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Why doesn't anybody tell us that UPSC CSE is pure lottery? Write to the Expert Committee.

It was my third attempt overall and second very-very-serious attempt. Geography optional.
I did everything by the book. Everything. Joined test series at Vajiram and Vision. Consistently scored among the top in both of them. Consistently scored highest marks in Essay mocks at Vision. Prayed regularly to God. Consistently gave 10+ hours everyday all the year round for last 2 years. Was very confident after giving the mains. But in the end couldn't even qualify Mains. After losing the first two attempts (both in mains), I thought I was wrong somewhere. After second attempt, I even left my govt. job to devote whole-heartedly to this preparation. Now, I'm 28, out-of-job and with no prospects of future.
But on the positive side, now I'm pretty damn sure of two things: (point wise)
> UPSC CSE is a PURE LOTTERY. After you cross a certain threshold, it is PURE LUCK.
> There is NO GOD. We've been fed lies, lies and more lies by our ancestors who devised GOD so as to keep the ambitions of the general populace in check. Before writing this post, to relieve myself....

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  • Ffirstly luck is certainly there and it plays a major role if u are from gen cat.remember only top 1300 from gen got selected this year so even if all ur paper went good still it does not guarantees selection because perception of examiners matters a lot particularly in ethics and essay.reserved cat candidates on the other hand get 50-60 marks concession so chances are that they would get selected even if they screw up one or even two of their papers.that why u see many selected candidate failing to clear mains exams while on other many candidates also clear mains either because of reservation or because they wrote good answers but at the same time did not got screwed up by their luck{examiner or upsc} in this case.
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  • I can understand your feeling.. Similar situation with same optional.. As it is said that history is written by victors.. Those who clear will never say that it's luck .. They will exaggerate their efforts.. And nobody listens to losers.. I'm saying thia because i know many close friends clearing exam without even completing the syllabus., no test series, nothing... I woula add that when two optionals were there people putting effort were getting selected but after the current gs trend and ethics it has become very subjective.. And i m happy that now you have come out of this illusion of god... I am an atheist ... It's only luck after a threshold.. I hope this time our luck remains at least neutral instead of going in negative side. :)
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  • And while you're at it, beat one of your parents, for having given birth to you.

    Fool, God is in the air you breathe. God is in your very body.
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  • Never make anything greater than your life. Take CSE only as an exam. If you clear good, otherwise think that India has lost one great servant :lol: and move on
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  • I did all except "Praying regularly to God"... I think this is the reason I failed.

    Will purchase mangaldeep today and start praying.. :(
    One day, perhaps, love may die of disuse, left to rust in wind and weather.
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  • Bro, God is eternal truth whether one acknowledges it or not. I have been writing CSE Mains since 5 years. This year was my best prepared attempt and still could not qualify despite giving 2 consecutive interviews (CSE 13 and 14). No matter what UPSC does in my life, it is not BIG enough to make even SMALL dent in my faith of God. So have patience and trust God. Some day miracle will happen.
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  • It was my third attempt overall and second very-very-serious attempt. Geography optional.
    I did everything by the book. Everything. Joined test series at Vajiram and Vision. Consistently scored among the top in both of them. Consistently scored highest marks in Essay mocks at Vision. Prayed regularly to God. Consistently gave 10+ hours everyday all the year round for last 2 years. Was very confident after giving the mains. But in the end couldn't even qualify Mains. After losing the first two attempts (both in mains), I thought I was wrong somewhere. After second attempt, I even left my govt. job to devote whole-heartedly to this preparation. Now, I'm 28, out-of-job and with no prospects of future.
    But on the positive side, now I'm pretty damn sure of two things: (point wise)
    > UPSC CSE is a PURE LOTTERY. After you cross a certain threshold, it is PURE LUCK.
    > There is NO GOD. We've been fed lies, lies and more lies by our ancestors who devised GOD so as to keep the ambitions of the general populace in check. Before writing this post, to relieve myself....

    [Mod note: Last two lines deleted due to provocative content]

    You are right about God. I am surprised it took you this long.

    Regarding other things, i also used to think about the luck aspect, and it is certainly there as the exam is just a matter of hours. But then i think about people like Chakresh Misra, who has consistently cleared mains 4 or 5 times, which makes me doubt my assertion.
    CSE 2015. Got in.

    CSE 2016. Hopefully, the hallowed All India Services.
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  • Why some candidates clearing the exam again and again if it is luck based exam.
    What we do in those 3 hrs matter the most.
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  • .
    Go through the CSM 2015 gs1,gs2,gs3 paper discussion threads on forum with question papers in your hand and see what people have written in exam and what was asked.

    U may also see the points written by selected candidates like @thewhitetiger,@tonystark...etc etc they have written exactly to the point whereas some of them who have not qualified have spread raita in paper.
    This exam isn't luck based as it seems to be.



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  • New comers are advised to stay away from this thread. :)
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  • edited February 2016

    i really hate writing on this forum, but for the sake of it, lets do it.

    Everybody today is blaming luck, GOD, stars and what not. Their loss is supreme and one's who've made it are LUCKY. God's chosen few and what not. Understand very clearly,
    1. UPSC invites no one, the exam is purely voluntary.
    2. You are their to prove to no one, if your name in the list is the only thing you look for Please eliminate yourself when you find your name in that list.
    3. Try finding joys in your passing and failing, stop being a sadist. Respect other people's hard work, their dare to take a different optional when you followed easy path. Reservations didn't start after you started preparing for exams. It is fine few people are lucky / deserving or whatever.
    4. If these failures are not able to teach you I am unsure anything would.

    People here are painting such a gloomy picture. They had a job a life whatever, remember this world will go on. you live for people you love, the day you find your name in the list you'll understand it means nothing. Your memories and effect you have over others is only thing you have.

    Regarding hard work and failure remember few minutes back someone might have received cancer tests positive, A mom might have lost her son to terrorists, and fire would have gutted some poor chaps life long savings. Are you really sure you failure results are bigger than that ??
    Even if I drag Bajrang Bali to your doorsteps and ask him why he did this to you and he then he presents 1000 more people more wronged than you then what ?? Are you sure that you are most unfairly treated of all the 15000.

    Reasons are inside. Life is a lottery. Only certainty is people you love and your efforts. It has been 10000 years since man has roamed this planet substitutes to almost everything have been manufactured except hard work and will.

    Find a job, wife, friend, bike ....... whatever gives you peace.
    GOD is busy managing world affairs and has his hands full with a lot of stuff. So he will pardon you beating his posters ;)

    Cheer up, bencho beer pee le sab theek ho jaega



    Well said
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  • i am a fresher and will give my first attempt probably next year and this post has yet again put me in dilemma whether it is advisable to prepare exclusively for this exam means without thinking about any backup as such for at least one year.....further seeing this post and many others i am again confused whether there is time tested strategy to at least cross the cut off in very first attempt
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  • माया का पर्दा हटाओ प्रभु दिखेंगे!
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  • mimansa said:

    i am a fresher and will give my first attempt probably next year and this post has yet again put me in dilemma whether it is advisable to prepare exclusively for this exam means without thinking about any backup as such for at least one year.....further seeing this post and many others i am again confused whether there is time tested strategy to at least cross the cut off in very first attempt

    1. Back up is a must
    2. there is no such strategy, let alone in the first attempt :)
    @salvationseeker
    ohhh....so i have to seriously consider about a good back up......being a mechanical engineer i have two options with me .......psus through GATE or state civil services of Bengal....the advantage of bengal civil services is that its notifiction appears each year unlike other states......so considering this what shoud be a good back plan for me...plz suggest......which service is good psu or state civil service since i can whole heartedly prepare for either of the two

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  • mimansa said:

    mimansa said:

    i am a fresher and will give my first attempt probably next year and this post has yet again put me in dilemma whether it is advisable to prepare exclusively for this exam means without thinking about any backup as such for at least one year.....further seeing this post and many others i am again confused whether there is time tested strategy to at least cross the cut off in very first attempt

    1. Back up is a must
    2. there is no such strategy, let alone in the first attempt :)
    @salvationseeker
    ohhh....so i have to seriously consider about a good back up......being a mechanical engineer i have two options with me .......psus through GATE or state civil services of Bengal....the advantage of bengal civil services is that its notifiction appears each year unlike other states......so considering this what shoud be a good back plan for me...plz suggest......which service is good psu or state civil service since i can whole heartedly prepare for either of the two

    The problem with PCS are:

    1. recruitment process is corruption, nepotism ridden
    2. there is no fixed exam, result schedule .

    So u cannot rely on PCS exam.

    PSU is a much better option, if u can get good GATE score.

    mimansa said:

    mimansa said:

    i am a fresher and will give my first attempt probably next year and this post has yet again put me in dilemma whether it is advisable to prepare exclusively for this exam means without thinking about any backup as such for at least one year.....further seeing this post and many others i am again confused whether there is time tested strategy to at least cross the cut off in very first attempt

    1. Back up is a must
    2. there is no such strategy, let alone in the first attempt :)
    @salvationseeker
    ohhh....so i have to seriously consider about a good back up......being a mechanical engineer i have two options with me .......psus through GATE or state civil services of Bengal....the advantage of bengal civil services is that its notifiction appears each year unlike other states......so considering this what shoud be a good back plan for me...plz suggest......which service is good psu or state civil service since i can whole heartedly prepare for either of the two

    The problem with PCS are:

    1. recruitment process is corruption, nepotism ridden
    2. there is no fixed exam, result schedule .

    So u cannot rely on PCS exam.

    PSU is a much better option, if u can get good GATE score.

    @salvationseeker
    thank you very much for your kind reply......one last question..... objectively which job is better one of the top post of state pcs or psu provided one is lucky enough to cross the hurdles like corruption nepotism of pcs

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  • This is my third interview with geography. My prep started from June 2012. Waiting for name to appear on main list . I was happy to see my name on reserve list since i thought it ll never appear. I am from gen category.

    I missed final ranks from very few marks. I blamed my luck like u did. But looking back i realise god if it exists has been kind to me. I went in both times with marks hovering around cut off. I got the chance to appear in interview and score pretty decent marks. This gave me energy for subsequent attempt.

    From what i have realised

    In a subject like geography which is the first choice of every fresher u need to be extremely good among the thousands

    Geography is not easy. If someone found it easy they r not studying properlyproperly. Its a bulky optional. Difficult to understand the interconnections. Vajiram or vision will not help u understand it. Only u can do it.

    There is nothing like incremental improvement in this exam. You do well and miss by few marks . next attempt u give all that u got. U may still not clear because there is lot of new water flowing in every year.

    Everyone who writes the exam or is serious enuf to persue thinks they are smart. But then there are smarter people. Accept

    What is common sense for IRA singhal is special knowledge to me. So we cant blame toppers who make the exam sound easy.

    Yes. Not everyone has the capability to clear the exam.we can only try. But that doesnt mean there are only 1000 intelligent souls.
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  • And I never went to vajiram and vision. But u had to compete with me. There are aspirants outside Delhi as well
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  • one of my friend actually has published a book for language of BA level.he failed in compulsory language paper of upsc.
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  • edited February 2016
    mevhravi said:

    one of my friend actually has published a book for language of BA level.he failed in compulsory language paper of upsc.

    Agar aisa ho skata hai to...UPSC main kuch b ho sakta hai....BIG PROBLEM
    solution...Ganja par ban lagao...log ganja pee k check karte hein paper..especially JNU waale...aur clerk to weed maar k entries marte hein....100 ke qo aur 130 k 13 bana dete hein..full pay lete hein..logon ka kaat dete hein... :/ yeh mera Madmax bhai b aise hi kisi ka shikaar ho gya hai....
    Bhagwan hote hein bhailog lekin wo kuch kar nahi sakte...... :D UPSC k maamle main...kyu ki agar aap ne pray kiya roz aap ka nahi hua to jiska hua ussne b pray kiya hoga....So GOD is THERE but He/She Doesn't CARE.. :)
    PS Main b fail hua hun mains main iss baar gaaliyan mat dena :/
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  • mevhravi said:

    one of my friend actually has published a book for language of BA level.he failed in compulsory language paper of upsc.

    Agar aisa ho skata hai to...UPSC main kuch b ho sakta hai....BIG PROBLEM
    solution...Ganja par ban lagao...log ganja pee k check karte hein paper..especially JNU waale...aur clerk to weed maar k entries marte hein....100 ke qo aur 130 k 13 bana dete hein..full pay lete hein..logon ka kaat dete hein... :/ yeh mera Madmax bhai b aise hi kisi ka shikaar ho gya hai....
    Bhagwan hote hein bhailog lekin wo kuch kar nahi sakte...... :D UPSC k maamle main...kyu ki agar aap ne pray kiya roz aap ka nahi hua to jiska hua ussne b pray kiya hoga....So GOD is THERE but He/She Doesn't CARE.. :)
    PS Main b fail hua hun mains main iss baar gaaliyan mat dena :/
    @Pagalmadmax ka re madmaxwa dusarka attempt ke liye tyari chalu kar diye ho ka
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