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Is private bill a government bill?

We know that ther are 1. Public bills 2. Private bills. But are private bills,government bills ?

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  • edited April 2016
    saagar_14 said:

    We know that ther are 1. Public bills 2. Private bills. But are private bills,government bills ?

    No
    Government bills are those which are introduced in the parliament by any minister, be it home minister or food processing minister or any other.
    Public bills are also known as government bills, as they are introduced by a minister which represents the will of the people of the country. (CoM responsible to the Lok Sabha/house of the people, ie represents the people of the country and is committed to the welfare of the people of the country.)
    So in this context government bills are known as public bills.
  • Yes in my opinion. Public bills are for everyone in country while in private bills govt. passes laws for a specific group. for ex. bills for factory workers, new law for govt. employees etc.
    In both the cases, the bills are passed by govt.
  • edited April 2016
    No, private bills are not government bills. These are the points mentioned in Laksmikanth regarding private bills:


    1. It is introduced by any member of Parliament other than a minister.

    2. It reflects the stand of opposition party on public matter. (Public bill reflects of the policies of the government (ruling party)

    3. It has lesser chance to be approved by the Parliament than a public bill.

    4. Its rejection by the House has no implication on the parliamentary confidence in the government or its resignation. (A public bill's rejection by the House amounts to the expression of want of parliamentary confidence in the government and may lead to its resignation.)

    5. Its introduction in the House requires one month’s notice (Public bill's introduction requires seven days' notice).


    A recent example of a private member bill would Shashi Tharoor's bill to to decriminalise homosexuality and do away with Section 377.
    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-shashi-tharoor-s-private-bill-to-decriminalise-homosexuality-defeated-in-lok-sabha-2157209
  • saagar_14 said:

    We know that ther are 1. Public bills 2. Private bills. But are private bills,government bills ?

    No private bills can never by Govt Bills
    Govt Bills are only introduced by Ministers not even MPs of ruling party
    The Law of Detachment - be equanimous to both victories and defeats
  • There is a difference between private bills and private members' bills. All of you are talking about private members' bills.
  • edited April 2016
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    A Lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of the sheep.
  • Nice points. Thank You.
    Aarya said:



    2. It reflects the stand of opposition party on public matter. (Public bill reflects of the policies of the government (ruling party)

    But this may not necessarily be true. A member of the ruling party, but not a minister in the Government, can also introduce a bill, which will be a private bill as well.
    Manish Tewari introduced a Private bill in 2011 regarding regulation of intelligence agencies.
    So not always reflective of Opposition's view.
  • edited April 2016
    Private bill never heard of it.....private member bills aren't govt bills.

    I don't think private bill is mentioned in Indian constitution.
  • edited April 2016
    SanamJung said:

    Nice points. Thank You.

    Aarya said:



    2. It reflects the stand of opposition party on public matter. (Public bill reflects of the policies of the government (ruling party)

    But this may not necessarily be true. A member of the ruling party, but not a minister in the Government, can also introduce a bill, which will be a private bill as well.
    Manish Tewari introduced a Private bill in 2011 regarding regulation of intelligence agencies.
    So not always reflective of Oppositu

    U are right
  • Some news articles say transgenders bill as private member bill .some say it as private bill.
    May be both are same in Indian constitution or perhaps different!!!!.....any lawyer on forum should shed light on this.
  • @SanamJung

    According to the Handbook for Members of Lok Sabha:

    "A Bill can be introduced either by a Minister or by a Private member. In the former case it is known as a Government Bill and in the latter case it is known as a Private Member’s Bill."

    I stand corrected. (Any bill introduced by a non-minister is a private member's bill, whether the person is from ruling party or opposition)

    (The point I mentioned earlier was picked from Lakshmikanth itself).

    @lapizlazuli

    Yeah even I observed the same thing. Some articles mention it as private bill and others refer to it as private members' bill, so I guess it is one and the same thing.



  • Bills can be classified on two basis:

    1. On the basis of target audience:
    >> Public bills
    >> Private bills

    2. On the basis of who introduces it:
    >> Government Bills (introduced by MP)
    >> Private memebers' Bills

    Now, a private bill targets a specific group. It can be be introduced either by a member of parliament or by a person who is not a member of parliament. If introduced by MP, it would be a Govt. Bill.
    If introduced by Person other that MP, it would be a Private members' bill.

    Of the 300 odd Private Members’ Bills introduced in the 14th Lok Sabha, barely 4% were discussed; 96% lapsed without even a single debate in the House. Till date, Parliament has passed 15 Private Members’ Bills. Six of these were passed in 1956 alone and 47 years after passing ‘The Supreme Court (Enlargement of Criminal Appellate Jurisdiction) Bill, 1968’ that became an Act on 9 August 1970. Rajya Sabha has passed Rights of Transgender Persons Bill, 2014 on April 24, 2015, which is pending to be passed in Lok Sabha.

    copy pasted from wiki

    So the transgender persons bill is a private bill as well as private members' bill. So media can use any one of the terms.
  • edited May 2016
    Laxmikant is full of errors along with distinction between private and govt bills
    yes private by private and govt bills by ministers , but thats not a rule just names given

    eg even a private member can introduce money bill !! nowhere in constitution it is mentioned the distinction between private and govt/public bills ... so keep a watch dont blindly follow laxmikant
    lord giveth lord taketh away
  • codmw said:

    Laxmikant is full of errors along with distinction between private and govt bills
    yes private by private and govt bills by ministers , but thats not a rule just names given

    eg even a private member can introduce money bill !! nowhere in constitution it is mentioned the distinction between private and govt/public bills ... so keep a watch dont blindly follow laxmikant

    Blasphemy. Burn this guy says I...
    A Lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of the sheep.
  • codmw said:

    Laxmikant is full of errors along with distinction between private and govt bills
    yes private by private and govt bills by ministers , but thats not a rule just names given

    eg even a private member can introduce money bill !! nowhere in constitution it is mentioned the distinction between private and govt/public bills ... so keep a watch dont blindly follow laxmikant

    Blasphemy. Burn this guy says I...
    haha go ahead with ur laxmikant constitution ,god help u

    and plz give me a link from constitution mentioning the difference between private and govt bill

    lord giveth lord taketh away
  • codmw said:

    codmw said:

    Laxmikant is full of errors along with distinction between private and govt bills
    yes private by private and govt bills by ministers , but thats not a rule just names given

    eg even a private member can introduce money bill !! nowhere in constitution it is mentioned the distinction between private and govt/public bills ... so keep a watch dont blindly follow laxmikant

    Blasphemy. Burn this guy says I...
    haha go ahead with ur laxmikant constitution ,god help u

    and plz give me a link from constitution mentioning the difference between private and govt bill

    LS RS P&C rules.
    A Lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of the sheep.
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