    I personally know IIT/NIT/NSIT graduates are working in SSC jobs.
    This is harsh reality of India
    Bhai, ye jo bahut saare IITian and NITians aapko dikhte hain na govt. job market me in me se majority reserved category waale hote hain.

    Humaare reserved category waale bhai log pataa nahi kyun apne ko itnaa devaluate karte hain. Top colleges se graduate hone ke baavjood sarkaar me chhoti moti job me chale jaate hain.
    SVNIT se graduate humaare ek Meena dost, iss waqt Railway me ticket kaat rahe hain :D
    IRTS?
  • ^^
    Arre nahi yaar, I mean literally ticket kaat rahe hain... :D
    Went in through RRB exam. TTE in West Zone.
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  • ^^
    Arre nahi yaar, I mean literally ticket kaat rahe hain... :D
    Went in through RRB exam. TTE in West Zone.

    Okk.
  • JohnPaul said:

    gt2015 said:

    PhD student and post graduate students standing in que to fill out the form for the post of peon in government office. ( it's not a exaggeration but the reality )

    I completely agree with this example.
    I personally know IIT/NIT/NSIT graduates are working in SSC jobs.
    This is harsh reality of India
    Bhai, ye jo bahut saare IITian and NITians aapko dikhte hain na govt. job market me in me se majority reserved category waale hote hain.

    Humaare reserved category waale bhai log pataa nahi kyun apne ko itnaa devaluate karte hain. Top colleges se graduate hone ke baavjood sarkaar me chhoti moti job me chale jaate hain.
    SVNIT se graduate humaare ek Meena dost, iss waqt Railway me ticket kaat rahe hain :D
    bhai india me sc st obc vale hi majority me hai ,population ka percentage dekhe to. Jobless growth h india ki 5% ho gayi h. Ab kisi ko private sector me job na mile to ghar pe bethega thode hi. isme devaluate karne ki baat kaha se aa gayi? jis meena bandhu ka aap example de rahe h ya to uska cgpi accha nahi hoga ya college se placement nahi mili hogi. aapne jo sarcasm use kiya h "railway me ticket kaat rahe h :D " kya prove karna chahte ho? na kate? berozgaar betha rahe ya ticket chodkar jeb kate?
    I see you.
  • hellboy24 said:

    JohnPaul said:

    gt2015 said:

    PhD student and post graduate students standing in que to fill out the form for the post of peon in government office. ( it's not a exaggeration but the reality )

    I completely agree with this example.
    I personally know IIT/NIT/NSIT graduates are working in SSC jobs.
    This is harsh reality of India
    Bhai, ye jo bahut saare IITian and NITians aapko dikhte hain na govt. job market me in me se majority reserved category waale hote hain.

    Humaare reserved category waale bhai log pataa nahi kyun apne ko itnaa devaluate karte hain. Top colleges se graduate hone ke baavjood sarkaar me chhoti moti job me chale jaate hain.
    SVNIT se graduate humaare ek Meena dost, iss waqt Railway me ticket kaat rahe hain :D
    bhai india me sc st obc vale hi majority me hai ,population ka percentage dekhe to. Jobless growth h india ki 5% ho gayi h. Ab kisi ko private sector me job na mile to ghar pe bethega thode hi. isme devaluate karne ki baat kaha se aa gayi? jis meena bandhu ka aap example de rahe h ya to uska cgpi accha nahi hoga ya college se placement nahi mili hogi. aapne jo sarcasm use kiya h "railway me ticket kaat rahe h :D " kya prove karna chahte ho? na kate? berozgaar betha rahe ya ticket chodkar jeb kate?
    Bhai, mera kataksh uski moorkhtaa ke upar hai.

    Pehli baat, 3 saal drop karke to NIT aaya tha. And final year me jab training and placement cell waale bulaate the to jaata nahi tha. Kehtaa, private job nahi karni. Bas jid hai. Literally, uski baato se aisaa lagtaa tha ki sarkaari naukri usko plate me rakh ke milegi.
    6.8 CGPA thi. 6.2 tak ko Infosys utha ke le gayi thi humaare batch me. Aaram se kisi bhi company me place ho saktaa tha wo.
    Bhai, ye SVNIT Surat ki baat hai. 100+% placement hai wahan. Koi berozgaar nahi nikaltaa. Ab koi dheeth ban jaaye to uskaa kuchh nhi kar sakte.
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  • hellboy24 said:

    JohnPaul said:

    gt2015 said:

    PhD student and post graduate students standing in que to fill out the form for the post of peon in government office. ( it's not a exaggeration but the reality )

    I completely agree with this example.
    I personally know IIT/NIT/NSIT graduates are working in SSC jobs.
    This is harsh reality of India
    Bhai, ye jo bahut saare IITian and NITians aapko dikhte hain na govt. job market me in me se majority reserved category waale hote hain.

    Humaare reserved category waale bhai log pataa nahi kyun apne ko itnaa devaluate karte hain. Top colleges se graduate hone ke baavjood sarkaar me chhoti moti job me chale jaate hain.
    SVNIT se graduate humaare ek Meena dost, iss waqt Railway me ticket kaat rahe hain :D
    bhai india me sc st obc vale hi majority me hai ,population ka percentage dekhe to. Jobless growth h india ki 5% ho gayi h. Ab kisi ko private sector me job na mile to ghar pe bethega thode hi. isme devaluate karne ki baat kaha se aa gayi? jis meena bandhu ka aap example de rahe h ya to uska cgpi accha nahi hoga ya college se placement nahi mili hogi. aapne jo sarcasm use kiya h "railway me ticket kaat rahe h :D " kya prove karna chahte ho? na kate? berozgaar betha rahe ya ticket chodkar jeb kate?
    Bhai itna personal hote ho be online forum pe. Mainkuch batein enumerate karta hoon-
    1. Obc ko mat include karo, unko utni dikkat nahi hoti hai placement me
    2. Top tier companies ki CGPA demand zyada hoti hai, usme bahot log nahi fit ho pate hain isliye offcampus ke liye try marte hain (personal ambition). (Of course unko placements me nahi gina jayega na)
    3. Kuch log phd karne chale jaate hain bahar, job ki koi fight nahi karte
    4. Dikkat SC STs ko zyada hoti hain. Mere time tak me jo PSUs recruit karne aati thin, unka quota hota tha, ab in PSUs me jinka nahi hota tha wo SC STs BPOs aur us type ki companies me jaate the
    5. Achchi job private me SC STs ko isliye nahi lagti thi kyunki interview thoda rigorous hota hai, aur most SC STs ka background sahi nahi hota tha, kuch rural se aaye hote the isliye placement ke first round me hi chat jaate the
    6. Is karan ek paatern sa ban gaya hai ki SC STs prefer public sector jobs + promotion me bhi koi locha nahi hai (meritrocracy to nahi chalti hai na wahan)
    7. Par kuch SC STs achche bhi the, unko na kabhi problem hui (Dina Tabi type background wale,par quota ka faiyda wo PSUs recruitment ke time me bhi uthate the - irony!)
    8. Branches pe bhi depend karta hai - Civil, Meta ka haal bura hai aajkal core branch hote hue bhi kyunki is segment kep private companies me attrition rate kam hai, nayi employment opportunities nahi generate ho rahi hai (simple logic - mining hi kar rahe ho, to kahan kahan khodoge, already India me max resource exploitation ho chuki hai - islyiye workforce exapnsion bahi ho raha)
    9. Jobless growth India me hi nahi, puri world economy me ho rahi hai (recession ke baad)
    10. India ke private companies ke entrepreneurs baniyagiri me vyast hain, unko work culture nahi banana, na hi yahan ki labour laws utne strict hain, sale jo bhi employment lene aata hai, unko pel dete hain. IMO work efficiency India me bahot hi kam hai, loyalty to gayi tel lene. TATA jaise company ko hata diya jaye to bc exploitation game hi chal raha hai

    PS-
    Mayur thoda crude bolta hai, maine usse pehle bhi boli hai ye baat
    UPSC ka aur IIT/NIT se koi relation nahi hai, kyunki yaha seetein kam hai, aptitude game nahi hai, aur adminitration is an entirely different ball game. Luck matters a lot in this exam, subjectivity aur relativity bahot hi zyada hai
    Maximum IITians aur NITian are not that serious about UPSC (hardly 10-15% hi honge - though ye number considerable hai - par maximum log private lifestyle ya PSU lifestyle me santusht hain, kaiyon ko MS aur PHDs me zyada interest rehta hai than cracking IAS, sabka apna apna funda hai bhai)
    Haan main ye manunga ki idhar thoda trend pakda hai IAS ki naukri main after recession par that will too subside jab market health sudhregi

    B)

    Over and Out
    Ting :mrgreen:
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  • akkib89 said:


    Mayur thoda crude bolta hai, maine usse pehle bhi boli hai ye baat

    First choice IPS hai. Abhi se practice kar raha hoon. B) :#
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  • edited February 4
    hellboy24 said:


    bhai india me sc st obc vale hi majority me hai ,population ka percentage dekhe to.

    Yaar, shayad aap reserved category waale ho isliye itnaa strongly feel kar rahe ho.
    Yaar, reserved population to hogi hi majority me. Har koi yahan backward jo ban na chahtaa hai. Govt. keeps adding 15-20 groups every year in reserved list. And people still keep agitating for more, more and more.

    Honestly, dil ki baat bolun to mai bhi backward ban na chahtaa hoon. God's honest truth.
    Thak gaya yaar, compete karte karte. Har level pe, har stage pe, har age me UR waalon ke liye cut-throat competition. Wiggle room bhi nahi milta.

    Pichhle saal yadi mai reserved category me hota to abhi yahan baith ke ye behes thodi hi naa kar raha hotaa. Keval UR cutoff se kam marks the mains me. 3 categories ki cutoff se upar tha.
    And ek baar IAS ban ne ke baad kisne dekhaa ki kaun kya hai.
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  • akkib89 said:


    Mayur thoda crude bolta hai, maine usse pehle bhi boli hai ye baat

    First choice IPS hai. Abhi se practice kar raha hoon. B) :#

    hellboy24 said:


    bhai india me sc st obc vale hi majority me hai ,population ka percentage dekhe to.

    Yaar, shayad aap reserved category waale ho isliye itnaa strongly feel kar rahe ho.
    Yaar, reserved population to hogi hi majority me. Har koi yahan backward jo ban na chahtaa hai. Govt. keeps adding 15-20 groups every year in reserved list. And people still keep agitating for more, more and more.

    Honestly, dil ki baat bolun to mai bhi backward ban na chahtaa hoon. God's honest truth.
    Thak gaya yaar, compete karte karte. Har level pe, har stage pe, har age me UR waalon ke liye cut-throat competition. Wiggle room bhi nahi milta.

    Pichhle saal yadi mai reserved category me hota to abhi yahan baith ke ye behes thodi hi naa kar raha hotaa. Keval UR cutoff se kam marks the mains me. 3 categories ki cutoff se upar tha.
    And ek baar IAS ban ne ke baad kisne dekhaa ki kaun kya hai.
    Hahaha, abe diplomat nahi banna kya, interview me itna outspoken rahoge be to sachchi me hadak na jayen wo log
    "Backward banana chahta hoon" - ajeeb hi laga ye sunkar, forward aane ke liye backward banana padta hai bc :mrgreen:
    Sharmindangi nahi mehsson hui bolkar ye :mrgreen:
    Ek acchi cheez bolta hoon, forum me sala bakr ho raha hai zyada, ab pakka try karoonga login na karoon, yaad rakhiyega, usi mahashay ki hain jinki lecture share kari thi -

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    Alvida, best of luck bhai, phod diyo bas ab bc.
    TC

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